Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Education

Join the discussion on our Education forum.

Whitehall “braced for private schools collapse” 2

990 replies

ICouldBeVioletSky · 01/01/2025 20:05

Starting a second thread as the first one is still very busy, albeit it's veered off in a few directions...

Original article

https://www.thetimes.com/article/e6465c9e-d462-48cb-a73e-74480059a1f3?shareToken=05bf599cd4a2376fe3ce83cdce607100

OP posts:
Thread gallery
44
CatkinToadflax · 06/01/2025 14:22

@CautiousLurker01 Flowers very similar here too. My DH has recently lost his job because he was so preoccupied with caring for me while I tried not to jump into the sea due to the relentless pressures of caring for a disabled child.

For those with their spiteful, smug, nasty comments - I often wonder what they’d do if they had our lives. Sending you a hug.

Sasskitty · 06/01/2025 14:50

How anyone can be smug about the current Labour Party catastrophe is beyond me.

Look at their latest waste of time / offensive mind boggling crap.. who voted for these people.

https://www.tiktok.com/@uklabour/video/7456091774868639008?lang=en

TikTok - Make Your Day

https://www.tiktok.com/@uklabour/video/7456091774868639008?lang=en

twistyizzy · 06/01/2025 14:50

Sasskitty · 06/01/2025 14:50

How anyone can be smug about the current Labour Party catastrophe is beyond me.

Look at their latest waste of time / offensive mind boggling crap.. who voted for these people.

https://www.tiktok.com/@uklabour/video/7456091774868639008?lang=en

Yeh this is pretty offensive, there's a post on the Feminism board about it

Sasskitty · 06/01/2025 14:52

Offensive, inadequate and shockingly incompetent.

The lyrics. WTH

Whitehall “braced for private schools collapse” 2
CautiousLurker01 · 06/01/2025 15:36

Thank you for the replies. Had psyched myself up for a tough day but as always you hope everything will be okay so it still hits you as hard as ever each time. Thank you @Sasskitty for the link - had no idea you could do that. It will be my go-to from here on in - what a farce that you can no longer contact the GP that has known your child for 19 years with a quick call and get the sicknote.

Makes me wonder what I’ve been paying my taxes for some days…

Think I am taking the whole VAT discussion a bit too personally as it feel slike a total slap in teh face after all these years - if another person says ‘well at least you had the money to [get an assessment privately/got to a private school]’ etc I will scream. It’s as though ‘being middle class’ and having ‘money’ menas that you are teflon, that your kids are similarly coated… when, as the old saying goes, money does not buy happiness. It doesn’t even buy you security or peace of mind. The fact that daddy is a high earner does eff all for me or my child when I am literally talking her off the ledge or prizing the razor blade out of her hand because she just cannot face sitting in a classroom today or focus on an assignment, in fact it makes matters worse because when social services appear in response to calls to the GP like todays (and they will, no doubt, yet again), they take one look at the house and cars and decide we don’t need help or that we can buy it in (you can’t - when they’re in cahms no private therapist/[sychiatrust will touch you).

The fact that she has 10 GCSEs grades 7-9 doesn’t offset the atom deep sense of failure she feels for not surviving 6th form, for not being able to mask it long enough to get through the day, to not even last one full term at 6th form in the two years she tried. In stead dad sits at his desk at the office and cries; I sit in the lounge, hiding from the decorators, crying and hoping my son doesn’t see. And we both know no-one will help - not camhs, not social services, not the Adult MH service, not even the ASD/ADHD service, because the closest thing we ever had to ‘support’ was when we were in a child centred independent school that we can no longer afford.

tortoise18 · 06/01/2025 15:38

Sasskitty · 06/01/2025 14:50

How anyone can be smug about the current Labour Party catastrophe is beyond me.

Look at their latest waste of time / offensive mind boggling crap.. who voted for these people.

https://www.tiktok.com/@uklabour/video/7456091774868639008?lang=en

It's a ridiculous bit of comms, but once again, is this a topic about private school fees on an education board, or is it just a catch-all moaning thread for whatever three people hate about the government today? There must be other sub-forums for that if's bothering you so much.

