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Elderly parents

Cockroach cafe Summer 2025

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BestIsWest · 23/06/2025 08:03

Welcome in to the Cockroach Café Bad Daughters’ Room, the rugs and cushions all fresh and clean for the new season.
Good daughters, find your way to the small room behind the stairs. Sorry it’s not as equipped as here, but it doesn’t get much use.
Come in when you want to share good news, or to rant, or just to hang out with others who understand what you're going through. The way MN works, hopefully this thread won’t appear in any featured lists, and the only people wandering in will be those who understand what it’s all about.
If you have a BIG question, it might be worth giving it its own thread, so as not to swamp this one.
For newbies: why cockroach? Previous long term resident of "Elderly Parents" Yolo's DM attended a 'small animal event' in a nursing home, and was presented with a "small animal with a hard back" the name of which species she couldn't remember. Her ever helpful DB suggested cockroach, and it has become a toast on here. My recent enquiries suggested more people wanted to keep the well known name than wanted to change it to something more savoury, so for the moment it stays.

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northender · 23/06/2025 17:30

I've posted on these threads a couple of times before but need to fully commit now.
Mum & dad's decline continues. Dad's is physical & cognitive (memory and processing), mums both too but just memory in the cognitive decline. PoA is in place but not acted on yet. I'm an only child so doing it all with support from DH and DC and mum's sister. They live remote rural. House is on the market but complicated to sell. They really need supported living but will not accept that yet.
Although PoA isn't actioned yet, I'm main contact for everything so now I'm on holiday & still fielding GP and estate agent calls.
The situation is complicated by the fact that mum & I have lived with dad & his temper and controlling behaviour for a long time but this results in mum not wanting to do anything for him which I understand. However I feel I need to support him as it indirectly protects her.
So in summary feeling overwhelmed and dealing with health problems of my own & juggling a challenging new job. A place to let off steam to people who get it is much needed 😊

Whoooo · 23/06/2025 18:21

Mum did move to a flat between the covid lockdowns - I did everything, all she had to do was sign some papers. It was incredibly stressful.
We activated the financial poa last year as she has a dx of MCI and she was worried.
The main issues atm are her weight (6 stone) and her pain levels
She's now on tramadol but can only have half the usual dose die to her low bmi

Mumbles12 · 23/06/2025 19:27

@Morenicecardigans I think that the being a bit short was totally justified!

MotherOfCatBoy · 23/06/2025 20:50

Solidarité 🍷to all who have occasionally lost their temper! I rarely snap, I like to think I have more grace than I did when I was younger (when my DM and I would go at it hammer and tongs), but sometimes it is just too much and out it comes. I think sometimes you just have to release the pressure valve others we wouldn’t be human, we’d be saints. Anyone else feel as if they are allowed to moan and groan and demand all day but we are expected to be perfect servants?

Morenicecardigans · 23/06/2025 21:42

Yep perfect servants sums it up.

Morenicecardigans · 23/06/2025 22:02

Just some positive things to add. DH went to see FIL in the care home this afternoon and showed him some photos of the wedding. Despite having fairly advanced dementia FIL absolutely loved seeing the photos and said DD2 looked absolutely beautiful.

My parents (they're 82 and 85) came to the wedding and were still on the dance floor at 1am having a great time. They were thrilled at seeing their newest great granddaughter for the first time too. I feel very lucky that we don't have issues with both sets of parents.

Choconuttolata · 23/06/2025 22:08

Aww that is lovely @Morenicecardigans I am glad the wedding went well and your parents had a great time. Really nice that your FIL enjoyed looking at the photos.

PermanentTemporary · 24/06/2025 04:17

Thank you @BestIsWest and hello all. @Dormit that sounds impossible. It really sounds as if your mum needs care callls for medication more than anything. She clearly isn’t managing and these are major drugs.

BestIsWest · 24/06/2025 12:41

Wish me luck, I have Social services coming out this afternoon to discuss Mum’s care plan. They’re supplying the carers atm but going forward it will be outsourced to one of the private companies.

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Dormit · 24/06/2025 13:13

Thank you everyone. She was actually better than she seemed on the phone when I saw her yesterday. I can’t be doing with the breathless I can’t manage stuff. I’ve told her she needs to help me to help her. I’m currently on the bus with £100 of M&S ready meals and easy to make/eat stuff that should keep her going for a while. I’ve told her she is not to put anything in the freezer unless it’s use by that day and she’s not going to use it. I usually write on in sharpie but she still eats things out of order. I threw about £40 of stuff away yesterday that she’d frozen but not used n the time it said. She’s messaged to say she feels sick but she had tablets for that-she just doesn’t think to take them 😩
Good luck to us all!

Dormit · 24/06/2025 13:15

oh and yesterday I drew up the morphine and antacids for her for the next 48 hours and clearly labelled them so there’s no excuse for her not taking them.

