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Stuckinasitiation · 03/08/2025 09:21

Please help me decide what to do:

I have an elderly mother aged 88. She lives alone and so far has managed reasonably OK with some support from me. I live in the same town as her, having moved back 8 years ago . Previously I lived hundred of miles away and rarely saw her. I have never had a good relationship with her, but when I moved back I tried to untangle a lot of administrative stuff that was in a real mess. I have helped her with all sorts of issues. However our relationship has got worse and worse. Recently she was really spiteful and nasty to my OH who wants nothing more to do with her. I have tried to see her as little as possible but just do essential tasks because I don’t enjoy spending time with her.

She had a very full life with religious friends and activities . Her religion is her reason for living and she’s always put it before everything else. I don’t know her friends and find her conversation depressing and alienating because I don’t share her views.

I have two siblings who don’t do much. One lives 20 miles away but he only visits when he wants something or it suits his agenda. He loves her but she has now alienated him too by accusing him of stealing. So he no longer visits and she doesn’t have a good word to say about him. My sister lives at the other end of the country and visits once or twice a year for a holiday. Most of the time she is here she is out and about and finds more than three days with my mother intolerable.

My mother’s health has started to really fail. She’s had several falls and has recently decided to give up driving because she really isn’t safe. Losing her car has been a real blow and she’s sunk into a depressive state. She is now dependent on her friends for lifts or has to use public transport, both of which she hates. She seems increasingly confused and miserable , and has had several falls lately.

To get to the point, I have wanted for some time to live closer to my grandchildren and two of my children. Travelling to see them takes hours and is expensive as we can’t stay with them. I haven’t settled back here and now find myself very isolated with no friends. I feel very lonely and unhappy here. The issue is that every time I mention this to my mother she becomes agitated and upset. Even though I barely see her, she wants me here in case something happens to her. I know my brother won’t step up .

My sister has decided she wants to move my mother in with her. She gets on much better with my mother but very rarely sees her and hasn’t been at the sharp end of my mother’s increasingly erratic and nasty behaviour. She has a very full life but seems to imagine my mother will sit quietly in the garden or stay on her room. I am worried too quite frankly that she will use my mother’s money to feather her own nest. Perhaps that is unkind, but my mother already does a lot for her financially.

Having visited yesterday, I am shocked at how frail my mother seems, how lonely and scared she is. Again, she became distressed when she asked if I am still planning on leaving. I spoke to a friend in a similar situation, she was horrified that I would consider leaving my mother and asked me what the doctor would think! I don’t know even know the doctor!

I am immobilised by indecision and guilt. Should I stay until she dies? Accept my mother moving in with my sister? The latter will involve a lot of legal work and hassle, changing her will, selling her property and much more. I dread it as I know it will all fall to me.

Should I stay or should I go?

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Ferrissia3 · 06/08/2025 02:03

Stuckinasitiation · 05/08/2025 23:25

I’m not going to do anything if my mother moves in with my sister. I will try to monitor her bank accounts but that’s all. My sister no doubt believes I will do all sorts to support her but I won’t. It’s on her .

I get it - its your way or the highway. The former isn't going to happen (and you've tried very hard) so embrace the latter, clearly communicate your boundaries, and go enjoy your life OP - you deserve it.

Stuckinasitiation · 06/08/2025 08:04

Ferrissia3 · 06/08/2025 02:03

I get it - its your way or the highway. The former isn't going to happen (and you've tried very hard) so embrace the latter, clearly communicate your boundaries, and go enjoy your life OP - you deserve it.

Well… I don’t quite think that. It’s just I think the whole thing needs to be properly discussed and thought through. All of us. Instead my sister has decided that moving my mother down to her is the best thing without considering any other option or talking it through. She hasn’t even got the house or seen what it’s like!!

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rookiemere · 06/08/2025 08:14

Do you think your Dsis will actually go ahead with it though?
Sounds like she would need your DM to sell her house for funds before they could afford the bigger property. She probably hasn’t even discussed it with her DH. I would say it’s highly unlikely that this plan makes it to fruition. I would try and step back from commenting negatively, just go “Gosh sounds like a lot of work for you Dsis. Good luck with it all”.

