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Husband wants to leave me, but I have 3 under 4!

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Gnarly999 · 10/02/2025 14:33

This is my first post, but I’m exploding and don’t want to talk to my friends as it makes it all “too real”, so hoping I can talk on here..
I have a 6 month old, 2 and 4 year old, and really struggle to cope. My husband travels a lot for work which has been really difficult and our marriage has died. I’ve been resentful and probably not very nice to him, but all I really wanted was for him to show me some love and affection and to put our family first, and be here more. I was lonely and struggling and needed him.
After a few months of arguing he says he wants to leave me!! I’m devastated on every level. He says he loves me like a sister but not a wife, doesn’t fancy me (I’m still fairly attractive I think). Says he can’t live like this and needs to focus on his work (we easily have enough money anyway). He’s also bringing up arguments from 15 years ago and replaying every negative thing that’s happened between us!
I’ve begged him to stay and to try and at least to wait until the kids are a bit older. I actually don’t know how I’d cope. I’m a SAHM, and feel completely hopeless.
what should I do? Fight for him to stay and to make it work? Or get some self respect and tell him to leave?
I just don’t think I’d ever get over this, and my heart feels broken for the children too. I can’t stop crying. Help!!

OP posts:
justasking111 · 11/02/2025 23:28

He's away so much he's already detached from his children. A good father would have come home to tuck them in. My husband and my sons, their children are the centre of their world.

My friends husband works all over the world. I've been at their home when Daddy calls up and they face time. The laptop on the kitchen counter whilst they all chat away about their day.

everychildmatters · 12/02/2025 00:55

@justasking111 And what if working away is a requirement of his job? The one he's doing as sole earner in his large family?
It really isn't as simple as "coming home to tuck the kids in" every evening.
I don't work from home at all - my job isn't compatible with it - and of course some days I am myself unable to put my little one to bed, as much as I'd like to. But as a decent parent/Mum I am making sure she has a warm roof over her head and food in her belly. I also hope I'm modelling a good/fair work ethic to her and both my older sons as well.

GravyBoatWars · 12/02/2025 01:00

I don't subscribe to the "if a man wants to end a relationship he must be having an affair" mumsnet trope and I'm utterly sick of posters assuming women in the workplace are only there to try to poach husbands or be preyed on. I think it all perpetuates gendered stereotypes and rock-bottom expectations for men, honestly. Plus I travel weekly for work in a male-dominated industry and if my husband ever spoke to or about me with the level of suspicion and outright disrespect many women use on here we'd be done.

I know focusing on the (very real) possibility he's cheating bolstered by random people's assertions that he must be is tempting - it invites you to lean in torightous anger, which is a much more appealing emotion than sadness and grief. But I think it's a bit of a red herring - the reality is that regardless of whether he's cheating your DH sounds completely checked out, angry at the mere idea that you might have any sort of needs or feelings, and unwilling to do any sort of relationship work whatsoever. You don't need to speculate about that, you know it. That would be absolutely intolerable for me in a marriage - any attempt to repair things when your partner is like that will just involve you contorting yourself trying to persuade them to care, or trying to force yourself to need and expect nothing from them whatsoever. You don't have to close the door on the marriage if you're not ready, but please try to work yourself towards a mindset of "here are the changes that that I need in order to be willing to stay in this relationship" rather than "how can I convince him to stay?" The latter is just a route to protracted misery.

GravyBoatWars · 12/02/2025 01:32

And the MIL thing...

I will be honest that I absolutely cringed at the idea of you attempting to go through his mother in hopes that she'd pressure him into XYZ. That's really not ok, and honestly I can't blame him for being angry about it. But it's a sign that you know how little interest he has in your feelings and working on anything with you - it's an absolutely desperate move that reflects how bad things have been for a while now.

