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Why are wonen greedy........

332 replies

CoparentingDad · 20/07/2024 19:44

......excuse the provocative title, the correct term is 'I'm entitled to xyz'?

I'm genuinely interested to know.

I built up assets - a pension, ISA, a seven figure house, a successful business for 19 years before I even met my exDW.

She did not have anything to do with any of this or contribute in any way.

My exDw brought debt into our relationship which I paid off, she got fired 9 months into our relationship and could never find a job that suited her, so I transferred £2k a month to her bank account (BIG mistake - that sets precedent apparently, so for being generous, you get fucked more on divorce)

We got married in our 30's (me 38, her 34), it’s not like she didn’t have a chance to do these things.

She’d never paid into a pension, bought a house, put into an ISA.

Yes, I know it’s my fault as I’m the mug that married her.

BUT, what makes you feel entitled to things that a man has built up 20 years leading up to meeting him?

Thanks

OP posts:
Over40Overdating · 20/07/2024 20:58

#NAWALT

Whyisegg · 20/07/2024 20:58

CoparentingDad · 20/07/2024 20:03

Partly true, as I said earlier, it is ultimatly my fault, I'm just trying to understand why any self respecting women would want half of 20 years of assets they had nothing to do with

#feminism

Does she have any other source of income? It's not rocket science

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 20/07/2024 20:59

Viviennemary · 20/07/2024 20:51

I agree with your thoughts. A spouse should not automatically be able to raid assets their partner has built up through hard work or inheritance.. This should apply equally to men and women.

It’s not a raid though is it.

i go decided to marry my dp, I chose to share my assets with him. If we divorced after a long marriage and or kids, it wouldn’t be a raid.

His legal entitlement would be a a result of the decision I made to share my assets with him.

oakleaffy · 20/07/2024 21:01

@CoparentingDad You married a greedy grasper.
Not all women are remotely like that.

You were rash to have married one that is a greedy lazy woman that takes.

GingerPirate · 20/07/2024 21:01

Alright, I go with the last question, since I feel it suits me to respond.
My husband is taking very good care of me
(I'm 45, child free, never worked, he's paying into my pension etc). Large house, good income,
I take care of the household and my husband, who is significantly older. We have been married for 20 years.
And now to the point, I would very much like
to live on my own again, in an apartment.
Most of the assets, however, are a result of my husband's hard work, that's why I feel entitled precisely to NOTHING at the moment.
If I wanted to, I divorce him and take what I can.
Nope.
Instead, I resort to waiting for my surviving (abusive) parent to disappear, so I could go peacefully back to my country and live by myself.
(Talked openly to my husband and he understands my need for personal space and freedom, people change). Willing to keep taking care of me if still needed, similar lifestyles etc.
If your ex took you to the cleaners,
it's a MacShame, (soz) 😁 but it depends on both adults involved.
Seems like she didn't respect you enough to bring up these serious matters.
Question is Why - not Why are women greedy.
Full stop.

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 20/07/2024 21:01

Not a chance did this man, who gets into legal contracts without finding out what it entails, build up 7 figure assets without having financial advice and an accountant.

He knew exactly what he was doing. He is just bitter about it and finds it easier the blame women. Rather than himself.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 20/07/2024 21:04

MonsteraMama · 20/07/2024 19:55

Generally speaking it's because the "wonan" is the one who will sacrifice her career and earning potential in order to carry, birth and raise the children within said marriage, and generally speaking the man will be the one to high tail it into the sunset at the conclusion of said marriage leaving the "wonan" to continue doing a vast majority of the grunt work.

Since being a wife and mother isn't a paid position, that is covered in a splitting of assets in divorce. If you were too dumb to consider this before signing a legal contract, because that is what marriage is, then that's a you problem.

Marriage to a man is a net negative for a woman, and I say that as someone who is very happily married.

In other words, suck it up sunshine.

I was too tired to find the words, so thank you. Exactly this.

Choochoo21 · 20/07/2024 21:04

How long were you with her before getting married?

Surely you knew that if you divorced, she would get half of the assets that you built up?

Why do you think celebs get pre-nups?

Its hard to feel sympathy for you when you were a grown adult going into a marriage, knowing full well what would happen if you split up.

I hope you aren’t planning to marry your new partner because you know this could happen all again.

Did you get legal advice when you divorced your first wife?
Did you have kids with her?

silentassassin · 20/07/2024 21:05

BippetyBoppetyBooHoo · 20/07/2024 19:53

Why are men so violent?
Why do men rape?
Why do men not expect to do any housework when married?

THIS. Answer this question for us first OP

Leanmeansmitingmachine · 20/07/2024 21:05

If you’re a millionaire, I’m a frog in tap shoes.