Stuckinasitiation · 06/08/2025 09:04

No she isn’t buying the property. It’s a tied house provided by her husbands job. My mother’s property will be sold and funds held by the solicitors until her death. This plan is dependent on her getting the bigger house through her husbands job.

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thepariscrimefiles · 06/08/2025 10:20

Stuckinasitiation · 06/08/2025 09:04

No she isn’t buying the property. It’s a tied house provided by her husbands job. My mother’s property will be sold and funds held by the solicitors until her death. This plan is dependent on her getting the bigger house through her husbands job.

I would just leave them to it, but I can see why you are concerned. If the house is tied to your sister's husband's job, if your sister split from her husband, both she and your mum would be homeless. It does sound quite risky.

However, if your sister is determined to do this and your mother is happy to move in with her, you should sell up and move nearer to your adult children. They are your priority now.

emjam67 · 07/08/2025 13:22

MysterOfwomanY · 03/08/2025 17:38

Well, who do you enjoy spending time with?

Sounds like your Mum doesn't enjoy spending time with you since you say she's horrid to you, so this all seems straightforward.

Go live near people you do have a good relationship with. Let everyone else sort out what they want for themselves - including your Mum and siblings.
I take it that it wouldn't be the end of the world if you didn't inherit - these things are never guaranteed anyway.

If your Mum gives you stick, say you're following her fabulous example, and you want to support your kid & grandkids as wonderfully as she supported you, (and try to keep a straight face). There might be a pause, at least...!

Love the last comment on here! I have an elderly mother who has dementia (but are you sure, Emjam67? The doctor might have made a mistake reading the brain scan!!). She is controlling and narcissistic but I have been saying for the last couple of years that maybe she should move closer to me. Now it is too late and she is expecting one of us ( I have 3 sisters) to ask her to move in with them. NOT HAPPENING! Unfortunately due to FOG, it is hard to walk away. But for your own sanity, you need to. I'm lucky that I get on with my sisters and we all share the visits. But there will come a time that she will need carers to be able to be independent in her own home or go into a care home and I will let this happen with no guilt. You're lucky your mum has a social life - mine stays at home asleep most of the day and may go out for a walk around the village three or four times a week.

Bluddyellfire · 10/08/2025 19:58

Stuckinasitiation · 03/08/2025 11:58

She has been for two visits but says my mother seems sprightly and fine. I see a different side. She tends to go out a lot anyway so doesn’t spend that much time with my mother. Also my mother puts on a good front when she is there. I see the depressed, not coping side and the mood swings.

I get this with my brother. My mum puts it all on me, he never sees/ hears it. I'm exhausted, he doesn't know what I'm on about. She's started pitching us one against the other a couple of times lately as well. A recent scroll through my own WhatsApp chat with her has been a revelation to him. Get her a care package and go spend time with your grandchildren.

Crikeyalmighty · 11/08/2025 11:04

I don’t think your sister is doing this from the good of her heart - I have a gut feeling that she’s got her eye on your mums cash and a bigger house with an annexe etc .now to be honest, if you can get over that mentally I would just say you are moving anyway - discuss sheltered again and the benefits ( church and friends etc) and if your mother prefers the sound of going to daughters leave them to it and forget about the cash - your sister is going to earn every penny!!!

TorroFerney · 11/08/2025 12:33

Stuckinasitiation · 04/08/2025 05:27

We do have joint POA at the moment but I don’t know if that will still be legal in England.
I often get to the point where I just want to walk away from it all. I mostly manage my mother’s finances but my sister doesn’t like it at all. I keep an eye on interest rates etc. It causes issues and a lot of stress. My sister and I don’t have a trusting relationship and that doesn’t help the whole situation. I would love to drop the rope entirely and just walk away to be honest, but I can’t bear thinking about the fall out in terms of the mess my sister would make of everything . She thinks I’m controlling .