It's fine for you MIL to be encouraging reconciliation right now, but as others have said remember a) that she's his mum and at the end of the day it's her job to support him and b) there is no path to a healthy relationship that goes through his mum. So don't lean on her emotionally, don't share anything with her that you aren't planning to tell your DH directly, and don't let her start working on you under the guise of neutrality. She can't make him care about you and the relationship any more than you can and he has to care or any "working things out" will be you rearranging deck chairs on the titanic.

IVbumble · 12/02/2025 07:18

It sounds like he is painting a picture of you to everyone else that you are 'crazy', hormonal, a nag, with a lack of understanding etc etc and yet you are none of these things.

You just can't win with him because he doesn't want it to work. You're putting all your energy & effort in the wrong place.

Give all the love you have for him to yourself & your DC - you will find a way & without all his false allegations about you it's likely that you will begin to find your happiness again instead of being in this FOG situation that he is responsible for.

It might be wise to check out The Freedom Programme as there is sure to be other ways that he is abusive to you & if he's abusive to you he's also abusive to your DC.

BustyLaRoux · 12/02/2025 07:39

Gnarly999 · 11/02/2025 21:56

You’re right, he really is an ar**hole these days. To me and the kids. I think it’s the stress of the job and life that turns I’m into this, he’s just not coping well at all. Honestly if it wasn’t for the kids or being married I’d leave him, but I really don’t want to break our family up.

We’ve been together since our mid twenties and we’re 40 now, so there’s many many years when he was a great guy, genuinely one of the best people I’ve met. I just don’t know what’s happened to him. Surely he’s still in there somewhere. I think I have too much empathy, but I think he’s a bit depressed with life, so could hopefully forgive this horrible treatment in years to come.

Ultimately I really do believe in my marriage vows, if he’d stay, I’d work through it all with him. I think these are just our darkest days that we can get though. I really hope so.

Although it is inspiring to hear how many people have split and are thriving because of it! You’re giving me hope either way! Thank you! And well done you guys for being so strong and for dealing with so much! It’s impressive! At the same time it’s awful to think of how many woman all over the world have been treated like this and felt like I feel now, it’s just not fair is it!

With every post you make, he sounds worse and worse! If he isn’t already having an affair with this woman, then he’s thought about it a lot and clearly wants to. He is wanking in the kitchen thinking about her most probably while you’re feeding his baby upstairs, spending money on Only Fans accounts, choosing to spend time taking the woman home instead of prioritising saying good night to his kids whom he’s not seen for days. He does shots with her in a bar. But hasn’t got time to call you for two mins to say hello. And worst of all, he gaslights you into believing you are the problem. I really wish you would stop making excuses for him. He isn’t a good guy. He isn’t depressed. He wants to fuck about (literally) and pretend like he doesn’t have a family. And is giving you the script about it being your fault, he doesn’t fancy you, he’s working hard and you don’t understand. He’s beyond reproach OP. You sound so lovely! You deserve much much better than this awful man.

LoganberryWay · 12/02/2025 08:32

BustyLaRoux · 12/02/2025 07:39

With every post you make, he sounds worse and worse! If he isn’t already having an affair with this woman, then he’s thought about it a lot and clearly wants to. He is wanking in the kitchen thinking about her most probably while you’re feeding his baby upstairs, spending money on Only Fans accounts, choosing to spend time taking the woman home instead of prioritising saying good night to his kids whom he’s not seen for days. He does shots with her in a bar. But hasn’t got time to call you for two mins to say hello. And worst of all, he gaslights you into believing you are the problem. I really wish you would stop making excuses for him. He isn’t a good guy. He isn’t depressed. He wants to fuck about (literally) and pretend like he doesn’t have a family. And is giving you the script about it being your fault, he doesn’t fancy you, he’s working hard and you don’t understand. He’s beyond reproach OP. You sound so lovely! You deserve much much better than this awful man.

All of this with bells on.

I'm sorry OP. x

icantgetnosheep1 · 12/02/2025 09:15

@BustyLaRoux has summed it up well here, you are not his priority and you really need to wise up quick sharp.

Woodenbeams · 12/02/2025 09:19

just read your update @Gnarly999. the clincher for me is driving her home instead of coming home to his kids.

