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Thread 2 - Raise £350 by Christmas

693 replies

Seabright · 19/10/2011 20:32

We are up to 1000 posts on the other thread, so thought I'd start a new one. And also because as of today my feedback rating is 1000 & I now have a red star

Please keep posting, I love this thread; it's so friendly and interesting!

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DinosaursHateUnderpants · 16/11/2011 03:03

mogs0 - so long as you re-list/revise before it was set to be scheduled you'll qualify for free listing if it applies within the ebay T&C at the time you start it.

Crazybit - of course you can join in, the more the merrier:) This thread can go from static to busy in hours, so if you don't get your questions answered soon enough just keep asking! I've tried to answer your questions below:

  • no communication at all about a toddler bed that was to be couriered. Ended up opening a non-payment dispute and having to relist. A: State in your listing that you want it collected and paid for by XX date, send an invoice and a reminder of that info with full address and contact number info and if they've not contacted you by then you can open a NPB (non paying bidder) as you have done - that's what I do.

*Little communication about a collection, only for them to text me yesterday (7 days after the listing had finished) saying they will be here at 4. I replied saying I wont be home till 5, so will they please be able to collect after then. No reply. I text at 4.40 and said I would be home within ten minutes and had a reply saying 'car trouble, they will arrange pick up another time.' I really want rid of this item, how long should i leave it before saying sorry, but you've had more than 7 days, I will need to relist?
A: I would have opened NPB on day 4 (harsh me!) if I'd not already heard from them and got an arranged time for them to collect, so do it now, a message to them before you do it would be polite but putting an expected payment & collection deadline in the listing can help avoid this. Also, when you send the invoice include address and telephone numbers for the buyer and follow up with a message that says when you are/are not generally available for collections.

  • A non-payment, non-communicator from 8 day's ago. The buyer is a newbie, with only 2 feedback so I sent them a nice message towards the end of the week asking them to pay, no reply, so have had to open a non-payer dispute again! A: Try to see your ebay sales as a business and if you can live with not having payment before day 7/8/9 then that's when you open a dispute. Personally I'm with Fergoose (MN ebay aficionado) and I open a NPB dispute at the end of day 4 - that's the soonest ebay lets me do it and if they say that's OK then it's OK with me. TBH most people do pay within 4 or 5 days so don't feel remorseful about opening a NPB on day 4 - it's like a polite reminder from ebay to the buyer that it's now 4 days on and they still haven't paid and if they really want it they need to pay pronto - most buyers do within 24hrs IME.

So...just how long do you give to pay? Then how long after opening a non-payment dispute do you leave before closing the case and relisting?
A: I use the ebay guidelines, so I open a NPB dispute at the end of day 4 (that's the earliest I can) and close it 3 days later (day 7 from auction ending, again the earliest I can do so) if the buyer hasn't paid. It's really dependant upon how comfortable you are with the amount of time it takes people to pay or to wait for your money - if you're quite happy to give them 7 days to pay then do that and close it 3 days after day 7. It will make your life easier if you can reconcile yourself with a definite deadline, be it 4, 7 or 10 days after the auction has ended. I also put that info in my Sellers Payment Instructions on every listing, like this: "Please pay within 4 days - we lodge unpaid items with eBay at the end of day 4."

I realise you can't open a non-payer dispute for 4 days, but do you ever leave it longer?
A: Personally no, as above, I've used ebay guidelines and personally think that 4 days is long enough to pay for something OR to contact me if the buyer genuinely wants 'it'. My exceptions come about only because a buyer has contacted me before day 4 to ask for more time and with a specific payment date, otherwise for me it's day 4, and based solely on my own experience 99.9% of those NPB's pay within 24 hours of opening it :)

DinosaursHateUnderpants · 16/11/2011 03:05

Crikey, that was a long message, I only came on to link to my last 32 listings!

My final listings are here

Tortoise · 16/11/2011 07:35

I have a few watchers and a couple of items with a bid.
A girls blazer that I sold apparently has a tear down a seam. I didn't see it so I've apologised and asked if it is possible to sew up or if they want to return for refund.

MamaPizza · 16/11/2011 09:03

At last! Over a week on and everything has been paid up and I sent out all items. I really admire you who do it on a regular basis. I just like to clear-out before Christmas and DSs birthday and that's about enough stress for me. Got enough money to buy his Christmas presents which is much needed as I am unemployed at the moment.

Dumbledoresgirl · 16/11/2011 09:26

Well, to add to my buyer who says the item does not work (not heard back from them, presume they are sending item back to me as I read on the ebay help page that the buyer can access the seller's address for themselves via ebay) I now have 2 non payers and non communicators! And guess what? both with really low feedback scores.

I had a slow payer the other week (again, with a feedback of 0 or 1), but when I contacted him, he at least told me he was waiting for his paypal account to be verified. He still didn't pay, after a week (how long does it take to set up a paypal account? I have forgotten) and I opened a dispute and he then immediately paid. So, ok, that annoyed me a bit but all's well that ends well.

Now I have these 2 more nonpayers. One with a feedback of 5 but I looked and those transactions took place well over a year ago! I also noticed that, although their feedback shows as 100% positive, they have a negative from a few years ago. Do negatives get ignored after a certain length of time?

