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Homosexuality in the Classroom.

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Darcey1 · 25/11/2009 13:40

My daughter is nine. Yesterday she came home from school and said that her teacher had told the class that she was a lesbian. The teacher is about to have one of these civil partnerships and according to my daughter told the class that girls could marry girls and boys could marry boys if they wanted to.It was according to her entirely natural. This seems like corruption to me. I don't want my daughter exposed to this kind of lifestyle.

I am very upset about this and don't know what to do. Am I over reacting? Should the school have warned us that the teacher was going to do this? Do you think I should make a complaint to the school?

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Elfytigga · 05/12/2009 09:51

dp

tigga;

of course homosexuality is about sex, what else is it about..?

dp

It's about who you are and who you love - there are plenty of realtionships that don't involve sex that aren't friendships

dp
if i told you i was hetrosexual you would know i have sex with men and not women.....agree..?
dp

Nope, that would tell me who you love in an eros sense.

dp
i know a marriage isn't all about sex, but it is an important part....
dp

that goes right against what Paul said about sex.

dp
this is just going around in circles now....
dp

No, to go around in circles you would have actually had to answer some of my points which you have so far chosen not to do.

dp
think we need to sum up...

  1. homosexuality is legal but doesn't mean i have to accept it as normal.

dp

No you don't but if you say that or post that you are open to being challenged on it.

dp
2) i don't want my primary aged children being taught about homosexuality.....i will talk to them about it when i feel they are ready....a female teacher talking about getting married to a man is acceptable as that is natural to me and my family.
dp

Then educate them at home. You have no rights whatsoever to deny somebody telling her class she's entering into a civil partnership unless you deny that to all teachers.

dp
3) i don't want homosexuals forced into straightness....but believe most of them could live happily straight if they wanted. you don't need sex to stay alive...and they could have sex anyway....just not with each other.
dp

I disproved that point quite effectively - you chose to ignore the proof and carry on with just opinion. Unless you can provide some proof you'll just have an opinion that's wrong with the facts in evidence.

dp
4) even if i'd wanted to be a lesbian i wouldn't have been one, i wanted to get married and have a house full of children.....that is more important to me than my own selfish sexual needs.
dp

Please tell me when you wanted to be heterosexual and made that choice? There are ways for people in same sex realtionships to have lots of children and they can enter into civil partnerships which is a legally recognised contract as is marriage. Your point is moot.

dp
5) i know that one person can never satisfy your every need.....too much to ask of anyone.....
dp

What has that got to do with anything? Another non seqitur.

AwaitingYourResponseTiggaxx

noddyholder · 05/12/2009 10:49

''The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of an eye the more light you pour on it the more it contracts''

LeninGrad · 05/12/2009 11:41

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MillyR · 05/12/2009 18:33

Insider, I can't believe you used the 'some of my best friends are gay' line before saying something homophobic. What era is that from? Did you get here in a time machine?

Rafi · 05/12/2009 21:47

DP: Thank you.

Anyone seen this?

Insider333 · 05/12/2009 22:08

MillyR:

Hard line militant gay, or just one of the "right on" "trendy" "pc" brigade who live in dreamland and not the unpleasant real world?

LeninGrad · 05/12/2009 22:23

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MillyR · 06/12/2009 00:36

Insider, I think I am in the real word; thanks for asking. I don't find it unpleasant though and I live in a rural area in the North where, just like everywhere else, some people are gay.

There are gay couples with children at the village primary school (both lesbian couples and gay men). It is a small village and so it is obvious to the children that not everybody lives with one man and one woman. All of these people are real; they aren't here raising their families just to annoy people through their PC trendy relationships. They have children, and nieces and nephews, and friends with children.

Why should these children have to face prejudice at school, and why should schools behave as if the children's family circumstances don't exist?

If you cannot understand that many children are related to gay people and know that these relatives are gay, then you are the one who is not living in the real world.

Gay adults are not some hypothetical situation; for many children they are simply people who love and care for them.

Elfytigga · 06/12/2009 16:55

Hey Rafi, thanks for the link. I see ST made it over there, well done btw nice points.

MillyR I think you and LG are at cross purposes - I have to be honest and was a tad confused by your post as well.

HavingAWetWeekendTiggaxx

daftpunk · 07/12/2009 10:41

tigga...

come here darlin....

what's all this about,,er..?

i have answered everything and more....i'm giving in ok....

noddyholder...

think i've finally worked you out...

you hate me but you love me.....you're a full on leftie but you've fallen in love with a BNP supporter....

it's a bad romance ...