That spells affair more even than drinking in the bar with her.

He cares about her more than seeing his kids. He’d rather spend an extra 50 minutes with his colleague than his family.

also - on the MIL thing, I also tried to go through MIL to get through to exDH. I totally understand. I agree with other posters that you shouldn’t confide in her- she will take her son’s side.

But do stay friendly with her. Your ex will try to alienate you from her. Don’t rise to it.

nodramaplz · 12/02/2025 09:29

I'm sorry you're going through this.
If it was me, as much as it killed me I'd let him go.
I would not want anyone to stay with me that didn't want to be there.
If he's away most of the time, then you must be doing most of the childcare alone anyway. Only difference being he will take then hopefully when he's home, giving you time to recharge.
Have you any other help?

Financially, I'm not sure how you would proceed, I've always worked, I'm on my third baby and will still go back to work, my work is my independence and I'll give that up for no one or no man, no matter what. I've always a couple of pounds in my savings for a rainy day. I would feel claustrophobic if I didn't have an escape plan.
I've a good man & great kids and hope to never need to escape, but life taught me to always expect the unexpected.

Women are stronger than you think. You will get over it, if you think there is a chance he still loves you, if he says he does, try to make it work!
If he is still saying he loves you like a sister but is not in love with you, there is no point OP.
Trying to keep someone that doesn't love you just won't work.
If he provides financially & takes the children then this will help you a lot.
Good luck 🍀
I wish you all the best x

BiggySwish · 12/02/2025 09:31

Morning @Gnarly999

I hope you got some rest and are taking care of yourself today.

I’ve read your updates, and I want to offer some reflections as an outsider. This is said with kindness and I hope I’m wrong, but you need to take him at his word and, more importantly, at his actions.

He has told you he wants out.
His actions confirm he wants out.
It’s clear he began to emotionally check out probably when DC1 arrived and he struggled to adjust to parenting, not being the centre of attention and having to prioritise others.

He justifies his work absences by claiming he’s “supporting the family,” but the truth is, he could work less, earn less, and be more present if he wanted to. He makes no concerted effort to contact you or his kids while he’s away and appears resentful and uninterested when you contact him. His behaviour shows that out of sight, you and the kids are out of mind.

I work away a lot - I will always make time to FaceTime or call even for a minute because it’s important to me to support my spouse while I’m away and to be as connected to my children as possible. His actions prove he doesn’t care. Giving a colleague a ride home instead of seeing his children? That speaks volumes. He does not miss them when he’s gone, and he is not invested in them.

He has explicitly told you he does not love you, does not desire you, and does not want to have sex with you. He has no regard for how this impacts you. Instead, he pays for other women’s bodies to meet his needs, while completely disregarding yours. This is not just disrespectful- it’s a deliberate and clear physical rejection of you.

He has made his choice about this relationship—every day, and it is for himself, not for you, not for your family. He is so focussed on himself and his own needs, he has no empathy or interest in how you’re coping, doesn’t consider what you need, and has no interest in making adjustments. He expects support from you but offers none in return.

His selfishness is absolute. He does not listen to you, does not care about your feelings, and has no interest in your happiness. He has not tried to work through his unhappiness with you. He does not want to fix this. He would rather throw money at a nanny to buy his freedom than face up to his responsibilities.

In his self absorption he has lost respect for you. When you present logical, reasonable concerns, he dismisses them—but listens to his mother instead. That tells you everything: (1) Your concern was valid, and (2) He has zero respect for you or your opinions.

You have minimal time together, yet he rejects every opportunity to reconnect. When you are together, do you talk? Do you laugh? Do you make plans for the future? I suspect not.

You fear losing your family unit, but ask yourself—do you really have one other than on paper? A healthy family unit relies on teamwork, emotional presence, and shared commitment. He is not mentally present, often not physically present, not engaged, and not invested. You may not be losing as much as you think.

