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Homosexuality in the Classroom.

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Darcey1 · 25/11/2009 13:40

My daughter is nine. Yesterday she came home from school and said that her teacher had told the class that she was a lesbian. The teacher is about to have one of these civil partnerships and according to my daughter told the class that girls could marry girls and boys could marry boys if they wanted to.It was according to her entirely natural. This seems like corruption to me. I don't want my daughter exposed to this kind of lifestyle.

I am very upset about this and don't know what to do. Am I over reacting? Should the school have warned us that the teacher was going to do this? Do you think I should make a complaint to the school?

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winnybella · 08/12/2009 22:38

Daftpunk
Could you please explain why would sexual lifestyle of others even bother you? How does that concern you?

seeker · 08/12/2009 23:27

daftpunk - I didn't say that you were a troll, I said you were a wind up merchant. A completely different thing.

I find it impossible to believe that anyone genuinely doesn't realize that saying things against gay people IS homophobia.

Or that anyone can genuinely be so proud of being unenlightened and ignorant. So I can only assume that you post the way you do in order to wind people up. No other explanation is remotely feasible.

daftpunk · 09/12/2009 10:55

seeker;

arn't you mumsnets chief spokesperson for secular schools..?

you don't like your dc taking part in christian assemblies....

maybe i have you mixed up with someone else..?

Rafi · 09/12/2009 13:14

Dp, no-one can force you to approve of anything but as far as I can make out you think I (and LeninGrad, and Hester, and that teacher, and all other gay people) are suppressing our "natural" selves, which are secretly longing for celibate relationships with men, because we're ruled completely by our sex drives?

Is that more or less it?

(Oh & my DW and I are both second generation immigrants so I guess we shouldn't really be here anyway).

winnybella · 09/12/2009 13:15

daftpunk will you answer my question, please?

daftpunk · 09/12/2009 13:29

Rafi;

i have tried to leave this thread twice....i know i end up boring everyone with my posts)..... but when i see someone asking me a question, politeness takes over and i reply...or at least try to.

i could stay on this thread for weeks and i would never get my questions answered..

questions like this one...

why is marriage between homosexuals so important to (mostly Labour) politicians, when marriage between hetrosexuals is seen as not necessary.....

Labour have destroyed the traditional family unit while bigging up marriage between gay people..

i can't get my head around that one...

daftpunk · 09/12/2009 13:41

i can't get work this out either...

why am i hated so much for saying i don't want anymore immigrants here, when alot of the immigrants coming into this country have opinions on homosexuals and women that would turn your blood cold...

but hey...you love em...cos they bring "diversity"

TheBrandyButterflyEffect · 09/12/2009 15:06

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slug · 09/12/2009 15:44

Hi daftpunk. I'm an immigrant....do I scare you?

Snorbs · 09/12/2009 16:39

DP, I don't think anybody here hates you. I don't think anybody here cares that much about you to expend that much energy on you. I think a number of people are getting tired of your "wide-eyed ingenue as a cover for close-minded bigotry" schtick, though.

To answer your question regarding marriage - marriage between heterosexuals isn't, and never has been, necessary. It's something available to those who want it and it brings with it certain benefits over those who don't wish to get married. Exactly the same goes for civil partnerships between homosexual couples.

There's nothing spectacularly complicated or hard to understand about that unless you assume that homosexual relationships are somehow less acceptable than heterosexual ones. Ah, I see your problem with it now...

darcymum · 09/12/2009 16:52

Haven't read the thread, just the opener. I don't think the teacher should have said that, it's bring her personal life into the classroom. I would think the same had she been marrying a man.

As for the don't want my child exposed to it- well hello welcome to the real world.

Has anyone else said all that?

Blu · 09/12/2009 17:00

"why is marriage between homosexuals so important to (mostly Labour) politicians, when marriage between hetrosexuals is seen as not necessary....."

Civil partnership was important to many people in gvt because it gives all citizen greater equality in the way they live together. because it was seen as a democratic imperative, and long overdue..and while it brings many benefits to longstanding loving gay couples (can you IMAGINE having lived with someone for 20 years to then find that the police wouldn't tell you that they had been killed in an accident? That an aunt in another country had greater rights to arrange the funeral than you? that the funeral could take place without you even being invited or informed??).

