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Super child - Part 1 (related to 11 plus)

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mudassar · 01/11/2012 14:45

1 Nov 2012

Super child-Part 1

Imagine the following scenario;

A child is sitting in her class ready to take 11 exam. The teacher distributes the paper and the time starts. She is tensed and has sweaty palms. It will take a good few minutes to control her nerves and overcome sweating. This is followed by the usual nose bleed. By the time the child applies nasal cream and recomposes, good 5 to 10 minutes have passed, say ten mins. It takes the child 30 minutes to complete her paper (her actual speed is normally 25 minutes for 80 Qs) which takes care of first part of her preparation. She spends 5 minutes rechecking the answers in a pre planned priority sequence.

In the last 5 minutes the child attends to the second part of her preparation. She looks at one key question of the paper and commits it into her memory by making a mental ?key? and hooking that key in her brain in a specially trained method. The exercise is repeated several times in these 5 mins although some ?keys? were made during the 30 minute time.

At the end of 50 mins, the students in her class are told to put the pencils down and stop writing. She puts her pencil down and stops writing but does not stop thinking. She has been trained to do so as this is deemed to be within limits. By the time the teacher collects papers and answer sheets from the class, the child has committed 20 questions to her memory including the worded questions. She then engages in normal school activities for the rest of the day (the same process is repeated after 6 days for another test).
Fast forward the above by 9 hours when her father returns home. After dinner he sits with the child and gives her blank sheets of A4 paper. He asks her to ?offload? all ?keys? onto the paper. The father maintains a pin drop silence during this time knowing very well that unlike normal PC down loads, this download exercise can only take place once. After writing the key information, the child tells him that she has only managed to hook 20 keys out of which 5 may be rusty. The father accepts that knowing that ¼ of key questions are sufficient for his purpose.
The child goes away to play and the father looks at the information shown on the paper. He separates the rusty keys and the remaining 15 keys are checked by ?borrowing? selected students a few days later who also took the same test. The analysis concluded that all 15 keys were accurate and in many cases spot on.
The above scenario is a realistic one and the child in picture is my daughter.
I can envisage that there will be mixed type of parents reading this post with mixed reactions (hoping my post goes through the moderators without any problem?).

They may be grouped as;
?Those who do not believe in the above. They may move on to the next post (fair enough but do read Part 2 at a later stage)
?Those who took the DIY route (a route that I took) but stopped at 1st part of the preparation, without spending energies on the second part.
?Those who are curious to know more on this subject.

Wherever you fall within the above groups, there is one thing for sure.
My unusual post is going to leave a print on your mind for many years to come. As a father, I am interested in knowing if anyone out there has planned /experienced or even heard of a similar situation. I would also like to know if an average child can remember more than say 5 questions. Can you imagine what would be the outcome/consequence if was to train say 4 carefully selected super childs?
There will be many questions and I would be happy to see your response to my post.
Part 2 will be equally interesting!
Thanks

OP posts:
legalalien · 02/11/2012 08:10

Well I have the reverse skill - at the moment I exit an exam all memory of its content is completely erased, to the point that I can't even tell people which questions I chose to answer when prompted. Helpfully rules out hours of going over questions in your mind and trying to work out how well you've done.....

seeker · 02/11/2012 08:17

Well, I might be interested. If I understood a word of it. Obviously not a super child. Sadly neither is ds, who failed the 11+ in spectacular style. But who has been known to have nosebleeds.

myBOYSareBONKERS · 02/11/2012 08:18

I am obviously not a super child and am super thick as I don't have a clue what the op is on about. Can someone who has ingested enough omega 3 please explain it to me

EdithWeston · 02/11/2012 08:28

OP is writing fiction, set in a parallel (or mildly futuristic) world, which adopts some references from current world (stressy 11+) but which are actually inaccurate (details of exam administration and likely nature of paper) possibly with intent to unsettle? Or to draw readers in to a story which will develop in quite a different way?

pianomama · 02/11/2012 08:31

Elementary my dear Watson.The nosebleed is down to too much Fish oil and other Omega suppliments which are known to thin blood. An international spy cant afford to have nose bleeds - the world might get blown by the baddies while the super is applying creams to her nostrils.
Back to the drawing board , super father.

IvorHughJackolantern · 02/11/2012 08:37

Part 2 will be equally interesting!