SnappyCroc · 20/07/2024 21:05

Why do men feel entitled to abandon and not pay for their children when a relationship breaks down?

Oh wait... not all do, do they?

TruthorDie · 20/07/2024 21:06

Labtastic · 20/07/2024 19:49

Precisely.

OP - I think you mean, "why is my STBX wife like this?" I can't imagine you're going to get many sympathetic responses here when you're generalising so rudely about all women, on a predominantly female site 🤣

Err this. Ask your STBX wife

Personally l brought a car, a property and professional qualifications to my marriage. My husband brought similar. Don’t tar every woman with the same brush

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 20/07/2024 21:06

And yes, if you’ve never heard of a pre-nup, that’s on you. If you had assets before you got married and didn’t have kids together then you absolutely should have sought legal advice/pre-nup. Thats a you problem, not a “wonan” problem.

Whyisegg · 20/07/2024 21:07

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 20/07/2024 21:06

And yes, if you’ve never heard of a pre-nup, that’s on you. If you had assets before you got married and didn’t have kids together then you absolutely should have sought legal advice/pre-nup. Thats a you problem, not a “wonan” problem.

Pre-nups do not exist in British law!!!!

rosiers · 20/07/2024 21:07

I don't think this type of woman feels morally entitled to it, they just know that there is some legal entitlement and think "why walk away with less than I'm legally entitled to?"

Of course it's greedy, but presumably she doesn't care about taking it from you because the very fact you divorced (and you're still blabbing about it for so long afterwards that you have a new wife!) suggests that you weren't (aren't) on good terms.

powershowerforanhour · 20/07/2024 21:08

Is she trying to get you to pay child maintenance?

Gabby82 · 20/07/2024 21:08

Whyisegg · 20/07/2024 21:07

Pre-nups do not exist in British law!!!!

osborneslaw.com/blog/pre-nuptial-agreements-become-enforceable/

Gettingbysomehow · 20/07/2024 21:08

Your ex wife was greedy not all women. My marriage was the reverse. I had all the assets. But I wasnt stupid enough to throw caution to the winds as soon as a pretty face came along.
I made quite sure my assets were protected in case of divorce. And so they were.
I got off almost scot free assets ibtact.
The title of your post should read....why am I so dumb.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 20/07/2024 21:09

Whyisegg · 20/07/2024 21:07

Pre-nups do not exist in British law!!!!

A) not everyone on MN is in the UK b) there are options in UK such as trusts but it’s tricky. Still could have sought legal advice before entering such a big life-changing event….

HappierTimesAhead · 20/07/2024 21:09

biscuitandcake · 20/07/2024 20:45

Why can't men spell women????

It's quite a hard word to spell plus 'little penis, little brain'.

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 20/07/2024 21:10

Did the OP ever answer as to whether he had children with the first wife?

ThunderStormFan · 20/07/2024 21:10

There are many missing factors here to offer an opinion …. the two big ones are did you have kids (and obviously if so, how old were they when you divorced), and why did the marriage end?

Obviously if young children are involved, there’s a myriad of questions/ arguments (far too long to type).

But for me, the big one is the ground for separation. DH & I are on similar salaries (we kind of alternate who’s the ‘breadwinner’ if one of us gets a payrise but we’re within £2k of each other and both on fairly good salaries) - we’re pretty much 50:50 and if we split on mutual agreement (grew apart etc) it would absolutely be a fair split, but if cheating was involved we’ve both made it perfectly clear if we were the ‘injured’ party, we’d go for the whole lot and the guilty party will lose the house. If that makes me greedy, so be it, but it’s mutually reciprocated by DH so if we’re generalising then men are too by the same logic (given you’ve made a generalisation based on 1 experience)?

IrritatedB3dM4ker · 20/07/2024 21:10

I think we only have your version of events.

I'd love to hear your ex wife's.

Some women are greedy and some men are. Some women are lazy and some men are. Some women are entitled...you get my drift I'm sure.

Whippetlovely · 20/07/2024 21:10

Well I’ve learnt something today as I thought you could have a contract before you get married to say such assets are mine ect (like a pre nup) but it seems this isn’t the case. I do think it’s unfair for someone to take half of a man or women’s assets they earnt prior to the marriage.

Whyisegg · 20/07/2024 21:11

British law states that in a divorce both parties are entitled to 50% of the other's assets. This is not new - it's the main reason I refuse to get married! In the event your marriage breaks down, expect to be taken to the cleaners. It has nothing to do with anyone being 'greedy' more like someone wanting recoup their losses or secure their future - neither of which are evil acts just acts of survival. Pre nuptial agreements are not an option in the UK or most of the world outside the USA. The mega rich have many ways of hiding their money so for them it's really not an issue. Everyone else has to abide by domestic law

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