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39 years stolen by kindness, I don't know where to put my rage or process

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MoonSilverwing · 09/10/2026 23:44

In June I lost 39 years of a partnership, through what turns out to be the crulest kindness I have ever experianced. Not by a bad man, a kind man, a man who loved me in his way as a friend. A man who, after 10 years together, was offered two choices, neither of which would have taken me out of his life.

We had been togther 10 years (since I was 18 and he 23) We had known each other as friends since I was 13 and he 18. At 28 I said I wanted to have children with him. I said I understood if he didn't want children (he'd said as much before) and if that was his choice then I would go to a sperm bank. However if I did the latter, then he and I couldn't be a couple anymore but I would always be his friend and in each other's lives if he still wanted.

He thought about it for a week and then said, ok, lets have kids together. I thought that meant he loved me like I did him. I thought he hung the moon and stars and, I don't know, I never imagined he didn't want that life with me, he said yes right?

Right. Wrong. The kindest man in my life was it turns out a people pleaser. He knew how protective I was of being able to make my own choices in life. He knew, he knew me.

3 children and 2 months off our 39th anniversary together I sat him down to talk. Really talk because he was quiet man. Were there red flags during those years? Absolutely. I thought it was me. why did he never reach for me first, why was it always me? why did he think me carry our child made me unattractive, he never said but I could see it. I thought a man would see the miracle, our child, growing inside me and a man would find that beautiful. So when he didn't, I thought, ok, it's me. I'm not pretty enough, skinny enought (pregnant!) I'm too strong a personality, I'm not loveable enough. Anything as long it was my fault, because the alternative was unthinkable. if I was enough, why wasn't I enough.

I worked, supported the family, paid the bills, not because I wanted to be in control, because he never took notice about that stuff. No one was going to fight for me, or even better, stand by my shoulder and fight with me.

A kind man. A great father, patient, all you could ever wish a father was, that is what he was and still is. I should also say, a very high functioning autistic man. I never knew that for years, I discovered it slowly, so slowly.

The talk. Simple, I asked direct questions about us. What I learnt was this. He thought loving me as a friend was the same as being in love. He never really desired me, I don't think sex ever meant much to him whoever it might have been in his life. When I gave him that choice all those years ago this is what he did. He sat with it. Then he made a the decision that my choice to be a single parent wasn't good and so he agreed to have children with me. He never told me, never indicated anthing at all. he let me believe he wanted it, he wanted us and a future. He didn't, not like that. He is a man that stole at a minimum 29 years of my life and truth to be told 39 years. He is a man who gave up his entire life as well, because he didn't think being a single parent was good. That's it. The whole truth.

I moved into the annex, he helped me. I still support the family, pay the bills. The house is for our kids, that was always the plan. they are high functioning autistic but two are still at home and I need my family to always have a safe place they can just be themselves in. I will continue to do this because that is who I am.

For him, nothing has really changed. The house is there, we live there only I sleep in the annex. I still do my thing and he still educates the youngest. Only difference is my sleeping/living location which is in the garden.

I have so much rage inside me and I have no where to put it. I cannot put it on him. it would be like whipping a puppy. He made a choice because he's a kind man and a people pleaser. I cannot find an outlet but I need one. Something, anything but I'm so full of hurt, rage and I feel like I'm beeing knocked to my knees everyday. I shove myself up and power through, go to work, help others because it's my job and I love it. Then I keep falling to my knees and I'm as so tired of fighting but I don't know how to be anything else after decades of fighting for everyone. I get, go down, get up and all the while the rage consumes me with nowhere to go. All I can do is write it down to release the pressure valve, that is why I'm here.

Not because I think anyone can fix me but because I need some human contact that see's me, after so many decades of not truely being seen I need just one human being to see me and say it's ok. That I'm enough. Not enough for him, I know I'm not, I just want to count somewhere on this earth and know I'm seen.

thank you for listening.

OP posts:
idkbroidk · 10/10/2026 10:41

why the fuck was a 13 year old friends with an 18 year old...? you were groomed

ThatCyanCat · 10/10/2026 10:43

diddl · 10/10/2026 10:31

He really should have walked when faced with that.

She wasn't wrong to say she wanted children so she'd walk if he didn't. What was she meant to do? Stay and be miserably, unwillingly childless? At 29?

But I think it's interesting that she said she'd go and use a donor, not seek another relationship with someone who wanted the same things she did.