Don't make promises you can't keep Op, this was edge-of-the-seat style facsinating. I don't believe you could achieve this level of amazingly interesting-ness twice.

Unless you're a... Super Poster ? Shock

NotQuintAtAllOhNo · 02/11/2012 08:44

Edith, but which way do you reckon the story will go?

Nosebleed management?
Anxiety counselling?
Finding a way of connecting printers to people through USB?

I am at the edge of my seat here!

mrz · 02/11/2012 08:47

Super child turns out to be an android sent from the future and the nose bleed is really leaking oil ...resulting in her computer brain overloading and self destruction

seeker · 02/11/2012 08:48

There are people called Super Tasters, aren't there?

EdithWeston · 02/11/2012 08:50

I'm not sure I not to predict; rather just enjoy as it unfolds.

But I think I'd be disappointed if there was nothing sinister about the destination school, as a meeting point for similar children. Is the father the Evil Genius, or merely the Cat's Paw?

LeeCoakley · 02/11/2012 08:57

I can't believe I keep coming back to this BUT, to specially train a child to do this must have taken hours and hours, weeks, months. There must be some law against this form of mental abuse. And not just the one child by the sound of it. So is it just the one 'dad' who has 'specially trained' the other 'selected students' or are there already a group of nutjob parents who have been sucked into this? And how long ago did they devise their awful plan? And, again, what's the point? And did all the students have nose-bleeds? Come back mad dad!

ObiWan · 02/11/2012 09:07

The OP has probably just practiced memory mapping with his child, and is carried away by the novelty of it all.

The 11+ seems a spectacularly useless application, but when people think they are the first to stumble across something like this, they can get a bit over enthusiastic.

The bit about nose bleeds and sweaty palms sounds odd though. Admittedly, my older children really enjoy exams and tests (probably because they have no concept of anything important riding on them, and are really competitive).

I mean, if anyone wanted to memorise the 11+, buying past papers and using them for practice would surely be a more straighforward way to go about it.

ThePathanKhansWitch · 02/11/2012 09:24

Mudassar, we await part two. Please don,t leave us in suspenders.

happygardening · 02/11/2012 09:24

"The father accepts that knowing that ¼ of key questions are sufficient for his purpose."

"checked by ?borrowing? selected students a few days later"
Im not usually paranoid but am I the only one who finds these comments rather sinister?

NotQuintAtAllOhNo · 02/11/2012 10:07

The whole post is sinister. Poor child. If this is a real situation, with a real dad behaving like this with is daughter over exams, no wonder she suffers anxiety and nosebleeds. She is 10/11 and not a robot! He must have no empathy, no social skills, and I hope to the powers that be that he does not work in education! I dont think anybody is taking it seriously, the behaviour (the dads) is just too abnormal.

happygardening · 02/11/2012 10:51

NotQuintAtAllOhNo frankly I thought it was some bizarre joke but maybe not.

noblegiraffe · 02/11/2012 16:33

I know absolutely nothing of the 11+. Please can someone explain the benefits of memorising 15 out of 80 questions on a test that has already been sat?

Couldn't super child have just pocketed the test paper?

LeeCoakley · 02/11/2012 16:42

C'mon mad ass I want part 2!!!!!

NellyBluth · 02/11/2012 16:52

Er... what's the point of this, mud?

pianomama · 02/11/2012 16:56

I wonder if he is an enthusiastic follower of :

Mind Maps for Kids

The question remains : why would you?

Bluestocking · 02/11/2012 18:10

C'mon, OP, you're killin' us here. Did you put Part 2 on Netmums?

Gunznroses · 02/11/2012 18:27

OP - I can never find my keys! Are we missing a trick here ? you said ...
" He separates the rusty keys and the remaining 15 keys are checked by ?borrowing? selected students a few days later who also took the same test.

are you infact saying that some students later on sat the same test (having already been given the 15 questions your dd remebered) and lo and behold they came out in the test ? so the whole point of committing these questions to memory really is so that others can cheat ?

eagerbeagle · 02/11/2012 18:29

You're a bit odd.

wanders off to look for wine....
...and malteasers

happygardening · 02/11/2012 18:32

ActuallyI can never find my keys do you think I need to try this.

alcofrolic · 02/11/2012 18:49

The ?borrowed? students must have been super super childs as they downloaded the ?keys? exactly (without any rust) a few days later.

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