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Ex Partner wants to buy me out - help!!

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brookgreenmum · 29/11/2024 18:32

Hello all. I was on here some years ago but took a break. Things have changed somewhat, relationship broke down and I'm in a bit of a panic now, looking for opinions really if anyone has had similar circumstances.

Unmarried, together 19 years, two children 17, 14. Separation back in June, he moved out to give me space.

Now he's back in contact, wants to buy me out, reasonable offer about 85% of the actual equity share if we sold it. He paid the mortgage and bills for the whole time and the deposit. House owned jointly 50/50 and I am on the mortgage.

I'm not in a bad position, earn excess of 50k pa, we have approx 200k of equity. I know having the children gives me some power, but the income and equity means I doubt i'll be able to convince a court to stay on till the kids are 18 or so.

Fighting it in court would be at least 15k if I lost according to advice. Friends tell me to fight!

What would people do in this situation? I couldn't go out and buy again in this area, renting is possible. I am really stressed now, losing sleep and hair - didn't think about this tbh, focussed on the kids and thought it'll sort itself out.

Thankyou!

OP posts:
brookgreenmum · 30/11/2024 21:41

SalsaLights · 30/11/2024 21:38

Is there no hope for your relationship? Would he be open to trying to work on it? Counselling?

If no then you need to make plans for downsizing and find somewhere you can afford to live.

I'm not sure if counselling would make him more open to visitors or party more. Or make him less financially focused.

I know he still really loves me hence his actions but he's the type that once you've hurt he will find it hard to forgive.

OP posts:
perfectstorm · 30/11/2024 21:46

BettyBardMacDonald · 30/11/2024 21:23

Hogwash. From a legal standpoint, not a relationship standpoint, she has fewer rights than a lodger or tenant. He is being extremely gracious under the circumstances, especially since SHE asked him to leave.

Their shared personal/domestic history is irrelevant from a legal standpoint. Because they "don't believe in" marriage. Yet somehow she expects the same legal protection as a married woman would have. She freely admits she has not paid toward the house, he has.

From a legal standpoint, it's a jointly owned house. She's not a lodger. She's said several times that she owns half. Whether anyone thinks that's fair, or not, that's the situation.

I'm not sure why people keep saying she has fewer rights than a lodger to a house she co-owns.

notatinydancer · 30/11/2024 22:05

brookgreenmum · 29/11/2024 20:29

I keep reading articles that state having the kids does give me a good chance of staying put, though it's mainly solicitor websites so I guess they would say that as they stand to gain! Feel a bit helpless really. It was my decision to call it a day so I can't really argue too much either.

He saved and paid the deposit, stamp duty and all mortgage payments and fixed bills since purchase in 2017, prior to that the same for rent.

Edited

Where children are small, one party has little mortgage capacity, equity is limited and house prices are high, Mesher orders are more likely. A Mesher order can only be issued after divorce proceedings, therefore, it is not an option available to unmarried parents.9 Apr 2024

BettyBardMacDonald · 30/11/2024 22:11

You are blowing up your domestic and financial life because he won't have visitors and party more?

MrsSchrute · 30/11/2024 22:13

brookgreenmum · 30/11/2024 21:41

I'm not sure if counselling would make him more open to visitors or party more. Or make him less financially focused.

I know he still really loves me hence his actions but he's the type that once you've hurt he will find it hard to forgive.

Could counselling make you more open to time as a family and less partying? Or make you more financially focused?

Would you want to stay together? Or is this a done deal?

BettyBardMacDonald · 30/11/2024 22:16

Wait, you disdain the notion of setting up your offspring for financial security but expected him to basically forfeit anything and everything to ensure you didn't suffer financially?

Dumping your offspring's loving and generous father because he's not exciting enough?

Fuck me, I've read it all now.

PicturePlace · 30/11/2024 22:16

brookgreenmum · 30/11/2024 20:32

Well dad isn't staying - yet. I'd have to agree to sell to him. I suppose I could refuse buy out and insist on sale?

However if I refuse, I'm guessing he'll take me to court and I'll be even worse off if I lose, which I suppose is likely given what is said here.

You can refuse to do it the easy way, but if you put it on the market, he can just buy it. There is nothing you can do to stop that. You seem to think you have a lot more power than him in this entire situation, by virtue of you having a vagina. You don't. You are equals in this situation.