Honestly, I think you only want to stay ‘for the kids,’ but that only works when both parents can function as a team. Right now, you are a team of one. If he says he’ll stay, you must ask yourself: on what terms can you truly accept this? Unless he takes ownership of his behaviours and radically changes, can you build a life where your emotional, social, and sexual needs are met elsewhere? Because he is making it abundantly clear he will not meet them.

Flowers bloom where they are watered. For whatever reason—stress, resentment, dissatisfaction, another woman—he has not tended his relationship with you or his family. And now, it has withered. Instead, he pours his energy into work, his work relationships, and porn. Those are his priorities.

If he is planning to end it on Valentine’s Day (you couldn’t make it up), you need to be ready. Maybe his mother will convince him to “try,” but unless he wants to, it will fall apart.

People change significantly between mid twenties and 40, neither of you are the same people you were. You may find some of these behaviours and coping mechanisms were apparent before kids but were less of an issue and you were able to put more focus on him to smooth them over.

You already know you deserve better. You and your children deserve to be cherished, supported, and prioritised. The man you loved has gone. He has failed you. That is not your failure—it is his. Life will be hard, but it will be healthier without the constant erosion of your self-worth.

I’m truly wishing you strength. Take back your power 💕

KnickerlessParsons · 12/02/2025 09:50

Volunteer to leave him, with the children.
Ie you leave him and the children in the house and you move out. See how he likes them apples!
(I'm not suggesting you should leave your DCs - he won't accept your offer anyway, but it'll make him think).

SabreToothTigerLilly · 12/02/2025 09:52

Gnarly999 · 11/02/2025 21:23

Also, just to respond to the thing about “he’s checked out for family life”. Yes it does feel like that, but confusingly and very hurtful the said the other day “I’m not leaving them, I’m leaving you”, but that’s makes no sense!! Arghhh!!!

OMG they really do come pre-programmed with 'the script' don't they, word for bloody word. Of course he's leaving the children (or did I miss the bit where he said he'd be taking the children with him). My ExH said the exact same thing to me. It's almost as if he was saying that it was my fault that he wouldn't be there for the kids any more.

With every update you post, your husband sounds more vile.

As others have said - beware of the MIL. Mine was like my best friend and wanted to march into my ExH's office to tell the OW exactly what she thought of her. Of course three months later they were all enjoying Christmas dinner together. Blood will always be thicker than water and her priorities are likely to be her son, her grandchildren, her access to her grandchildren and then you, in that order.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 12/02/2025 11:12

I was orginally in the "get couples counselling and hang in there" camp but given the updates (which are quite shocking) that seems like terrible advice.
i echo what @BiggySwish says.

The not bothering to contact you or the kids when working away and farting about driving his female coworker to avoid seeing them before bed clearly shows he is lookinh to leave the kids too.

Don't doubt yourself.

Hollietree · 12/02/2025 14:03

BiggySwish · 12/02/2025 09:31

Morning @Gnarly999

I hope you got some rest and are taking care of yourself today.

I’ve read your updates, and I want to offer some reflections as an outsider. This is said with kindness and I hope I’m wrong, but you need to take him at his word and, more importantly, at his actions.

He has told you he wants out.
His actions confirm he wants out.
It’s clear he began to emotionally check out probably when DC1 arrived and he struggled to adjust to parenting, not being the centre of attention and having to prioritise others.

He justifies his work absences by claiming he’s “supporting the family,” but the truth is, he could work less, earn less, and be more present if he wanted to. He makes no concerted effort to contact you or his kids while he’s away and appears resentful and uninterested when you contact him. His behaviour shows that out of sight, you and the kids are out of mind.

I work away a lot - I will always make time to FaceTime or call even for a minute because it’s important to me to support my spouse while I’m away and to be as connected to my children as possible. His actions prove he doesn’t care. Giving a colleague a ride home instead of seeing his children? That speaks volumes. He does not miss them when he’s gone, and he is not invested in them.