The other non payer has a feedback score of 1. Instead of a pound sign on my listing, there is a symbol like an egg timer and when you hover over that, it says "buyer has marked as payment sent". But I only accept payment by paypal and there is no record in paypal of any money having been sent, or pending. So I sent an email asking what this meant and was she having trouble setting up her paypal account (trying to be friendly and helpful) and have heard nothing back. Yet her one feedback shows she paid someone yesterday!

All in all, I am very annoyed by this. I thought you could block buyers until they had a significant record of good feedback, but there is nothing to suggest this on the ebay help page when I ask about blocking buyers.

Dumbledoresgirl · 16/11/2011 09:41

oh one of my non-payers has just paid. Blush They must be a Mner! So that just leaves my nonpayer who somehow thinks they have sent payment even though I have not received it, and who doesn't answer friendly polite emails... Hmm

fergoose · 16/11/2011 09:56

offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?BuyerBlockPreferences

here you can block buyers who don't have a credit card on file, or paypal account and can choose too block if they have had strikes, etc

If it is 4 days since the auction I would start non payer dispute if I were you.

Crazybit · 16/11/2011 11:28

Thanks Dinosaurs for your help.

I'm so cross. I sent a brand new sealed bedguard by courier on Mon, the buyer got it yesterday and has left me neutral feedback saying there is a bit missing. The cow! She didn't even contact me to ask me to sort it out. I can't even respond. My only bad feedback, it is so unfair :(

TeWihara · 16/11/2011 11:37

At what point would you prompt for payment/send an invoice and how do you phrase it? I have 2 sold from the weekend who haven't paid yet...

TeWihara · 16/11/2011 11:38

That's very annoying crazy - I don't know why some people don't bother contacting seller if there is a problem. Surely by far the easiest way to have the issue actually solved?!

fergoose · 16/11/2011 11:42

Crazy - you can leave follow up to the feedback can't you? - say something along the lines of 'I wish you had contacted me first. Complete item was dispatched' or suchlike.

Is it worth emailing the buyer too, say you wish they had contacted you first. Is it worth checking with courier if part is missing, was packaging damaged?

Crazybit · 16/11/2011 11:44

I can't work out how to reply to the feedback. I sent her a snotty enail and she replied apologising, saying she didn't realise it was a bad thing and is new to it. Feel bad now, but grr. I've got the same one so just trying to work out which bit is missing.

fergoose · 16/11/2011 12:05

click on your own feedback score, then at the top click on feedback forum, then on the right click on reply to feedback received

you can also ask the buyer to revise their feedback too.

Crazybit · 16/11/2011 12:44

Thanks Fergoose. She said she has tried to take it off but can't work out to do it. She seems genuinely sorry.

Tortoise · 16/11/2011 12:55

I'm trying to decide if its worth paying to put nerf guns on BIN listings or just list them or wait until free listing again!

notcitrus · 16/11/2011 12:59

crazy - you have to ask for the neg to be removed - use the search in the help centre, and then they get a message asking them to agree to it.
I did that with annoying phone block upthread and he revised his neg to a positive!

Opened a case against fishtank guy, so he's now refusing to send us a tenner to apologise for the inconvenience... Tank and an old oak desk are now on Gumtree - will put on Ebay with BIN if don't sell in a week.

Is there actually any sanction against non-paying bidders? This guy has nearly 500 feedback so rather hoping a case against him will lead to his account being suspended for a bit, but if it just results in a couple points off he's not going to care.

HalleLouja · 16/11/2011 13:14

Apparently a coat I sold has a broken zip. I have asked them to send it back recorded and will see what they said. It only sold for a couple of quid. I don't think it was broken, it was hardly worn....

We will see what they say.

fergoose · 16/11/2011 13:18

Crazy - go here to ask buyer to revise the feedback

pages.ebay.co.uk/help/feedback/revision-request.html

Crazybit · 16/11/2011 13:28

Thanks Fergoose, have done that, she has said sorry and now doesn't want me to sort the parts out, says she can get it from her friends old one Hmm Hopefully she will accept the revision of the feedback.

NC-I wish that there was, it's so crap that you can't leave negative feedback for buyers.

Just want to say, I'm so happy i've found you guys Grin

Dumbledoresgirl · 16/11/2011 13:43

TeWihara, I give buyers 3 days to pay. So if the auction ended on Sunday, give them until this evening/tomorrow morning. Then, I usually send an email along the lines of "are you intending paying for X?" If I don't hear back from them after a couple of days, I then open a dispute through ebay. HTH.

Tortoise · 16/11/2011 14:31

I have 2 items listed that are exactly the same yet one has 12 watchers and the other one has 5!

HalleLouja · 16/11/2011 17:27

Tortoise [hmmm] that is a bit odd. But that is ebay for you.

HalleLouja · 16/11/2011 17:28

Hmm even

Tortoise · 16/11/2011 18:40

Yep, typical ebay! I did say in the listing that I have another set available!

dizzyday07 · 16/11/2011 19:16

I have listed some of DD's outgrown books and some dolly bits that have some watchers! More books to go on later tonight