Is anyone else waiting for 11+ results?

[rollonthesummer]

6 days to go and starting to get anxious...!

That's rough!

Scores for slough consortium seem ridiculously high - according to the 11+ forum.

Is that representative? Did anyone here's DC do surprisingly well?

My DS got 124 which is higher than I was expecting. So of course now I'm worried that the cut off for Langley will be very diff to prev years.

DD met a few friends at church, at Gang Show rehearsal and at a birthday party yesterday (busy day!) and it seems a mixed bag of results from her peer group. Everything from "sat one - no pass" to "sat three -scored over 400 in them all". Nobody yet has DD's amount of difference between scores, we'll see what happens today at school.

InMySpareTime...I'd heard that Alty Boys standardize their scores against the results of those sitting the Alty Boys test, while Sale standardize nationally.

Given the kids sitting Trafford tests are either better prepared or more selectively chosen to sit the tests, as suggested by the data here:

www.11plusdiy.co.uk/Info/PerformanceCentre.aspx

you can see why Sale scores would tend to be higher.

If Alty boys do indeed only compare against the Alty boys results, and Alty Girls do the same as Alty boys (lot of ifs!) that might explain your results?

Knackster, those were scary graphs, average 85% scores! We know two people who passed for AGGS, one with a score over 400. Given that 1700 sat the exam and only 335 qualified, the odds were against DD anyway. She's quite chipper about it, I'm actually quite glad she was so far off the mark with AGGS as it means we don't have the anxious wait of an appeal.

Knackster, those were scary graphs, average 85% scores!

Aren't they just? I've no idea at the level the tests were pitched at (it's some private mock exam firm) but the regional comparisons were interesting.

I'd love to know whether the difference was down to tutoring, or whether lots of Trafford kids don't even bother trying for the 11+ (bit of both, maybe...I believe Bucks has an 'opt out' policy so that 80%+ of the state kids sit the 11+, which would explain their result somewhat).

Anecdotally I'd say most children in Trafford sit at least one 11+ exam, though it varies widely between schools. There is a huge amount of tutoring in the borough, people routinely putting reception age DCs on tutor waiting lists to do a couple of hours a week fromY3.

As ever, I think it's down to parental encouragement. I know of a couple of kids who've gone for the 11+ because their parents want them too, rather than a grammar school being necessarily the best option for them (and fair play to them I suppose!). I know of one kid who hasn't sat any despite being very capable because his mum associates Alty boys with 'being posh', which made me somewhat sad, and I guess is an indication of how the grammar system has been corrupted round here.

At least one of DD's classmates only sat the 11+ to keep her mum happy, she had no intention of going to the grammar, but had to sit it "just to see how it goes" (I.e. To see if she met the family benchmark as they'd all sat it at one point in their lives)

I believe Bucks has an 'opt out' policy so that 80%+ of the state kids sit the 11+, which would explain their result somewhat)

Yep, in DS's year group of 60 children, there were only 2 who didn't sit the 11+. In his class alone, the pass rate is just under 40% this year.

Wow Avon that's a great pass rate. Ours was about 25% of the year group (but I think at least 5 opted out) and that was a pretty good pass rate for our local junior.

That's just for the figures for the 30 in DS's class though - I'm not sure what the other class's pass rate was, so it could be that that would bring the percentage down (or up, I guess, but I'd be surprised if it was higher than 40% across the year IYSWIM)

We seemed to have a higher percentage of boys pass than girls, it surprised me due to the weighting on the verbal side of things. I think all the parents of boys in our school were expecting the worst!

Just had a nightmare or a weekend, daughter that was considered borderline passing and was back in May (Y5) working at levels for end of Y6 was given a score of 69.
Don't have any problem with her not passing but do have a problem with the score, children recommended not to take the test were given higher scores. Something is seriously wrong and I just do not believe that is her correct score.
My daughter now feels like giving up on everything

LL12 that sounds odd, would you consider a remark?

I would except here you pay £25 for a remark but get no actual proof that you paper is actually remarked IUSWIM, they won't show you the actual test paper so you have no proof.

Where are you? I would think they would have to remark if you have paid, there must be some kind of audit process. I know on another forum someone mentioned the child not pressing hard enough on the pencil to produce a mark good enough for the computer to read, it was remark by a real person and the score changed. Might be worth a go for £25?

I'm in Bucks, I have a friend that paid for a remark last year, her child was expected to pass and she was concerned that as they are very heavy handed with a pencil and knew that they had rubbed out answer's that the computer could have read the lines they had rubbed out instead of the new answer given.
They would give them no evidence that the paper had actually been remarked yet in appeal were told that they would have to prove that the paper was incorrectly marked, How? when county won't prove either way if it was remarked or not, your word against theirs.

Have you been in to speak to the head? It's only my first go through this 11+ system so I don't know the ins and outs. There's a lot of advice on the 11+forum and a thread running about this very topic in the bucks section here might be worth a read or posting over there for some advice? They seem to know a lot on that forum! Good luck with it.

I haven't been to see the head yet. It was the head that told me to make sure I allowed my daughter to take the test, told me that she was borderline and what levels she was at.

I think I have read the same thread as you on an 11plus website, there was another person on there today with the same problem.
Something is not right.

Make an appointment with the head tomorrow if you can and discuss the options with them. They would certainly be my starting point. Hope you get things resolved.

Thanks Slightly

How did it go LL12? Hope you at least got some advice on how to proceed.
DD's class of 35 DCs had 6 pass for Grammars. Given that I know at least 20 of the class were tutored (some for several years), I'd conclude that tutoring does not make the difference between passing the 11+ or not, at least for that class.