He has explicitly told you he does not love you, does not desire you, and does not want to have sex with you. He has no regard for how this impacts you. Instead, he pays for other women’s bodies to meet his needs, while completely disregarding yours. This is not just disrespectful- it’s a deliberate and clear physical rejection of you.

He has made his choice about this relationship—every day, and it is for himself, not for you, not for your family. He is so focussed on himself and his own needs, he has no empathy or interest in how you’re coping, doesn’t consider what you need, and has no interest in making adjustments. He expects support from you but offers none in return.

His selfishness is absolute. He does not listen to you, does not care about your feelings, and has no interest in your happiness. He has not tried to work through his unhappiness with you. He does not want to fix this. He would rather throw money at a nanny to buy his freedom than face up to his responsibilities.

In his self absorption he has lost respect for you. When you present logical, reasonable concerns, he dismisses them—but listens to his mother instead. That tells you everything: (1) Your concern was valid, and (2) He has zero respect for you or your opinions.

You have minimal time together, yet he rejects every opportunity to reconnect. When you are together, do you talk? Do you laugh? Do you make plans for the future? I suspect not.

You fear losing your family unit, but ask yourself—do you really have one other than on paper? A healthy family unit relies on teamwork, emotional presence, and shared commitment. He is not mentally present, often not physically present, not engaged, and not invested. You may not be losing as much as you think.

Honestly, I think you only want to stay ‘for the kids,’ but that only works when both parents can function as a team. Right now, you are a team of one. If he says he’ll stay, you must ask yourself: on what terms can you truly accept this? Unless he takes ownership of his behaviours and radically changes, can you build a life where your emotional, social, and sexual needs are met elsewhere? Because he is making it abundantly clear he will not meet them.

Flowers bloom where they are watered. For whatever reason—stress, resentment, dissatisfaction, another woman—he has not tended his relationship with you or his family. And now, it has withered. Instead, he pours his energy into work, his work relationships, and porn. Those are his priorities.

If he is planning to end it on Valentine’s Day (you couldn’t make it up), you need to be ready. Maybe his mother will convince him to “try,” but unless he wants to, it will fall apart.

People change significantly between mid twenties and 40, neither of you are the same people you were. You may find some of these behaviours and coping mechanisms were apparent before kids but were less of an issue and you were able to put more focus on him to smooth them over.

You already know you deserve better. You and your children deserve to be cherished, supported, and prioritised. The man you loved has gone. He has failed you. That is not your failure—it is his. Life will be hard, but it will be healthier without the constant erosion of your self-worth.

I’m truly wishing you strength. Take back your power 💕

Edited

This is a great post - as an outsider this is exactly what I see too from what you have posted…. Put more eloquently than I could.

I know you have said that you don’t want the marriage to end and so don’t think you can end the marriage yourself. But I really think for your own self worth that you need to steal his thunder before Friday - and his likely breakup announcement on Valentine’s Day 🤯 and tell him to fuck the hell off.

I hate to say it but when these men bugger off with their “mental breakdowns” it’s always around a big event - Christmas, Valentine’s Day etc………. likely an ultimatum from a third party “I’m not going to be your OW for another Valentine’s Day - you either leave your wife before Friday or I’m gone.”

Twaddlepip · 12/02/2025 14:33

Oh this man is real scum.

Golow · 12/02/2025 16:29

Saying he'll just get a nanny to replace you in shows how little he values or respects you do as a SAHM. That'd be unforgivable for me.

JimHalpertsWife · 12/02/2025 16:44

The fact that you probably would divorce if you didn't have the kids is telling you what you ought to do.

He is the one breaking the family up not you.

SabreToothTigerLilly · 12/02/2025 17:23

@Gnarly999 How are you doing today OP? Hope you're as okay as you possibly can be in these situations.

Gnarly999 · 12/02/2025 18:11

@BiggySwish thank you for this thoughtful response, very helpful! And to everyone else too - honestly had no idea how helpful this would be when I posted!