Monty27 · 30/11/2024 22:18

If you're simply changing your lifestyle with minimal impact on dcs take the offer and get yourself a place with space for dcs. Take it from there. I think it's a good offer but you really should buy something rather than renting.

StormingNorman · 30/11/2024 22:19

BettyBardMacDonald · 30/11/2024 22:16

Wait, you disdain the notion of setting up your offspring for financial security but expected him to basically forfeit anything and everything to ensure you didn't suffer financially?

Dumping your offspring's loving and generous father because he's not exciting enough?

Fuck me, I've read it all now.

Fuck me, just lay off the OP. It’s getting to be too much now. You’ve had your fun now head back to AIBU if you’re looking for a pile on.

Quitelikeit · 30/11/2024 22:32

Op

you are really taking advantage of this guy -

the fact is you and you alone are now about 7/8k a month worse off - yet you are trying so hard to look the other way!

cant you buy a flat or a smaller place?

essentially you cannot bear to give up the house

with your 50k income, your child benefit, council tax discount and you free mortgage and utilities you have been lapping things up!

interesting how you say he should let you live in the house till the kids go to uni yet you couldn’t be bothered to hang on in the relationship until the kids went to uni

interesting how he didn’t marry you!

Zonder · 30/11/2024 22:32

brookgreenmum · 30/11/2024 21:36

Seems silly but lots of reasons. For example, we are quite different, he is more introverted whilst I'm quite extroverted. He likes his space whereas I'd like people around all the time which he hated, was happy with it sometimes but other times he just wanted some peace.

He was quite focused on giving us and the children financial stability and setting them up well whereas I was more leaning towards letting them work it out for themselves. So, there was friction which didn't help.

My mother said I won't find someone like him again.

I'm with your mum.

Opposites attract. Every couple I know has one introvert and one extravert off the top of my head.

whenemmafallsinlove · 30/11/2024 23:12

I think the relationship maybe seems a lot more tolerable now she's clicked what separating means.
Ending a 20 year relationship because you're basically bored is not the smartest move.
If you want to start rebuilding his trust in you will need to work hard OP but better move fast. This sounds like a nice man who earns well. He's not going to be a free agent very long.

BettyBardMacDonald · 30/11/2024 23:28

whenemmafallsinlove · 30/11/2024 23:12

I think the relationship maybe seems a lot more tolerable now she's clicked what separating means.
Ending a 20 year relationship because you're basically bored is not the smartest move.
If you want to start rebuilding his trust in you will need to work hard OP but better move fast. This sounds like a nice man who earns well. He's not going to be a free agent very long.

This.

A generous high earner however "boring" is a lot more marketable on the dating scene than an aging party girl who expects to be subsidized. Might want to rethink.

StormingNorman · 01/12/2024 00:25

BettyBardMacDonald · 30/11/2024 23:28

This.

A generous high earner however "boring" is a lot more marketable on the dating scene than an aging party girl who expects to be subsidized. Might want to rethink.

You really cannot stop sniping at the OP can you. Any excuse to stick the boot in. What the actual fuck is wrong with you? One too many G&T’s this evening?

brookgreenmum · 01/12/2024 00:36

Wouldn't go as far as boring. I kind of looked at what we might do as we get older and the children disappeared and he just didn't fit it. He liked us spending time together, l prefer my own thing. I realised perhaps I'm just better off single. He is/was heartbroken, not the type to jump back into dating, quite shy but I imagine he might have a few women circling him in the not to distant future.

Does this make me sound cold and ungrateful? I don't know anymore.

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Foreverhope1 · 01/12/2024 01:10

This reads as a reverse. Devoid of emotion, practical language yet describes someone as having a very shallow understanding of life.

caringcarer · 01/12/2024 02:22

brookgreenmum · 29/11/2024 20:56

No, he's supported the family from the start being the much higher earner and this has always been the way. Not normal??

Hence why I asked the question...I should really count my blessings and take it?

If he's paid the full deposit and mortgage I think it's a generous offer to you. I'd accept the £85k and use it as a deposit on another house that you will own.

SalsaLights · 01/12/2024 08:01

brookgreenmum · 01/12/2024 00:36

Wouldn't go as far as boring. I kind of looked at what we might do as we get older and the children disappeared and he just didn't fit it. He liked us spending time together, l prefer my own thing. I realised perhaps I'm just better off single. He is/was heartbroken, not the type to jump back into dating, quite shy but I imagine he might have a few women circling him in the not to distant future.