BishyBarnyBee · 24/06/2025 19:56

Thanks BestisWest, love what you've done with the place!

Just checking in and placemarking. This thread was a lifeline to me in the early stages of dementia for both FIL in 2022 and MIL last year. MIL was diagnosed with terminal cancer before getting a formal dementia diagnosis and that actually made everything easier to manage. She was clear she didn't want treatment but was much more able to accept help for the cancer than for her memory issues.

She died last month, peacefully at the end, though the confusion and frustration as she became weaker was very distressing. She was in a lovely nursing home and was very well looked after. For both MIL and FIL, the family were very clear that death was a welcome release from their confusion and suffering (both had multiple health issues and were in considerable pain quite apart from the memory issues), but the loss is still hard to take and their children (and me to be honest) have had a tough few years of it.

Just my own mum alive now, doing great but starting to slow down in her mid eighties. Hoping for a bit of a break from the constant juggling and panicky motorway dashes for a while.

Love to to those of you still in the thick of it, it really is so tough but this is a great place for support, advice and, crucially, help setting boundaries and deciding what we can and cannot expect of ourselves.

EmeraldRoulette · 24/06/2025 20:00

I nearly Posted on the old thread to start a new thread, which I was really hoping to give a different name.

Especially as I've recently encountered about 20 of the buggers (cockroaches I mean). I'm not particularly nervous around insects but encountering that many out of the blue was a bit unnerving.

Oh well, I am not here that much anyway so it doesn't matter! I tried to reject this thread title several times in the past, not least because it makes it very difficult to find for people who actually need help. Nobody knows what the hell it is. (And yes, I do know the story behind the title).

BestIsWest · 24/06/2025 20:11

Feel free to start the next one @EmeraldRoulette. We were on 998 posts at the time so I just copied and pasted from the last one.

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BestIsWest · 24/06/2025 20:12

@BishyBarnyBee sorry for your loss. Hope you get some well desrved rest.

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Isitsticky · 25/06/2025 12:52

We had quite a debate about the name of the thread a while ago. Most were in favour of keeping the name. The name reflects the fact that the discussion can get dark. We vent and say things we can't say elsewhere, even on the Elderly Parents board. A few of us us have been torn to shreds for starting threads in EP talking about how difficult and demanding our parents can be and (God forbid) our resentment. We don't get that in the Cockroach Cafe.

Hedonism · 25/06/2025 15:24

Hi. I've been lurking for a while but feel it's time to throw my hat in the ring.

My stepdad has advanced dementia and has just been moved to end of life care at his nursing home. I don't really know what timeframes we are looking at - my DM seems to think it could be days, but I know from reading the threads on this board that it can be much longer.

My DD is in y6 and right in the middle of leaving primary school - it seems to take half a term, there are a lot of (lovely!) events and traditions at her school, and I am now selfishly hoping he hangs on until all of that is done as I don't know if I can cope with both at once (well if it comes to it then I'll have to, of course). And then feeling guilty for feeling like that! But I'm hoping you lot might understand? I'm playing out lots of scenarios in my head but all I can really do is wait and support my DM. Sandwich generation, eh.

Lightuptheroom · 25/06/2025 15:57

Unfortunately end of life is what it is, my dad has been end of life for 9 weeks now. Take care of yourself xx

KatharineClimpson · 25/06/2025 16:08

Hi I'd like to join you all. Up until February of this year I was managing looking after my Mum who's 95, it wasn't easy but we muddled on through. I did her shopping, paid her bills, organised a cleaner, took her out two days a week, was always on the end of the phone when needed, and she pottered about in her home and garden between outings, helped by the fact that she had a slightly younger neighbour ( a mere 90 year old!) who had a son/partner who was always willing to help Mum as well.

I'm wordy by the way so do skip as much as you want of this. In February this year Mum fell and fractured her hip, she had a partial hip replacement and came home mid March for a week with carers three times a day, me five afternoons a week and my sister two afternoons a week. At the end of the week she twisted awkwardly in bed and her hip dislocated, there followed three more ops, an attempted hip repair ( which disclocated again), another total hip replacement ( which dislocated! which meant as there was unfortunately an infection in place she had to have a girdlestone procedure in which the whole hip joint was removed.

All of this was a shock to Mum and to us, after the girdlestone procedure she went to a rehab unit, where she had pretty much no rehab for four weeks as the physio said she needed orthotics to raise her damaged leg in order to even attempt to walk, and it was going to take at least a month for the orthotics to arrive, they never did and the unit considered her "optimised" but immobile. She can stand to get on a ross return to move from bed to chair, bed to wheelchair, bed to bathroom but this takes two people to use it, there was no way that I ( who am on sickness benefits waiting for a large hernia op!) could do it even if I bought one, plus her small modern semi has doorways too small for any of this equipment.

