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Homosexuality in the Classroom.

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Darcey1 · 25/11/2009 13:40

My daughter is nine. Yesterday she came home from school and said that her teacher had told the class that she was a lesbian. The teacher is about to have one of these civil partnerships and according to my daughter told the class that girls could marry girls and boys could marry boys if they wanted to.It was according to her entirely natural. This seems like corruption to me. I don't want my daughter exposed to this kind of lifestyle.

I am very upset about this and don't know what to do. Am I over reacting? Should the school have warned us that the teacher was going to do this? Do you think I should make a complaint to the school?

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daftpunk · 09/12/2009 23:04

winnybella;

are you homosexual...?

(feel free to tell me to fuck off)

winnybella · 09/12/2009 23:27

No. I just resent people discriminating against others for no good reason.

As you said, you have no problem with gay sex. Ok. You say you feel that gay marriage undermines heterosexual one- but how? Isn't it fair that if people want to commit themselves to a relationship (of which you approve) then gays should be able to do it as well?

And Christianity is a religion of tolerance- didn't you mention that you're Roman Catholic?

I'm in a loving relationship, we have a child together,us getting married wouldn't change a thing about how committed we are to each other.

Either you are or not. The rest is a religious or cultural matter.

Significant minority of all animal species is homosexual- it is normal and natural, even if it doesn't constitute a majority.

winnybella · 09/12/2009 23:30

And you didn't answer my question- can you really state with confidence that gays are incapable of falling in love and committing to a serious relationship?

badietbuddy · 09/12/2009 23:36

'Bring back family values'
And how, pray tell, are they going to do that? I'm a single mum to two children by, gasp 2 different fathers. Will I be taken to the gallows? Or maybe forced to marry one of these gay men who obviously can just 'turn straight'. What a great solution to sort out the values of this country eh?
IMO the problem with this country is the very lack of responsibility and commitment so many people feel. Surely by having civil partnerships, gay couples are actually contributing to the family values and stability of this country, no?

daftpunk · 09/12/2009 23:53

WB;

in bed on my phone...(falling asleep)..

will reply tomorrow..

g'night

winnybella · 10/12/2009 00:01

night night

seeker · 10/12/2009 08:07

"seeker;....why have you never married him..?"

Because I don't want to. I don't want to marry anyone. I DO want to spend the rest of my life with him.

cory · 10/12/2009 09:56

daftpunk Wed 09-Dec-09 22:13:33

"seeker;....why have you never married him..?
marriage isn't "just a piece of paper" it's a proper commitment, a sign that you want to spend the rest of your life with that person.

i know marriages fail, and i know people who are living together have great long-term relationships...but if you are just "living together", either of you can walk away so easily....you arn't married...
you know if a man refused to marry me.. i'd be long gone... "

well, if seeker and her partner would have found it so easy to walk away and still haven't done so after 30 years, doesn't that tell you something about commitment? wouldn't one rather know that about one's partner than just to feel that he hasn't left me because it's such a hassle to get out of marriage?

MeltedTreeChocolates · 10/12/2009 12:07

'And Christianity is a religion of tolerance- didn't you mention that you're Roman Catholic?'

Protestants and Roman Catholics are very different so I don't know about tolerence when it comes RCs but as a protestant can I say that yes, I think that having an active relationship with someone of the same sex is 'a sin' but no more so than any other. I do not single out gays because of my beliefs. I do not like it when Christians do. I do not believe that is what we should be doing. If someone decides to be with someone of the same sex I will not lie when asked and say I think it is perfectly acceptable in God's eyes because it isn't, BUT I would not make a big issue of it or target the person because of it. Gay relationships are fact. The teacher in the OP told the children the truth. I will inform my DS of it. I will tell him what I believe but even he must make his own decision about it. I would be bitterly disapointed if he targeted homosexuals.

We are to be tolerent in the sense that we are to love everybody no matter what. We do not have to agree with what everybody choses to do in their lives though iyswim? Nobody is perfect, so as Christians we should not target.

MeltedTreeChocolates · 10/12/2009 12:10
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birdofthenorth · 10/12/2009 12:34

I'm a Christian and me, my church and my fellow Chirstian mates are appalled by homophobia. Jesus taught about love and tolerance. As Stonewall say, some people are gay- get over it. I also know many out LGB Christians. The the two things are not exclusive.

As it happens I'm CofE but have heaps of RC friends, none of whom believe gayness is a sin. The world has moved on, OP aside.

I love Mumsnet but I'm a bit shocked to find this nonsense on here to be honest. Yummy mummys and slummy mummys are great, but the over-priviledged-home-counties-stay-at-home-mum-in-Boden stereotype takes on a really unsavoury tone when you throw in one or two raging bigots. I suggest you toddle off and post on the BNP website where you belong!

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MeltedTreeChocolates · 10/12/2009 12:56

I think you lost me at the end there butterfly.

There can be dogma and tradition in protestants too..

It is a human thing, not a catholic thing.

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GetOrfMoiLand · 10/12/2009 13:19

By LeninGrotto Wed 09-Dec-09 22:10:45 -
"Outcomes for children in lesbian mother families are the same as for those in other families"

I absolutely agree. My mother is gay, she has two children, me aged 31 and my brother aged 22. Our upbringing was no better or worse than any of our friends raised with hetero parents, whether married or living together.

DP - you talk about family values. Lesbian parenthood and family values are not mutually exclusive. It is perfectly possible to have wonderful unamrried gay parents, just as it is possible to have awful hetero married parents. You can't just make generalised assumptions on how good a family unit is based on marital status and/or sexual orientation.

Dp you also mention somewhere else that your upbringing was so harsh that it would be viewed as abusive nowaday. Presumably your parents were/are married heterosexuals. So please how can you state the your particular family model is any better than the alternative? Would you not have preferred to have been brought up by lesbians who were not abusive?

ItsIgginningToLookALotLikeXmas · 10/12/2009 14:35

Birdofthenorth, I've just been given some posters for the Stonewall campaign you mentioned - will be interested to see what reaction I get once they're up in my classroom!

mumblecrumble · 10/12/2009 14:48

Yippeee!!!!

As a teacher getting rather fed up of being told what we're allowed to say and do (e.g. hiding sexuality, not joining facebook etc). I am very pleased for your daughters teacher who finally felt able to let her class know about her impending nuptuals. I;d have been gutted (as a hetro) if I'd felt pressured not to tell my class about my wedding.

Good on her. She's educating her class well.

noddyholder · 10/12/2009 16:29

www.catholicherald.co.uk/articles/a0000592.shtml

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noddyholder · 10/12/2009 16:48

this was meant to have a sorry!

birdofthenorth · 10/12/2009 16:57

ItsIginningto... the Stonewall posters go down great with teenagers -tend to prompt lively debate but that's great news as far as I'm concerned! They do postcards too- I've sent a few to my less broadminded friends to amuse myself!

ItsIgginningToLookALotLikeXmas · 10/12/2009 19:25

Ohh, I have postcards too! Never thought of actually posting them.. (what's DPs address anyone? )

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