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Help please!! Foul play, teacher marking work fraudulently

267 replies

TM80 · 01/07/2023 12:15

I would like some advice on what I should do. My DD is in Y5, they have finished their end of year tests for Maths and English. The teacher had lost a few of the children's test answer papers, so he has given one of the children the opportunity to do the test again. However, my DD has observed the teacher providing the child who had to do the test again with the answers. Now unsurprisingly, this child has scored 140 out of 140, this child also happens to be the 'teacher's pet'. Where do I go with this information?

OP posts:
WhereTheSuburbsMeetUttoxeter · 01/07/2023 12:45

Maireas · 01/07/2023 12:44

Outrageous. I'll send you a pen.

Merci, ma cherie

TrundleWheel76 · 01/07/2023 12:45

DragonCatcher · 01/07/2023 12:43

In the UK there is no standard year 5 test I'm afraid to tell you.

But the OPs daughter has found out that there is! Ha!

Maireas · 01/07/2023 12:46

WhereTheSuburbsMeetUttoxeter · 01/07/2023 12:45

Merci, ma cherie

And a scented rubber for remembering basic French.

SomersetBrie · 01/07/2023 12:46

I can see why you would want to report cheating generally, but a Y5 test has no meaning, and the child themselves will be disadvantaged later when they do a "real" test with a different teacher.
I'd let it go.

DragonCatcher · 01/07/2023 12:46

@TrundleWheel76 🤣

Maireas · 01/07/2023 12:47

@TrundleWheel76 genius

HideTheCroissants · 01/07/2023 12:47

I work in primary. There is no “standard” test in Y5. They do tests but they aren’t standard. Our trust does decide which tests and the year groups across the trust schools do the same tests but it isn’t standardised across the country or even the LEA.

MichelleScarn · 01/07/2023 12:48

And teacher wudda gotten away with it if it hadn't been for op's pesky kid!

WhereTheSuburbsMeetUttoxeter · 01/07/2023 12:48

Maintenant, je travaille dans le jardin.

L'escargots sont besoin du sel.

thimbbwebelr153 · 01/07/2023 12:49

You honestly don't know the truth of the matter. Kids say all sorts. If you "report" this to the school you will look ridiculous

TM80 · 01/07/2023 12:49

So what are the end of year tests?

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dapsnotplimsolls · 01/07/2023 12:49

ApocalypseNowt · 01/07/2023 12:18

Social services, police and the government. Just to be on the safe side.

And the press.

Balloonsandroses · 01/07/2023 12:50

My kid is in year 5. She hasn’t had any end of year tests.

if anything this kid is now disadvantaged for future tests because they haven’t had a realistic experience on this one.

just forget it.

WhereTheSuburbsMeetUttoxeter · 01/07/2023 12:51

Maireas · 01/07/2023 12:46

And a scented rubber for remembering basic French.

Ah merci! Peut etre Squiggles?

I can't remember the word for excited 🤣

MichelleScarn · 01/07/2023 12:51

WhereTheSuburbsMeetUttoxeter · 01/07/2023 12:48

Maintenant, je travaille dans le jardin.

L'escargots sont besoin du sel.

Maths les maths cest difficile
Mais le francaise est bien facile

Ecoute repete

(I think)..

Niceseasidetown · 01/07/2023 12:51

The fact you're confused about this being a national test is a good illustration of how easy it is to get the wrong end of the stick.

This all sounds like playground gossip from here.

Are you saying that the teacher before your daughter's eyes gave the answers to another pupil? Extraordinary.

If not, then it sounds like the usual stuff kids speculate on.

HideTheCroissants · 01/07/2023 12:52

TM80 · 01/07/2023 12:49

So what are the end of year tests?

All our year groups do tests every term to ascertain “where the are”. To se. If they are at, below or exceeding the expected levels for that age group basically.

Antoninus · 01/07/2023 12:52

prime subject matter for Daily Mail sad face

WhereTheSuburbsMeetUttoxeter · 01/07/2023 12:55

MichelleScarn · 01/07/2023 12:51

Maths les maths cest difficile
Mais le francaise est bien facile

Ecoute repete

(I think)..

Maths est tres facile.

Pour dir a Francais, difficult. Mais... Quand, et apres les aperitifs, un dit avec les mains, et tous est pissed et comprend 🤣

WhereTheSuburbsMeetUttoxeter · 01/07/2023 12:57

Antoninus · 01/07/2023 12:52

prime subject matter for Daily Mail sad face

Bloody hope not 🤣

InstantGratificationDarkPlaygroundOfMN · 01/07/2023 13:01

Year 5 end of year/unit tests just go on annual reports which will mean bugger all a few years from now
Year 6 SATS unlikely to be rigged as year 6 teacher and invigilator would need to be complicit - so this child getting 140/140 will mean sod all when they have to do the SATS paper alone next year

WhereTheSuburbsMeetUttoxeter · 01/07/2023 13:01

Plus de Pastis? Mais oui merci. Pas de l'eau.

Je suis rock hard.

Donk. Oof. Zonk. 🤣

BiscuitsandPuffin · 01/07/2023 13:01

OP you're behaving disgracefully. Someone like you got me sacked from my first job as a teacher when I was reading the questions to a severely dyslexic child who was entitled to a reader and hadn't been given one for an end of term test. The test was internal, utterly meaningless beyond me checking their progress. One of the girls in the class told her mum I'd given the boy the answers when I never did. Her mum went on an orchestrated campaign to get other parents to complain about everything I did, and as she was a TA she backed up every lie claiming she had "witnessed" me doing these things, and my temporary contract was ended three days before Christmas.

Get off your conspiracy high horse and actually do some thinking about what you're saying here. Words matter.

JudgeJ · 01/07/2023 13:04

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 01/07/2023 12:19

@ApocalypseNowt how about MI5 and the FBI too? These terrible teachers😂

Let's chuck safe-guarding into the pot too! Bingo!

Smartiepants79 · 01/07/2023 13:05

All schools will have end of year/term/topic assessments that they use to work out where the children are at and what needs to be worked on next year.
Now, some of these may be used in more than one school. As stated above in some circumstances (academy chains for example) groups of schools may use the same tests.
These tests are for internal information only. They have no impact on the children beyond the next 3 months. I can’t for the life of me understand why a teacher would go to the effort of allowing one child to ‘cheat’ on these assessments. It’s meaningless and the discrepancy would be quickly picked up in the child’s next assessments in her next class with a different teacher.