Update on today, given DH stayed with his parents last night I said he should take the older DCs and then take them to nursery in the morning and MiL had them in the afternoon. My closest friend basically forced me to go visit her (with DC3 of course), a pretty long train ride, which seemed impossible, given I’d been breaking down in tears at random intervals since Saturday and completely falling apart. But I’m so glad she did. She booked us a nice lunch and i shared a lot, maybe 70%, didn’t tell her he said he’s potentially leaving though, I couldn’t bring myself to say it out loud. But I do feel so much better!

I was walking back to the train station while DC3 slept and even had this empowering moment when I was thinking of all your messages, thinking I perhaps should just tell him to do one. That actually I will still have a life and we don’t need him anyway.

It’s a real rollercoaster isn’t it!

Not heard from him. He didn’t reply to the MIL message in our WhatsApp group, even though she asked for a reply. Presume he’s cross with her too. I messaged replaying to that, a fairly long message, essentially saying please can we fight for this. No reply. Since then I’ve resisted the urge to call or text him. It’s actually been very helpful having this thread, because when I go to check my phone, I check for updates here as opposed to seeing if he’s bothered to think about me at all.

It’s really depressing that he’s not even checked in at all to see if I’m okay, given what a state I’ve been in. If it was the other way around I’d be really worried about him, especially if he had sole care of a baby too!

OP posts:
MrsPeterHarris · 12/02/2025 18:17

He's showing you exactly who he is Op, sadly you need to believe him.

As awful as this is right now, in time you'll look back & realise how strong you are & how much better off you are without him.

Good luck though as I'm not downplaying how tough this will be.

BettyBardMacDonald · 12/02/2025 18:23

Don't beg him. It'll just be a turnoff to him and you'll kick yourself later for not maintaining your dignity.

Don't give him such power over the rest of your life. He's not worth it. Get your ducks in a row for divorce and for resuming your career. Focus on logistics. Time is of the essence and every moment spent mooning over that disloyal oaf will cost you in the long run.

SabreToothTigerLilly · 12/02/2025 18:27

Sorry @Gnarly999 you are not the one who should be fighting for your marriage - he is! The awful way that he's treated you.

Please don't beg, it will destroy your self worth and would you really want him back because you begged him to fight for your marriage?

Please tell him that it's over. You will parent 50/50 in the future. You can then judge by his reaction whether he's actually wanting to save this marriage - whether that news is relief to him or whether it's a wake up call.

SnakebitesandSambucas · 12/02/2025 18:27

It all sounds so awful and stressful. But it's good to know you have support in real life as well as on here. You can't change people unfortunately. But you can take control of the situation as best you can.

Windmill34 · 12/02/2025 18:53

OP
I know how much you want people to hear your story, the more people you confide in the more answer's to your questions are getting answered
I get it 👍 but your choosing to not listen to the right advice especially on here.
from those that it’s happened too, from those that see big red flags .

we all know you want your marriage to work
you are saying “ if it was just me, I’d be gone”
Its the children
This is going to sound really harsh, but he shows already his children are not his priority.
He doesn’t even check up on them 😡😡😡
either when away or at his mothers!!! Why
because he has to speak to YOU first
He doesn’t want that - do you see that ?
He doesn’t interact with their daily life
Infact their too much for him, he can’t wait to escape from them

Now to You
He can’t be arsed to communicate with you either at home so being away is a godsend to him because he doesn’t have to communicate with you , hence that’s why he gets angry when YOU contact him.
He doesn’t want a sexual relationship,
please come-on and get some self respect and self esteem, do not beg him
If your daughter told you what you are writing here what would you say to her ???

Unfortunately and I’m sorry
He checked out months ago, has zero empathy for you because his needs are more important
He’s no remorse, that’s why he carry’s on saying & doing as he wants
He can’t be arsed to even speak let alone see them, when he’s been away for a few days
No he goes to his mothers !!

Im sorry, but do this for your self and children
YOU GET RID OFF HIM !
Do not give him the choice of getting in first
cheeky fucker He will let you know his decision on Friday
Is that when he finds out from OW

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