Sasskitty · 06/01/2025 15:47

@tortoise18 ‘.. is this a topic about private school fees on an education board, or is it just a catch-all moaning thread for whatever’

A thread often evolves into related subjects. As far as VAT is concerned - I thought this tawdry little tik tok bull shit was similar. So there’s the link.. ill thought out (understatement) offensive and ineffective.

dottiehens · 06/01/2025 15:58

winterrabbit · 01/01/2025 22:54

That's complete rubbish. It won't benefit them in the slightest as classes sizes will be bigger and there will be less resources for more kids. Such a stupid jealous view. I honestly want to punch Bridget whatever her name is if she tells us one more time that state education desperately needs more funding. Noone disagrees with that. What we disagree with is the concept that the parents who are already paying 25k a year to send their kids to a private school and who have undoubtedly already paid a shit load in tax, should pay for it. As usual, the middle classes are Labour's cash cow. And to rush it in mid school year is verging in criminal. Why not rush in the anti-vaping law which is serious risk to public health? Apparently that needs 12 months to allow retail to prepare but this doesn't? Pure greed and robbery. This country is rapidly going down the toilet.

Exactly! Bloody idiots they are destroying wherever was left of the country and economy.

HooverIsAlwaysBroken · 06/01/2025 16:53

I got this from the FWR board (English translation of text)

  • yes it is unrelated
  • yes it’s bothers me - does it bother you?

(I would assume the link is lack of judgement? I mean with the timing with the decision not to have another inquiry into the grooming gangs)

Whitehall “braced for private schools collapse” 2
HooverIsAlwaysBroken · 06/01/2025 16:58

@tortoise18

tortoise18 · 06/01/2025 17:05

HooverIsAlwaysBroken · 06/01/2025 16:58

@tortoise18

Edited

The whole thing is fucking stupid, as are a million other things that have absolutely nothing to do with anything under discussion.

Sasskitty · 06/01/2025 17:10

tortoise18 · 06/01/2025 17:05

The whole thing is fucking stupid, as are a million other things that have absolutely nothing to do with anything under discussion.

The incompetence of Labour is under discussion.

The incompetence that led them to implement VAT on education.

The incompetence that led to this tik tok horror (‘just a punch in the young girls pussy’ - a lyric in this Labour political advert).

As someone else has said - do they need Alastair back? It couldn’t be worse.

tortoise18 · 06/01/2025 17:17

Sasskitty · 06/01/2025 17:10

The incompetence of Labour is under discussion.

The incompetence that led them to implement VAT on education.

The incompetence that led to this tik tok horror (‘just a punch in the young girls pussy’ - a lyric in this Labour political advert).

As someone else has said - do they need Alastair back? It couldn’t be worse.

Edited

Some 21-year-old in the comms department who didn't bother checking the translation of Portuguese lyrics for their shit TikTok is not running government policy, hope this helps.

twistyizzy · 06/01/2025 17:21

tortoise18 · 06/01/2025 17:17

Some 21-year-old in the comms department who didn't bother checking the translation of Portuguese lyrics for their shit TikTok is not running government policy, hope this helps.

That 21 Yr old wouldn't have put this out without running it past superiors. Comms work closely with Leadership. There's no way Labour leadership didn't have sight of this before the 21 Yr old pressed "upload". Maybe read the thread on the Feminist board about it, some very unhappy Labour supporters. Hope that helps.

Sasskitty · 06/01/2025 17:23

tortoise18 · 06/01/2025 17:17

Some 21-year-old in the comms department who didn't bother checking the translation of Portuguese lyrics for their shit TikTok is not running government policy, hope this helps.

😂😂😂😂👍🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣

tortoise18 · 06/01/2025 17:23

twistyizzy · 06/01/2025 17:21

That 21 Yr old wouldn't have put this out without running it past superiors. Comms work closely with Leadership. There's no way Labour leadership didn't have sight of this before the 21 Yr old pressed "upload". Maybe read the thread on the Feminist board about it, some very unhappy Labour supporters. Hope that helps.