I completely fail to see how heterosexual marriage has been downgraded: in fact CP is called CP, not marriage, precisely because as you say, many religious people see opening marriage to gay people as unacceptable. So the gvt pandered to the institution of het marriage! Anyway, if marriage is as you define it - something that happens within the eyes of God, what role does Gvt have in it's protection or otherwise? It's a religious matter! Non-religious people of all sexualities should be able to have a CP, IMO, and leave 'marriage' as something that religious people do, in churches.

OooohWhatAFuss · 09/12/2009 19:15

But Darcymum, what if she changes her name when she gets married? I told the kids in my class when I was getting married and explained that I would now be Mrs OooohWhatAFuss. I also told them when I was pregnant, also personal life but both the marriage and the pregnancy would become glaringly obvious after a while, what with the name change and turning into a beached whale

daftpunk · 09/12/2009 19:51

winnybella;....the sex life of homosexuals doesn't bother or concern me....it's the marriage thing.

snorbs;....i know people don't hate me, you can't have feelings for someone you've never met....i was being theatrical..

Blu;.... when i said "in the eyes of god" i was talking about how i see marriage (being catholic) lots of non-religious people get married, they want to make a proper commitment to each other, you don't have to do that in a church dressed in a long white dress. hetrosexual marriage has benefits to society, the facts are there. children brought up in a stable home with a mother & a father have better outcomes...they do better at school, are less likely to do drugs, get involved in crime..etc. Labour have failed to support the traditional family unit, i don't know why..?

i will never understand why some people live togther, have children, but never get married ....that's just shacking up imo..there is no commitment.

i don't know what the outcomes are for children being brought up by homosexuals....probably not enough of them to get reliable stats....

seeker · 09/12/2009 20:33

daftpunk, when you have been with your husband for 30 years you can lecture me about commitment, and not before!

seeker · 09/12/2009 20:34

And I hate homophobia and racism whatever the colour of the face it's coming out of.

daftpunk · 09/12/2009 21:22

seeker;...i've been married for 18 years...i know enough about marriage & commitment.

noddyholder · 09/12/2009 21:23

You know nothing about anything unfortunately

seeker · 09/12/2009 21:35

Enough to tell me that my 30 year relationship counts for nothing because we are unmarried?

And exactly how has the labour government dwngraded marriage? I don;t know why I ask you these questions because I know you won't amswer them, but I can't stop myself!

noddyholder · 09/12/2009 21:38

Seeker nothing any of us says will change her sick views it just keeps her engaged and gives a forum for serious bigotry.there really is only one thing for it

LeninGrotto · 09/12/2009 22:10

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daftpunk · 09/12/2009 22:13

noddyholder;....i thought by singing lady gaga to you i had finally seen you off...
you are obviously made of sterner stuff....i like it.

seeker;....why have you never married him..?
marriage isn't "just a piece of paper" it's a proper commitment, a sign that you want to spend the rest of your life with that person.

i know marriages fail, and i know people who are living together have great long-term relationships...but if you are just "living together", either of you can walk away so easily....you arn't married...
you know if a man refused to marry me.. i'd be long gone...

Labour have downgraded marriage, infact i'm suprized they haven't banned it....
they put positive spin on every other type of family..single parents/ homosexuals/ any other family unit that isn't seen as boring married hetros..
the tories are laughing all the way to number 10...they are now the party of the family..they will bring back family values, because they know that's what the majority want.

Kaloki · 09/12/2009 22:38

"but if you are just "living together", either of you can walk away so easily....you arn't married..."

There's this thing called divorce which kind of messes up your argument. There's also affairs. The only security marriage offers over living together is financial. Which is not necessarily linked to a loving, committed and stable home environment.

No one has downgraded marriage, they've just opened it up to people who you don't like.

winnybella · 09/12/2009 22:55

Plenty of people walk away easily from marriage every day, daftpunk.
A piece of paper is not a guarantee of happiness.
If you say that people don't have to do it for a religious reasons and they can have a civil ceremony- well, there are lots of people who don't care for the state sanctifying a relationship.
I think it would be reasonable to agree that all that is needed is a true commitment.
Are you saying that gays are incapable of falling in love and committing themselves to a relationship? How would you know about it?

nzshar · 09/12/2009 23:00

Marriage is nothing to me personally and to say its easier to walk away from a relationship if you are not married compared to being married is utter bullshit IMHO.
I personally walked away from an 11 year relationship of which 8 were married, but now in a extremely stable 9 year relationship unmarried.
A peice of paper made and will make no difference to how my relationships have worked out.