The rehab unit pushed for discharge and recommended Mum would be safest in a care home. She refused to talk about it, and when me and my sister could get her to talk about it would agree to it but say she could remember nothing of our conversations the next day. It is true to say that her short term memory is now appalling, I have visited five days a week faithfully since February, yet she still doesn't think I have been by her side at all. Noone knows why her memory has gone, it could be the four general anaesthetics in a short space of time, it could be delerium which can take a while to resolve in the elderly, or it could be dementia, we don't know.

So last week the hospital said Mum really had to go asap, so we narrowed down her care home choice and made the decision for her, tried to involve her as much as possible with videos on our phone, visits from the care home manager, me writing down the stages of her leaving hospital in her diary, but it was still a shock to her when the ambulance took her to the care home on Friday of last week.

I visited on Friday and Sunday, I'm currently unwell so my sister ( who's great but lives further away) is covering Monday and Wednesday of this week...it's the first time I have been ill since February, I think I had burned out and got very low....and I hope to be well enough to go tomorrow.

Mum is very unhappy, says all the other residents are "gaga" She is the only normal one! The staff are lazy and don't care about her at all, she feels like she is in prison and just wants to go home. She told my sister on Monday that she can walk and is actually taking herself to the toliet in the night.......she can't walk, her hip joint has been removed, even the optimistic surgeon who did the op told me that at best she might manage a step transfer.

I have talked to the home, and booked appointments for a hair cut ( her hair has not been washed since February!) and a pedicure, plus they are trying to involve her in activities, which she is refusing to take part in. We have paid for a 4 week trial period. My sister is adamant that Mum just needs to make the best of it and we need to actually give this 6 months before even considering another home.
The staff seem lovely and caring, they are actually getting Mum to eat which is quite an achievement, she accuses some of them of shouting at her, but I've seen what they are doing and it is just raising their voice when they talk to her because she refuses to wear her hearing aids.

I'm a much softer touch than my sister, and if it wasn't for the fact that I am physically unwell myself and I also care for my youngest son who is autistic and has other health problems, I would probably have moved in with Mum, but I also know that it would destroy me and have a bad effect on my marriage. It also has to be said that she has been difficult all her life, so I don't know why I'm expecting her to turn into a sweet old lady at this late stage! So yes that's where I am now, I'm 64, with my own health difficulties and a mother who is desperately unhappy in a care home that seems pretty okay to me and my sister, someone tell me this is going to get better???

thesandwich · 25/06/2025 16:27

@KatharineClimpson welcome- sorry you find yourself here. And I’m sorry I can’t say things will get better. But you MUST prioritise your health and your family. You have done amazingly to keep your dm at home so long. You are not responsible for your dms happiness. You are doing the best out of bad circumstances.
@Hedonism i recognise the scenario planning- it can be so strsssful and exhausting. A phrase from the cancer threads( I’m a grad from there too) “ don’t borrow tomorrows sorrows”.
Cockroach to all. 🌺🌺

countrygirl99 · 25/06/2025 16:31

@KatharineClimpson chances are that wherever she is and whatever you do she is going to be unhappy because she can't turn back the clock to before the fall.

Isitsticky · 25/06/2025 16:32

Katherine, I'm with your sister. Sorry for what you're going through. Please prioritise your own health, your children and your marriage.

KatharineClimpson · 25/06/2025 21:00

thesandwich · 25/06/2025 16:27

@KatharineClimpson welcome- sorry you find yourself here. And I’m sorry I can’t say things will get better. But you MUST prioritise your health and your family. You have done amazingly to keep your dm at home so long. You are not responsible for your dms happiness. You are doing the best out of bad circumstances.
@Hedonism i recognise the scenario planning- it can be so strsssful and exhausting. A phrase from the cancer threads( I’m a grad from there too) “ don’t borrow tomorrows sorrows”.
Cockroach to all. 🌺🌺

Thank you @thesandwich
That's good advice, I do have to re-prioritise, give myself a small pat on the back for keeping Mum in her own home for so long, and stop feeling so responsible for everyone's happiness.....time to woman up😄

KatharineClimpson · 25/06/2025 21:03

countrygirl99 · 25/06/2025 16:31

@KatharineClimpson chances are that wherever she is and whatever you do she is going to be unhappy because she can't turn back the clock to before the fall.

I know, I do think that she is still coming to terms with the fall and her lack of mobility, in some ways she still can't believe it, and I do have sympathy for that.

KatharineClimpson · 25/06/2025 21:07

Isitsticky · 25/06/2025 16:32

Katherine, I'm with your sister. Sorry for what you're going through. Please prioritise your own health, your children and your marriage.

My sister is wonderful, she is no nonsense and to the point, and she and you are both right. If there are any blessings to be found from Mum's fall and health decline, it's having my sister back in my life ( for various family reasons largely to do with Mum she had drifted away from regular contact with us all.)