You are making yourself very miserable/martyring yourself to avoid "thoughts" yours and your sisters. Thoughts aren't true they are thoughts, you can't control what your sister thinks. The thoughts can hurt you in your stomach but that wears off after a bit and will be replaced by thoughts of relief that you are out of the whole mess.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 11/08/2025 12:57

Stuckinasitiation · 05/08/2025 23:25

I’m not going to do anything if my mother moves in with my sister. I will try to monitor her bank accounts but that’s all. My sister no doubt believes I will do all sorts to support her but I won’t. It’s on her .

I’m not going to do anything if my mother moves in with my sister.

Great. That is a good decision if you can stick to it.

What about if you mother does not move in with your sister? They could spend months, years even, faffing about with discussions and plans that come to nothing, all the time trying to rope you into the drama in some way, and expecting you to always be on hand to do the work.

Are you going to move to be near your grandchildren ASAP, regardless of what your sister or your mother does or does not do or say?

Stuckinasitiation · 11/08/2025 13:53

EuclidianGeometryFan · 11/08/2025 12:57

I’m not going to do anything if my mother moves in with my sister.

Great. That is a good decision if you can stick to it.

What about if you mother does not move in with your sister? They could spend months, years even, faffing about with discussions and plans that come to nothing, all the time trying to rope you into the drama in some way, and expecting you to always be on hand to do the work.

Are you going to move to be near your grandchildren ASAP, regardless of what your sister or your mother does or does not do or say?

Yes I am. I am currently embroiled in a whole drama about her car. She finally decided to give up driving after one accident too many. I came and took the car away. It'\s causing huge stress as there is loads of damage on it that needs to be fixed before it can be sold. My sister has been talking to my mother behind my back telling her what I should be paying for it etc. I'm already wishing I had never got involved. Everything I try to do for her back fires and leads to massive stress. I am just sick and tired of it. My mother's first words to me were 'you've told your sister she can't have the car'. I did nothing of the sort. So has my sister told her this, or is it the usual playing off the Golden child against the Black Sheep?

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Bluddyellfire · 11/08/2025 13:57

Stuckinasitiation · 11/08/2025 13:53

Yes I am. I am currently embroiled in a whole drama about her car. She finally decided to give up driving after one accident too many. I came and took the car away. It'\s causing huge stress as there is loads of damage on it that needs to be fixed before it can be sold. My sister has been talking to my mother behind my back telling her what I should be paying for it etc. I'm already wishing I had never got involved. Everything I try to do for her back fires and leads to massive stress. I am just sick and tired of it. My mother's first words to me were 'you've told your sister she can't have the car'. I did nothing of the sort. So has my sister told her this, or is it the usual playing off the Golden child against the Black Sheep?

Tell your sister to come and get the car by [date] if she wants it otherwise it's going for scrap? And send it to scrap if she does nothing?

Stuckinasitiation · 11/08/2025 13:57

Bluddyellfire · 11/08/2025 13:57

Tell your sister to come and get the car by [date] if she wants it otherwise it's going for scrap? And send it to scrap if she does nothing?

She’s never said she wants it that’s the thing! I am left with all the hassle and expense and no thanks.. as usual.

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Bluddyellfire · 11/08/2025 14:01

Stuckinasitiation · 11/08/2025 13:57

She’s never said she wants it that’s the thing! I am left with all the hassle and expense and no thanks.. as usual.

So if nobody wants it, tell your mother she'll have to send it to scrap, or ask her if she wants you to send it to scrap. If she says no she doesn't want you to scrap it and that she wants [sis to have it/ something else], shrug, accept her decision, walk away, let your sis get involved if she wants to, and get yourself on Rightmove 😁 I don't see you BEING LEFT with the hassle here, I see you TAKING IT ON.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 11/08/2025 14:01

I came and took the car away. It's causing huge stress as there is loads of damage on it that needs to be fixed before it can be sold.

There you go again.
Go and put her car back on her drive. Or on DS drive if DM doesn't have a drive. Then wash your hands of it.
If neither of them have a drive, phone up a scrap dealer to take the damn thing away. Or just park it on the road outside DM house and let her get fined when the tax and MOT expire.
It is not your problem.
You do NOT have to get all stressed about fixing it before selling it.

Can you see what you are doing to yourself?
No one is "making" you do all this stuff and getting yourself stressed.

