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Help please!! Foul play, teacher marking work fraudulently

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TM80 · 01/07/2023 12:15

I would like some advice on what I should do. My DD is in Y5, they have finished their end of year tests for Maths and English. The teacher had lost a few of the children's test answer papers, so he has given one of the children the opportunity to do the test again. However, my DD has observed the teacher providing the child who had to do the test again with the answers. Now unsurprisingly, this child has scored 140 out of 140, this child also happens to be the 'teacher's pet'. Where do I go with this information?

OP posts:

User17865 · 01/07/2023 13:05

BiscuitsandPuffin · 01/07/2023 13:01

OP you're behaving disgracefully. Someone like you got me sacked from my first job as a teacher when I was reading the questions to a severely dyslexic child who was entitled to a reader and hadn't been given one for an end of term test. The test was internal, utterly meaningless beyond me checking their progress. One of the girls in the class told her mum I'd given the boy the answers when I never did. Her mum went on an orchestrated campaign to get other parents to complain about everything I did, and as she was a TA she backed up every lie claiming she had "witnessed" me doing these things, and my temporary contract was ended three days before Christmas.

Get off your conspiracy high horse and actually do some thinking about what you're saying here. Words matter.

That’s horrible biscuits! I’m sorry that happened to you, people can be absolutely arseholes at times 😔

MintyBinty · 01/07/2023 13:06

You do nothing, because this obviously never happened.

mumedu · 01/07/2023 13:06

You have way too much time on your hands. I am a Year 5 teacher and it sounds like you/ your daughter are deflecting. Is she making poor choices in class and therefore being told off? Please don't be that type of entitled parent. It's not a good look. It's not good for your daughter's social development either.

Quercus30 · 01/07/2023 13:07

Year 5 tests are meaningless and purely for schools to gather pointless data. The only reason kids in different schools are doing the same test is because it's been downloaded off the same website. You aren't doing your daughter any favours behaving like this. No wonder we are all leaving the profession.

PrueRamsay · 01/07/2023 13:08

Well OP either your DD is lying that the teacher sat down in front of her and went through the test telling this child exactly what to write.

Or they’re a grass.

Nobody likes a grass.

Or, personne n’aime un traitre

Maireas · 01/07/2023 13:09

@BiscuitsandPuffin - seriously, that's really terrible. It shows you what entitled kids can do, backed up by arrogant and entitled parents. Imagine this poor teacher being absolutely castigated.

Lorelielee · 01/07/2023 13:09

Good God, this scandal needs blowing wide open. Is this a dead cat ? Or something that goes deeper into the establishment? Russian conspiracy? The Blob? There’s more to this….

BiscuitsandPuffin · 01/07/2023 13:12

@Maireas @User17865 Thanks it was 11 years ago and it still burns. This OP has brought it all back. In my case if the mum in question hadn't been a TA who had worked at the school a few years I don't think they would have believed any of it (she wasn't even in my classroom for some of the things she claimed she'd seen me do), but in that case and this case I don't know why on earth the parent is unquestioningly believing the child's version of events when it's obviously preposterous, and constructing this ridiculous persecution fantasy.

Nowthenhere · 01/07/2023 13:13

If it is a reality that an adult has given special privileges to one child this may risk the child becoming more isolated from their peers and at risk of being groomed.

If it is a reality that it happened then questioning the alter motive is important and raising a safeguarding concern through the schools safeguarding lead is the best way forward.

Well done for being vigilant on keeping other children safe in addition to your own.

TrundleWheel76 · 01/07/2023 13:15

Nowthenhere · 01/07/2023 13:13

If it is a reality that an adult has given special privileges to one child this may risk the child becoming more isolated from their peers and at risk of being groomed.

If it is a reality that it happened then questioning the alter motive is important and raising a safeguarding concern through the schools safeguarding lead is the best way forward.

Well done for being vigilant on keeping other children safe in addition to your own.

Safeguarding concern mention

Bingo!