Maisymouse2 · 10/10/2026 10:45

Bitsostuff · 10/10/2026 05:01

Nothing was stolen and there are no victims here.
You'll be happier if you own your choices but also give yourself a little grace. There are different ways of loving, and expressing love, and you clearly did love each other. That's not nothing.
It's ok to decide that what's on offer isn't enough, that you want different or more but you can do that without rubbishing what you did have. That will just make you feel bad about yourself.

Yes.
Ive a friend qho beleives he is a unloved victim but refuses to lose a house or pay out...fark that.
Why do you need someone who lacks what you need Op.
You chose to stay in the early years when the majority would of walked.

Imdunfer · 10/10/2026 10:51

idkbroidk · 10/10/2026 10:41

why the fuck was a 13 year old friends with an 18 year old...? you were groomed

I knew a lot of boys 5 years older than me when I was 13. I spent time with them as friends. They were my 5 years older brothers' friends. When I was older I went out with several of them before settling on another of one of my brother's friends who I didn't know until I was 18. He is also 5 years older than me.

It's how many people meet.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 10/10/2026 10:54

ThatCyanCat · 10/10/2026 10:43

She wasn't wrong to say she wanted children so she'd walk if he didn't. What was she meant to do? Stay and be miserably, unwillingly childless? At 29?

But I think it's interesting that she said she'd go and use a donor, not seek another relationship with someone who wanted the same things she did.

That stood out for me, too. OP really just wanted children, not a relationship or marriage back then, and this is what she communicated and what he responded to. I don’t think either of them anticipated that she wanted more, that she would wake up when those children were grown and recognise the void that leaves. i don't think either of them are necessarily to ‘blame’ with the stage of life and marriage they have reached. Even in great marriages this phase is hugely impactful leaving many post menopausal women floundering.

Counselling would be really helpful - as would some independent travel to help work out who she is and what she wants. I can also highly recommend Italy for that!

Imdunfer · 10/10/2026 10:55

Maisymouse2 · 10/10/2026 10:45

Yes.
Ive a friend qho beleives he is a unloved victim but refuses to lose a house or pay out...fark that.
Why do you need someone who lacks what you need Op.
You chose to stay in the early years when the majority would of walked.

Edited

You chose to stay in the early years when the majority would of walked.

Can you see from what she has written why she made that decision at that time?

I feel for her regretting it in retrospect but at the time she chose stability, dependability, trustworthiness and a good provider for her family.

Things many women on this forum would give their eye teeth for.

wizzywig · 10/10/2026 10:56

Op, do you regret your kids? Im sure you dont. Hold on to that. You did gain something precious from this.

AllTheToddlers · 10/10/2026 10:56

I hear you as I’m just realising the same thing now. I have never been desired or wanted and he just stayed as it was easier and he couldn’t cope on his own. Cares for me but doesn’t truly love me or interested in me.

Have an amazing holiday and build up your hobbies and things your enjoy and find tour self again

UltimateSloth · 10/10/2026 10:59

This great love affair you think you've been cheated of - it doesn't exist. Or at least very rarely. Most men aren't capable of it, at least in the long term and that's just the way it is. Stop with the navel gazing, your marriage is no worse than most people's of your stage of life.

OrdinaryGirl · 10/10/2026 11:01

Bitsostuff · 10/10/2026 05:01

Nothing was stolen and there are no victims here.
You'll be happier if you own your choices but also give yourself a little grace. There are different ways of loving, and expressing love, and you clearly did love each other. That's not nothing.
It's ok to decide that what's on offer isn't enough, that you want different or more but you can do that without rubbishing what you did have. That will just make you feel bad about yourself.

Very wise words here ⬆️

Seconding those who have strongly recommended seeing a therapist who will help you process all of this in a safe, supported, positive environment and help you get to a better place with it all.

Wishing you well, OP. Sending all best vibes for a bright future filled with the kind of love you want and need 💐

Edited to add: a therapist will also help you develop your instincts and willingness to trust them, so you can avoid a situation like this arising in the future too.

Eastofexodus · 10/10/2026 11:02

There is a long running support thread on MN @MoonSilverwing Married to Someone with ASD/Aspergers/Autism

I think it could be very useful for you to explore. You will get to see first hand how other women have found themselves in similar situations with similar outcomes to you @MoonSilverwing and you will get the benefit of getting a voice in your experience.