Rah-rah ah-ah-ah...roma...roma-ma
gaga ooh la la....

ha ha ha ha ha ha

Elfytigga · 07/12/2009 13:00

dp I see you've gone for the ignore the points made in the hope they will go away strategy. They won't. As for 'being in love' I don't actually care about you one way or the other I don't know you.

ExpectedYouToNotAnswerAtSomePointButThoughtYou'dStickItOutLongerTiggaxx

reservejudgement · 07/12/2009 13:30

Rafi I saw that article and was a bit about the reference to this thread. It does appear to imply that the OP's stance is quite an acceptable one and that she was wrongly attacked for her views? OK, some of the language used to the OP was OTT but surely it's not overly leftie pinko to condemn homophobia? Hardly in the same category as controlled crying!
LeninGrad I'm in Ireland and it looks like we'll be having another referendum if that bill is to go through. In which case my MIL will arrange to have lots of extreme right wing propoganda posted to our house to attempt to sway dh and towards a "No" vote. My recycling bin will be very full!

daftpunk · 07/12/2009 13:58

tigga;

i have to go in 20....but if you really are interested in my answers...post back to me and i will get back on MN tonight...

i'm not running....just not sure if you're taking the piss...

noddyholder · 07/12/2009 14:01

You are right with the first part sadly the second? no

AngryFromManchester · 07/12/2009 14:05

I have only read the original post so please forgive me, but my husbands cousin is a teacher and also a lesbian and she had complaints made about her to the school by 'concerned parents' who seemed to somehow think that their children (even their sons) could somehow catch being a lesbian off her and it makes us all as a family very angry. She is a lovely woman who did have a few unsuccessful relationships with men until she found happiness with her now partner who just happens to be of the same sex. They have a child together and they are very happy. I cannot understand this kind of attitude that it is 'wrong' etc when we are in this day and age. Being gay or lesbian is not a new modern thing you know. People have been gay and lesbian from the begining of time, the only thing that has changed is that people are more accepting of diversity and hopefully the majority of people now see it as normal rather than unusual.

Rafi · 07/12/2009 20:10

reservejudgment that's what I thought. And you just know that none of the people commenting self-righteously about it on the DT site will come & look at the thread.

Angry The whole attitude is just daft! They seem to have this general view that we recruit or that we're somehow infectious...

daftpunk · 07/12/2009 22:07

actally tigga.... i will reply to you whether you want me to or not....this is in education so will stay on mumsnet for 2 million years.

homosexuality means having a sexual attraction to persons of the same sex..fact.

it's not about who you are and who you love...i'm afraid you're talking out of your jacksy on that one.

a lesbian teacher does not have the "right" to talk about homosexuality to my 9 yr old...

schools have "opt outs" for religious reasons..ie; a pupil does not have to take part in morning assembly....that is their "right"....think you need to read up on parents rights.

non seqitur....?

one person can never satisfy your every need .....not sure why that confused you...?

if i was a lesbian the only need a woman would satisfy would be a sexual one...men and women compliment each other better..it's nature.

Rafi · 08/12/2009 10:26

And heterosexuality means having a sexual attraction to persons of the opposite sex.

Dp, you'll never know how it feels to be a lesbian, because you're not one, & we could go round in circles on all this forever.

MrsMattie · 08/12/2009 10:30

Ooh, this sad old affair dragged up again, eh?

The BNP supporter doesn't want her kids knowing about lezzers. Funny that!

daftpunk · 08/12/2009 10:43

actually, i don't have that much of a problem with them...i have a bigger problem with middleclass lefties telling me what i have to accept...

lol @ Hitler...

what was he about...? can be summed up in two words...
social engineering...

perhaps you've missed the social engineering that's been going on here in the last 12 years...

Snorbs · 08/12/2009 11:08

Absolutely DP. These horrible social engineers, busy beavering away behind the screens to make normal people accept that there have been homosexuals in society for all of recorded history. Those revisionist bastards!

(Oh, and the irony of a Roman Catholic going on about social engineering, and complaining about being told what to accept, is stunning... )

TheBrandyButterflyEffect · 08/12/2009 11:17

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daftpunk · 08/12/2009 11:27

my record for having the last word was spending 3 weeks on a thread backing the BNP.... i got totally slaughtered, but i never gave up...

someone has to speak up for common sense...

TheBrandyButterflyEffect · 08/12/2009 11:48

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