LilacSorbet · 01/07/2023 13:16

HideTheCroissants · 01/07/2023 12:47

I work in primary. There is no “standard” test in Y5. They do tests but they aren’t standard. Our trust does decide which tests and the year groups across the trust schools do the same tests but it isn’t standardised across the country or even the LEA.

Aha! You're in on it!
You probably change the batteries in pigeons too.
Bloody teachers.

Maireas · 01/07/2023 13:16

Because that's what they do, @BiscuitsandPuffin , I've seen it time and again. I just ignore some of the batshit emails " you don't let my daughter answer questions" "my son was told off when he did nothing wrong" yadda yadda yadda. Some parents just don't get it. They believe anything their child tells them and automatically believe the worst of teachers. I can understand why this was triggering for you. How awful.

Singleandproud · 01/07/2023 13:23

If this is indeed true then it is more likely that the child experiences significant challenges outside of school (which you may know nothing about) and by picking the child for jobs, and being less stringent on behaviour that they are doing the child a kindness, although they should do it more stealthily.

I have also read for a child who I believe had dyslexia, traditionally they got very low scores in tests but with a reader did better than anyone else in the class, I could see a less experienced teacher giving out those results in front of people in an ill-advised way to improve the childs confidence.

Custardslices · 01/07/2023 13:23

Bit odd to be giving the child the answers infront of another child.

What do you want to do OP?

Sheruns · 01/07/2023 13:23

I'm sure several other posters have already said it but I'm so shocked at your delusion and the entire unbelievability of this story that I came here to say there are no end of year five tests that everyone in every school takes.

They don't exist. Simple

dapsnotplimsolls · 01/07/2023 13:24

Sheruns · 01/07/2023 13:23

They don't exist. Simple

How dare you? OP's DD knows children from other schools who do one so clearly it's a national, standardised test ...

Singleandproud · 01/07/2023 13:25

In terms of what action you should take: remove your child from the school immediately and save the teacher from both yours and your child's meddling.

Quiverer · 01/07/2023 13:25

None of this makes sense. If the teacher lost some papers, why would he make only one child redo the tests, rather than all the children whose papers he had lost? If he did, he wouldn't give them the same questions, because they would have the advantage of having practised the test already; but if he gave them different questions, how would you daughter know about them? How does your daughter know what he gave the child in question? If he wanted to risk his entire career by helping his pet to cheat, why would he not have done that first time round?

Inkpotlover · 01/07/2023 13:25

My OP teaches Y5 and he reckons a test where you'd give out a score of 140 would take hours to sit and mark! So I'm calling bullshit on this.

Lorelielee · 01/07/2023 13:25

I think you have discovered the smoking gun. Be careful, that’s all I’m saying.

Shannith · 01/07/2023 13:25

OP I'd suggest getting your DD to investigate all manner of crimes.

I'd be utterly carefree about her relative maths and English results if I were you.

For a 9/10 year old she's showing great promise as a future industrial spy. Or superintendent.

What's her take on the current state of economy? Local parking laws? The sky is the limit.

Except it's not. She's a child and has probably put 2 and 2 together and made 5 - see that's why she's not getting 140 in maths.

This is one of those threads where most people would go, fair enough you've all made the same point repeatedly and sensibly. I'll reconsider my opinion.

But you are not doing that. Take everyone's advice. It's a non issue and do not encourage your DD in "investigating" it further as you are teaching her some bad habits.

Dotandtime · 01/07/2023 13:26

If you're in a state school in England, there's not a cat in hell's chance this is true.

Floralnomad · 01/07/2023 13:26

@TM80 , you need to seriously get a grip and stop taking everything your child tells you as the absolute and complete truth - it won’t be .

Superdupes · 01/07/2023 13:26

Why don't you just be glad that very shortly they'll be in Yr 6 with a new teacher and there won't be any more ridiculous favouritism? I've certainly known teachers with favourites that are treated anything from very slightly to quite considerably differently in almost every class I've ever worked or volunteered in.

Tulipvase · 01/07/2023 13:27

I think the standardised tests in year 7 are out of 140? Would private schools do a similar test?

Not that I think the OP should be doing anything about it, even if true.

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