LowlandLucky · 10/10/2026 11:04

After 10 years together you must have known exactly what he was like, after all you asked him to have children with you. You got exactly what you asked for You have both had a lovely life together, raised 3 children and looked after each other, Why do you feel your life has been stolen? I think the best place for you is therapy followed by a few flings .

researchers3 · 10/10/2026 11:15

BrickMaker · 10/10/2026 03:36

It must have been devastating to hear what he said to you. But he didn't steal 39 years of your life, nor you his. He gave you 3 children, companionship, love, security and stability. The most passionate sexual chemistry I ever had with anyone was the most violent relationship of my life. Life is not like the movies and most of the married couples I know are in coparenting friendships with a bit of sex thrown in if the guy feels like it (and often he doesn't care much). You need to grieve what was lost but appreciate what you do have. And go out and start meeting other men.

Not sure random men, or any man, is going to br the answer.

UserName00747 · 10/10/2026 11:17

UltimateSloth · 10/10/2026 10:59

This great love affair you think you've been cheated of - it doesn't exist. Or at least very rarely. Most men aren't capable of it, at least in the long term and that's just the way it is. Stop with the navel gazing, your marriage is no worse than most people's of your stage of life.

This great love affair you think you've been cheated of - it doesn't exist. Or at least very rarely. Most men or women aren't capable of it,

Fixed that for you

CinnamonJellyBeans · 10/10/2026 11:23

He has given you the best of himself.

As PP have said: If you wish to end your marriage, as it is not enough now, for you, that's fair enough. But you have been cherished for 40 years by another human being. And that is a precious gift, no matter who the man.

BeurialJimberley · 10/10/2026 11:24

Mapletree1985 · 10/10/2026 06:10

What is it that you are so angry about? He gave you everything you wanted that he was capable of giving.

Agreed. Sounds like you’ve built a good, loving family together. What are you so angry about? That he’s not into sex or passionate love?

EdithBond · 10/10/2026 11:26

Bitsostuff · 10/10/2026 05:01

Nothing was stolen and there are no victims here.
You'll be happier if you own your choices but also give yourself a little grace. There are different ways of loving, and expressing love, and you clearly did love each other. That's not nothing.
It's ok to decide that what's on offer isn't enough, that you want different or more but you can do that without rubbishing what you did have. That will just make you feel bad about yourself.

Agree.

Strongly suggest you have therapy. This should help shift your framing, from seeing yourself as a victim to someone with agency who’s responsible for the decisions you make. And, kindly, maybe having a tendency to have a romantic ideal of how life could be.

The relationship sounds a bit iffy from the start. Maybe grooming, dependency and abuse? At 18, he was interested in being friends with a 13yo? Then it became sexual but he didn’t want children with you. But you didn’t accept that and gave him an ultimatum: him or a sperm donor. Why not move on and find someone who was sure about a family with you?

You stuck with him even though he made you feel undesirable and unvalued. You need to unpack why. But you gave your kids a stable family life. Most decades-long relationships don’t remain all passion and desire. They’re mainly good friendships with passion coming and going over the years. Relationships that are all passion and no friendship don’t tend to last.

Now your kids are grown you want to find passion and desire in a relationship. Lots of people want that in middle age. They come out the other end of parenting and want to live for themselves again. He can’t give you that. So you move on and keep him as a friend. But the most important thing is feeling happy alone, rather than looking for happiness via a relationship.

Why are you in the annex? Do you want to be there? Do you equally share household tasks or are you effectively his housekeeper?

Going away by yourself is a great idea. Might help you realise how liberating it is to only have to think about yourself and do your own thing. You don’t have to always serve others, especially when they don’t reciprocate by making you feel appreciated, special and wanted.

Have a great time and get therapy when you get back 💐

Orangesandlemons77 · 10/10/2026 11:27

LowlandLucky · 10/10/2026 11:04

After 10 years together you must have known exactly what he was like, after all you asked him to have children with you. You got exactly what you asked for You have both had a lovely life together, raised 3 children and looked after each other, Why do you feel your life has been stolen? I think the best place for you is therapy followed by a few flings .

I'm autistic and I found the OPs post confusing. There was a long time to find out as mentioned here.

It seems the OP is 'punishing' him for his autism, dramatically moving out to the outbuilding etc.

But there seems to be no consideration of how he might feel - also she mentioned about his feelings during pregnancy. He's not alone, I too found pregnancy difficult.