Edited

I'll look at that board. It would be a more relevant place for discussion than here.

(I'm not defending anything about this bit of comms, which is hopeless on a number of levels, but the idea that anyone in the "leadership" signs off on TikToks is fanciful at best)

IVTT · 06/01/2025 17:24

Amherst School in Loughborough have announced today they will close in July this year.
That’s over 300 children now needing a place for Sept in North Leicestershire.

Leicestershire is one is the Counties cited by the BBC as expecting a rise in children requiring a school place too. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced3e219lxzo.amp

twistyizzy · 06/01/2025 17:40

IVTT · 06/01/2025 17:24

Amherst School in Loughborough have announced today they will close in July this year.
That’s over 300 children now needing a place for Sept in North Leicestershire.

Leicestershire is one is the Counties cited by the BBC as expecting a rise in children requiring a school place too. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced3e219lxzo.amp

No doubt many posters on here will be delighted at that and completely ignore the stress on those children.

FYI parents at another school have also been told today but as it's not yet been announced publicly I can't give details.

So that's 2 announced today as closing as a direct consequence of the VAT policy.

twistyizzy · 06/01/2025 17:41

tortoise18 · 06/01/2025 17:23

I'll look at that board. It would be a more relevant place for discussion than here.

(I'm not defending anything about this bit of comms, which is hopeless on a number of levels, but the idea that anyone in the "leadership" signs off on TikToks is fanciful at best)

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5245899-labours-tiktok-ad-wtf

Labours TikTok Ad - WTF!!! | Mumsnet

Have you seen Labours new TikTok ad? [[https://www.tiktok.com/@uklabour/video/7456091774868639008?lang=en https://www.tiktok.com/@uklabour/video/7456...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5245899-labours-tiktok-ad-wtf

HooverIsAlwaysBroken · 06/01/2025 17:48

twistyizzy · 06/01/2025 17:40

No doubt many posters on here will be delighted at that and completely ignore the stress on those children.

FYI parents at another school have also been told today but as it's not yet been announced publicly I can't give details.

So that's 2 announced today as closing as a direct consequence of the VAT policy.

I hope that the impact assessment Labour did before implementing this policy took not only affordability but also school closures into account

boys3 · 06/01/2025 17:55

https://lsf.org/app/uploads/2025/01/Faqs.pdf

undoubtedly disruptive, and quite how just retaining the current y10 through to GCSE conclusion in 2026 at the school will work in practice (when all other years have gone) remains to seen.

https://lsf.org/app/uploads/2025/01/Faqs.pdf

Sasskitty · 06/01/2025 17:58

These poor children that are directly affected. How many children at these closing schools are in Y10 ? Y12 ? In the middle of exam years?

Eg. GCSE / A level Exams in may 2026 and the schools close in July 2025.

Starmer and Reeves you absolute selfish thoughtless bastards. Ruining children’s education at critical times.

twistyizzy · 06/01/2025 18:02

tortoise18 · 06/01/2025 17:23

I'll look at that board. It would be a more relevant place for discussion than here.

(I'm not defending anything about this bit of comms, which is hopeless on a number of levels, but the idea that anyone in the "leadership" signs off on TikToks is fanciful at best)

"Hopeless"??? It is vile misogyny and don't tell me that they don't do their due diligence on each bit of comms that comes out!! It is either failure to do due diligence ie incompetence OR it is intentional. Neither is a good look especially in light of the Jess Phillips + rape gangs news over the past few days.

Sasskitty · 06/01/2025 18:06

Sasskitty · 06/01/2025 17:58

These poor children that are directly affected. How many children at these closing schools are in Y10 ? Y12 ? In the middle of exam years?

Eg. GCSE / A level Exams in may 2026 and the schools close in July 2025.

Starmer and Reeves you absolute selfish thoughtless bastards. Ruining children’s education at critical times.

Edited

But thank god his ‘boy’ was ok. Fck the other children.

Sasskitty · 06/01/2025 18:11

No such fcking promise to other peoples children then? 🤮🤮🤮🤮

Whitehall “braced for private schools collapse” 2
Swipe left for the next trending thread