Childminder lives with rapist

[OneBluePoster]

I know a childminder who works from her house, and has her rapist son living with her. He isnt charged, but has admitted to multiple rapes and there is evidence of him admitting this. What do you even do with this information, is this a safety concern?

Why were you going through someone else’s phone? This just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

If he was in a private chat with another person, how did you see the images?

I'm unclear why you started this thread? You clearly don't want to do anything about it so why post and ask?

If you didn’t actually click on and look at the images on your phone, how do you know they were images of children?

You said in several different posts you came across them on his 'phone... saw them with your own eyes on his 'phone... but then said you accidentally saw them on his 'phone when asked how that happened?. And you confronted him about it? and so you thought he'd delete the pictures?

Now you're saying you didn't see his 'phone at all, you saw them in a chat with him and someone else and they showed you?

And he's not in your friendship group? just an acquaintance? and the CSAM was just in a chat between him and someone else that you know? so how did you confront him about it?

okay no you are grossly misunderstanding what i am saying. it was on HIS phone. nobody elses i saw it on HIS phone. he was on a chat, it was sent in the chat. the person he sent them to i do not know them they are not my friend i am not associated with them at all. again, he is not my friendship group. confronted in person immediately when i saw. i asked multiple people not just people i was friends with but outsiders as well. i got the same advice from everyone i asked. what you are not seeming to take away from this is that something IS being done now, and instead just hounding about the same things over and over again when most of it ive already answered

I'm struggling to believe that this thread is real.

If you truly believe that this man has committed multiple rapes and that he had photographs of underage girls on his phone, why on earth wouldn't you have notified the police immediately? Regardless of what you were "advised", you can't possibly have known what else he might have had on his phone anyway.

Instead you're fretting on MN about the "ethical dilemma" of whether or not to spread unsubstantiated "information" to the parents of his mother's mindees?

If you genuinely believe what you're saying on here, you have been horribly negligent imo.

as previous stated, i wasnt going through his phone

i did want to do something and have after reading through advise, if you read through the actual thread you would know this

Apparently he admitted it. Just as he confessed to multiple rapes. Both of which are apparently being ignored by numerous people

it wasnt on my phone it was on his phone, i saw the pictures in the chat he was on, it developed from there

This. What do you want?

Or are you bored on a bank holiday?

I think, for a start, we need to expel this from the process:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=51-hepLP8J4&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD

The behaviour of the victim, their clothing, their previous sexual behaviour is irrelevant. There should be no implied presumption that some women are “fair game” to rape because they are promiscuous when they choose to consent. If the victim says they didn’t consent, then they didn’t consent. It’s vanishingly rare for any woman to put themselves through the trauma and degradation and humiliation of reporting a rape if it isn’t true. The defendant needs to prove beyond reasonable doubt there was consent if the woman says there was not, and she certainly shouldn’t have her consent questioned based on her clothes/ previous sexual relationships etc. That’s completely irrelevant to whether she consented in this case.

We have a situation where an offender’s previous crimes of which they’ve been convicted aren’t allowed to be mentioned in court because it might “bias the jury” yet a woman who is the victim of a crime is intimidated out of giving evidence and cross-examined about completely unrelated private matters that have nothing to do with the crime in question when she has committed no crime herself.

Is it acceptable for someone to burgle you because you once left your front door unlocked? Or to fire you from one job because you weren’t very good at another job years ago? Why are victims interrogated in the case of rapes as though any previous life choices they have made have any bearing on whether at the point in time of the alleged crime they consented to sex or not? It’s pure misogyny and is the main reason that reporting and prosecutions are so low. It’s also why the crime is so prevalent, in my opinion, because men know that if they target vulnerable women then it’s effectively legalised because prosecution will be impossible.

So few cases are prosecuted largely because of the way victims are treated which is not the case for any other crime.

My story has not changed, i came across them on his phone, i accidentally saw them on his phone. it was not something he willingly showed me. i did see them on his phone, on a chat he was on. i never said someone else showed me. it was on his phone that i saw them. the chat was not with someone i know.

None of this makes sense, will my post even get to beposted or will the thread whoosh away

Assuming its still there

How did it come to be that you saw pictures on his phone, his own phone. Were you there when he was chatting with the other person and he showed you what he sent? And if so why did he show you these?

The rape confession, who did he confess to, when, why, in what circumstances, verbally to you? In a message to you? In a message to the victim?

unfortunately it is real. the rape was never my place to report, the pictures were and that was a mistake on my behalf because you are right i dont know what else he had on his phone they were probably more. at the time that didn’t go through my head, i was more concerned as to if i had enough evidence to make a claim like that which i thought i didnt. it is negligent on my behalf and i am attempting to fix that mistake, as for posting about it on here i wanted to hear peoples thoughts as to if this was something the parents would want to be aware of or how i should proceed with this information knowing that she didnt want to report it and therefore be wouldnt be charged (yes they can charge without a victim’s cooperation, but i will not report on her behalf when she has made it clear she doesnt want to)

In which case other people’s devices may also contain these images still, and can also be traced and have their devices confiscated and examined, and it may lead to prosecutions of many other paedophiles as well and finding more victims and safeguarding them and giving them support. Please make the report today and provide the police with all of the details that you have.

yes but he didnt show me i saw. then i confronted. he didnt show me these willingly it was most definitely an accident that i had seen them. and then verbally, and in messages, the messages being the evidence as verbally would just be his word against whoevers

Thank you for doing this. This is unequivocally the right thing to do.

yes i have stated this is being done, thank you

I think the gross misunderstanding is coming from this not making any sense.

You say you saw this on his phone and no one else’s. You saw it in a private chat.
Why did he show this to you?

not bored on a bank holiday, this would be a weird story to come up with out of boredom. i was looking for advice as to what should be done, i got given advice, i took it. its that simple guys

So you were clearly sitting/standing next to this man if you were close enough to see his phone. Was this before or after you found out about the multiple credible rape allegations?

So how did you accidentally see the images on his phone. And what did he say when you mentioned it

You say messages, are you referring then to the confession, who were the messages to and what did they say? How did you see the messages if they were to someone else?

I don't think a rape conviction against an adult would mean his CM mother couldn't have him living there anyway?