I don't understand why, if she wanted someone different, she didn't go for someone else instead of him?

Maybe some sort of counselling might be needed. As the DC are also autistic, is she similar towards them or more 'forgiving' of their autism.

Soontobe60 · 10/10/2026 11:32

Wotsupmog · 10/10/2026 07:54

Nobody stole anything. You made a less than ideal choice of partner, but you have your children, a home and a partner who cares about you and the children . Much more than many women. And you can leave if you choose.

This ⬆️ says it all.
Relationships change. It’s unusual for both people to want exactly the same thing after almost 40 years! I believe that more couples would be able to stay together if they slept in different rooms - me and DH often sleep apart and spend time in different rooms at home. It doesn’t mean we don’t love each other! You seem to have a very Mills and Boon idea of what a relationship is like when you’re in your 60s. Companionship is more important than people think - it’s not all sex and hugs and saying you love each other. That’s just words that anyone can say, like ‘please’ and ‘thank you’.
How old are your children?

Lhori · 10/10/2026 11:36

It sounds like when you were younger, you projected a lot of what you wanted him to be onto him and he was never those things.

Your husband doesn't sound like a people pleaser or that he just didn't want you to be a single parent. It sounds like he didn't want to lose you and struggles to understand his own emotions I also wouldn't get too upset about not finding you attractive when pregnant. I'm not sure that many men find heavily pregnant women that attractive but that is the difference between marriage and a fling, you want to be with the person even when they are pregnant, ill, old etc. It doesn't mean you have to find them sexually desirable all the time. Life is not a romance novel, you have to be a bit realistic.

Maybe you are not suited to each other, but I don't think either of you are at fault.

katepilar · 10/10/2026 11:44

StrugglingAlong75 · 10/10/2026 01:59

I wonder whether it would help you to find out about Cassandra Syndrome? It refers to the long-term effects of the emotional deprivation that comes from living with an autistic partner. Mark Hutten has lots of videos on YouTube.

It sounds like your husband loved you as much as he was able, though not in the way that you needed. I'm sorry it's been so hard.

You are enough though. Just as you are.

Thanks, I have looked that up. Looks like I have stuff to learn.

UltimateSloth · 10/10/2026 11:48

UserName00747 · 10/10/2026 11:17

This great love affair you think you've been cheated of - it doesn't exist. Or at least very rarely. Most men or women aren't capable of it,

Fixed that for you

True. But in this case the person the OP has issue with is a man. She isn't thinking about her own capabilities, although perhaps she should.

diddl · 10/10/2026 12:15

ThatCyanCat · 10/10/2026 10:43

She wasn't wrong to say she wanted children so she'd walk if he didn't. What was she meant to do? Stay and be miserably, unwillingly childless? At 29?

But I think it's interesting that she said she'd go and use a donor, not seek another relationship with someone who wanted the same things she did.

A man who, after 10 years together, was offered two choices, neither of which would have taken me out of his life.

So they would have stayed together if Op had used a donor?

Of course Op wasn't meant to stay & be miserable.

She wanted him & his kids which is what she got!

Aluna · 10/10/2026 12:25

I’m sorry but i find his narrative laughable.

You gave him an ultimatum at 28 which a lot of men give: kids or it’s over. You said it was fine if he didn’t want kids you’d have then anyway. You gave the example of a sperm bank but at that age it’s much more likely you’d have ended up with someone else.

Which he was very aware of. He thought about it, decided he didn’t want to lose you to another man and committed to having kids.

So now he’s saying he never wanted it, never fancied you, didn’t want kids, it was all you etc is just a standard script for middle age men fed up with their marriages. I’ve heard it many many times before. Most don’t have the gall to bill the marriage as a chore entirely for their wife’s benefit: that takes a special brand of narcissism.

Don’t believe his knight in shining bullshit act.

AIiswatchingyou · 10/10/2026 12:30

I don't understand you.

You wanted the moon and the stars and you're complaining that you only got the moon, and it wasn't bright enough and that it waxes and wanes, as a moon does.

You pressured him into doing things you knew he didn't want and now you're complaining that despite him giving in to you he didn't give enough. It sounds like he gave all he could give - but you seem to be someone who is always looking for more and more.

This idea of romantic love is just an idea. You have been given nearly 40 years of a practical love, a meaningful love, companionship, partnership - why do you not value that?

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