WearyAuldWumman · 11/08/2025 14:05

Stuckinasitiation · 11/08/2025 13:53

Yes I am. I am currently embroiled in a whole drama about her car. She finally decided to give up driving after one accident too many. I came and took the car away. It'\s causing huge stress as there is loads of damage on it that needs to be fixed before it can be sold. My sister has been talking to my mother behind my back telling her what I should be paying for it etc. I'm already wishing I had never got involved. Everything I try to do for her back fires and leads to massive stress. I am just sick and tired of it. My mother's first words to me were 'you've told your sister she can't have the car'. I did nothing of the sort. So has my sister told her this, or is it the usual playing off the Golden child against the Black Sheep?

I'd be very tempted to give your sister the car keys and to tell her to get on with it.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 11/08/2025 14:06

So has my sister told her this, or is it the usual playing off the Golden child against the Black Sheep?

Whatever. It doesn't matter.
You have to get to a place of accepting the way things are - you can't change the way they relate to you or treat you. You can't change the way they relate to each other and treat each other.
You can't change it.
So stop engaging and walk away (i.e. hang up the phone or delete the text etc.)

Perhaps you could look up the "grey rock" technique.

Stuckinasitiation · 11/08/2025 14:12

EuclidianGeometryFan · 11/08/2025 14:06

So has my sister told her this, or is it the usual playing off the Golden child against the Black Sheep?

Whatever. It doesn't matter.
You have to get to a place of accepting the way things are - you can't change the way they relate to you or treat you. You can't change the way they relate to each other and treat each other.
You can't change it.
So stop engaging and walk away (i.e. hang up the phone or delete the text etc.)

Perhaps you could look up the "grey rock" technique.

Yes, you are right. I keep getting sucked into feeling aggrieved, upset, insulted etc. It has to end.

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Beachtastic · 11/08/2025 14:17

I tend to step in and sort things out because I know no one else will. Guess what, they just think I'm interfering! 😀 so I try not to any more, even if I know it will all end in tears...

Helen483 · 11/08/2025 14:36

EuclidianGeometryFan · 11/08/2025 14:01

I came and took the car away. It's causing huge stress as there is loads of damage on it that needs to be fixed before it can be sold.

There you go again.
Go and put her car back on her drive. Or on DS drive if DM doesn't have a drive. Then wash your hands of it.
If neither of them have a drive, phone up a scrap dealer to take the damn thing away. Or just park it on the road outside DM house and let her get fined when the tax and MOT expire.
It is not your problem.
You do NOT have to get all stressed about fixing it before selling it.

Can you see what you are doing to yourself?
No one is "making" you do all this stuff and getting yourself stressed.

This.

You are CHOOSING to take control when you don't need to.
If it causes you hassle, expense and stress then stop doing it!
We give you permission to just leave them to it 😃

JANetChick · 11/08/2025 17:52

Honestly OP, give yourself permission to step away from all this drama. Don’t be involved in it.

Stuckinasitiation · 11/08/2025 19:26

Helen483 · 11/08/2025 14:36

This.

You are CHOOSING to take control when you don't need to.
If it causes you hassle, expense and stress then stop doing it!
We give you permission to just leave them to it 😃

Thank you!

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1NeedPampering · 11/08/2025 19:34

Has she had a medical checkup - it sounds like she may have early signs of dementia starting or possibly Lewy Body dementia (often sufferers feel persecuted and blame family /friends for doing something nasty or talking behind their backs.

Stuckinasitiation · 11/08/2025 19:38

1NeedPampering · 11/08/2025 19:34

Has she had a medical checkup - it sounds like she may have early signs of dementia starting or possibly Lewy Body dementia (often sufferers feel persecuted and blame family /friends for doing something nasty or talking behind their backs.

I have suggested she go to the doctor as she herself admits her memory is failing . She just brushes me aside. I haven’t got the energy any longer to push for things or take them on.

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Stuckinasitiation · 11/08/2025 19:38

Beachtastic · 11/08/2025 14:17

I tend to step in and sort things out because I know no one else will. Guess what, they just think I'm interfering! 😀 so I try not to any more, even if I know it will all end in tears...

Yes this is absolutely how I feel too.

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