Does this make me sound cold and ungrateful? I don't know anymore.

It doesn't sound cold and ungrateful - but it does sound like you've been impulsive and haven't thought through the realities of what you're doing.

In blunt terms I agree with @BettyBardMacDonald - you're blowing up your domestic and financial life because he won't have visitors and party more. Are you really sure this is what you want?

It's absolutely fine to look at a relationship and say it doesn't make me happy any more. But if there's nothing fundamentally wrong with it - and separating is going to leave you all worse off - then surely it's sensible to try and explore repairing it first? You clearly found him attractive enough to have a LTR and kids.

Being blunt again:

  1. You can live alone with your children, but you are going to have to substantially downsize your standard of living. You may end up with the insecurity of renting rather than ownership.
  2. You cannot expect him to fund your life anymore because you are no longer his problem. You aren't married, so he owes you nothing except 50% of the house and CMS. At best you'll get CMS for another two years for your eldest, and for another six years for your youngest, assuming they both go on to further education - after that, zilch. However...
  3. If you end up somewhere smaller and less nice, how do you know the kids won't want to stay with him? You could potentially end up with no CMS or having to pay him.
  4. He sounds like a decent bloke. How are you going to feel in two years time if all you've done is met players and time wasters? If your Ex is a nice bloke he won't be single for long. Are you going to be happy for him that he's in a good relationship when you've just been ghosted for the Nth time on Tinder? Or are you going to think that you made a silly mistake and threw away a good relationship with a decent bloke?

It sounds like you have rushed into this without thinking though what it means, and you've done it assuming that you'd be entitled to the house without actually checking whether your assumption was correct. Think very carefully about what you are doing. However if you do decide to try and repair your relationship, you need to be genuinely committed to doing so, as otherwise it would be dreadfully unfair to your Ex. I'm sorry this is going to sound nasty, but it sounds like he really does deserve better than this.

Zonder · 01/12/2024 08:07

brookgreenmum · 01/12/2024 00:36

Wouldn't go as far as boring. I kind of looked at what we might do as we get older and the children disappeared and he just didn't fit it. He liked us spending time together, l prefer my own thing. I realised perhaps I'm just better off single. He is/was heartbroken, not the type to jump back into dating, quite shy but I imagine he might have a few women circling him in the not to distant future.

Does this make me sound cold and ungrateful? I don't know anymore.

I really don't want to stick the oar in but it does make you seem a bit cold and ungrateful. He has loved and provided for you and the children because he is the kind of man who does that. He's not the kind of man to go running off partying and leaving his responsibilities.

I really hope he finds someone who appreciates him for who he is.

Please don't expect him to continue funding you. Especially if the children end up choosing to live with him.

Viviennemary · 01/12/2024 08:11

brookgreenmum · 30/11/2024 16:52

As it stands, the children naturally want to live with me. We could both live in exactly the same area and probably 5 mins walk from each other. The only difference is that he'd own and I'd rent and come the future I'm going to have to leave the area which I love but I can't expect him to provide for that.

I think it would be a big mistake to rent. Can you not afford to buy a house?

DoreenonTill8 · 01/12/2024 08:19

If op now realises that her cash cow will be gone, I really hope she doesn't backtrack and try and reconcil....

Quitelikeit · 01/12/2024 08:27

I actually think the op has had plenty visitors!!! And that is why she gave up on her relationship and does not want to go back there (affair?!)

Problem is she is quite poor and thinks that her ex should pay 50pc of the mortgage for the next ten years!!

I hope he has found a back bone - maybe move back in!

or at least only transfer his part of the mortgage

IkeaJesusChrist · 01/12/2024 08:28

Well the consequences of her actions will be happening regardless.

I can't believe that someone is this impulsive and naive.

StormingNorman · 01/12/2024 08:28

OP, I’m sorry to say it but I also agree with your mum and some of the PP who think you’re letting a good man go.

But only you’ve lived the relationship and as the MN saying goes, you can separate for any reason or no reason at all.

SheilaFentiman · 01/12/2024 08:42

I’m assuming OP is using the “party” example to represent a more general “we have grown apart in our characters”