Woah! dd2 wasn't allowed a snack at nursery as she refused to say grace

[Vipenid]

I can't believe I nodded sympathetically when they told me this today when I picked dd2 up. 'oh dear' I said 'sorry she's being such a pain'. It wasn't until I got in the car that I thought 'Hold on a minute...refusing to say grace for a SNACK at 3.5...is this really superbrat behaviour??'

she isnt going to the prep school bit (too expensive and we have a nice village school nearby)

the village school is also CofE must ask dd1 if they have to say grace before they get their free bit of fruit and veg in the morning

I suspect not Enid. IME prep schools much more pi than church ones

DD's School is CofE too (and private but lets bypass that bit and they don't say Grace.

Hmmm, they shouldn't be using food as a punsihment imo. Snacks are primarily for nutrition surely?

Mine have already sat a Scripture exam at school. they are 5 and 6, it's to do with funding and is every year.

dh has gone MAD

i'm not surprised enid...i would go spare over this on several counts: overreaction, religion, and witholding food. think it sounds v v off indeed.

"I don't know why you're so uptight about religious schools, they hardly pay any attention to religion at all usually and you're just getting your knickers in a twist about a non-issue."

Is what people say to me when I say that church and school should be separated.

Blimey, it's stories like this that have got my knickers in a bloody twist!

Enid I would be apoplectic.

I would complain so hard, it smacked of litigation
how dare they treat your dd like that

BER-LIMEY
I would be hopping

blimming ridiculous. Poor baby.

eternal damnation

silly rule

mind you sign upf ro a churhc shcoll and what do you expect

I guess it depends what you yourself do when she misbehaves.

Personally I wouldn't have a problem with it. Ds's nursery and PIL say grace and he would be sent away from the table for refusing to comply (can't think he would, he loves parroting it out!). Just like he wouldn't be able to have a snack if he refused to wash his hands.

She broke a rule, they dealt with it. If you don't like the rule then change nurseries.

I have to say anyone denying one of the Inferiorettes a snack would unleash demonic visions immediately

Poor little soul.

agreed. What's the big deal? I can't believe some people are describing themselves as ' apoplectic' etc....rules are rules. And why does it ' send a negative message about God/religion?' it's just a rule being enforced like any other.
No biggie....just calm down some of you.

If it wasn't a church school then it would be out of order but it's not so it isn't.

Personally though I think not allowing the snack is a bit tough but i am a soft touch.

I do think snacks should be non-negotiable for small kids. They need snacks.

denying food as a punishment is way out of order for a 3 year old
that's my view, actually
there are ways of disciplining, but denying food is not appropriate imho

My 3.5 ds2 was not allowed to have his outside playtime at nursery the other day because he was not able to get his (school) coat on. The school coat is a fleece inside a raincoat and has several zips, poppers and velcro bits that even the yr2s struggle with sometimes.

Think the grace thing is too harsh, definitely. Could it be a church school thing? My ds's go to a church school which seemed like a good idea but am begining to wonder.

Something similar happened to dd when she was at playgroup and not quite 3. I was not impressed and said so.

I think Enid's dd is too young to be 'punished' by refusing her food. I do this at home, but public humiliation for such a young child is not on imo.

And of course teh hunger aspect

Aaargh no surely denying food at any age is just not on? Food is a basic human right, you can't say "you can't eat because you've been naughty"

yes
what next
no sleep for you because you haven't said your prayers

Franny, I should have said I deny treats if dd has been naughty, not food or snacks