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Does it get better?

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Mambot · 18/08/2017 11:19

Is been seven weeks since my partner walked out on me and our nearly two year old son in the most horrible way. He blames me for everything, has turned mutual friends and his family against me and is all full of himself arguing 'its time to concentrate on me'.

I don't really get any sleep, am working full time to try and get some money together and my poor mum is looking after my son while I'm there and is also exhausted.

I have nightmares every night about whatever trollop he has gone off with and him smugly telling me why she's better, I have huge amounts of anxiety and chest pain and am finding it very difficult to 'forgive and move on' as all the literature tells me to do. I spend a lot of time hoping he will suffer for the pain he caused all of us.

Please tell me it gets easier. Some days are so hard and I'm crying in work while writing this.

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newtonml64 · 28/12/2017 15:30

@wintersnow17 I know exactly what you mean, it’s hard not to think of what they are doing and can be tortuous. It’s natural to look back on what we were doing this time last year - a walk in the country, a meal out a trip to the sales, it’s now that those thoughts hit us most as I’m guessing most of us are in our own and trying to fill the time. But one thing I do know is that our stbxh’s and Stbxw’s wont be giving us a second thought. They will be lavishing their attentions on their new “toys” wanting to please them and proving to themselves and those around them that they have made the right decision. So try and remember “you deserve so much better” they are not worth wasting our energy on. I know its easy to say but keep repeating it and it helps to get them out if your head. I think 2018 is going to be another hard year, continuing the emotional rollercoaster but we are stronger than we were a few months ago and we can get through this dark tunnel and reach the light.😊x

Wintersnow17 · 29/12/2017 13:13

Thanks newtonml64 you are right of course. But it's knowing that's going on , the lavishing attention and gifts - it's sick making. But again you are right. They are not thinking of us and we shouldn't think of them X We deserve better and to show them we will not be beaten by this X

scotgal2017 · 29/12/2017 22:33

Hi, have been lurking this evening, unfortunately i haven't read all 30 pages but I think i got about a 3rd of the way there!!

My background and very long story, sorry in advance!!: Met H when i was 17 and a half, married at 21, so married for 17 years, together 20 in total. Two kids, 14 and 11, 11 year old has issues with self esteem and is seeing a psychologist. moved to spain 6 years ago from UK. Turbulent marriage, good and bad, towards end very bad. i had a meltdown at him in March and said we should go to marriage counselling as we had reached a point where we could not try and fix things ourselves - he agreed. Life was busy for various reasons, we had small arguments that led to big arguments, silent treatments etc. and counselling had not been arranged. 1 week after 17th anniversary in July and 3 days before we were flying to UK for his mum's surprise 60th do, he tells me he is leaving. My immediate response if me and kids will move to UK (I'm not the type to beg!). We've had mind games and allsorts before but there was something in his voice that told me this time was serious.

A week spent in UK, I'm expected to out on a fake smile - don't think so! Couldn't he have waited until after instead of trying to make me look like a complete b^^??

He works away for 3 - 5 weeks at a time, has done for 10 years or so and is well paid. he leaves for work day after we return. he sends me messages ( we can't communicate face to face, we've always been very bad communicators) saying he still loves me but can't stay with me. I said i would be willing to try and that he had agreed to go to counselling. Now it's pointless he says and he is leaving.

He finds and apartment in September moves out. Had the cheek to take the only telly in the house (65 inch on payment, but he couldn't buy even a cheap replacement for the kids??) - he even had the cheek to ask me to help him carry the Tv up 4 flights to his new apartment!!

he said he wanted to be friends. In the first week after he left i said okay but changed my mind a week later, it was too hard to contemplate. He kept trying to engage, how are you etc. I told him I was focussing on me and all we needed to communicate about was kids and bills. I started seeing a counsellor on October as i have realised I have issues from childhood (mum left when I was 9) that have never been dealt with and I didn't know it had affected my adult relationships. I wanted to see a counsellor for me. i had to change counsellor as she was rubbish and have now found a good one.

I was feeling fine and one week when he had the kids, about 4 months in he sent an email going over all of the old ground. Why did he do that, it just made me feel worse again!! There was always a hope in the back of my mind that we could work it out. indeed, I had asked him in July what he thought needed change to make the relationship better. he told me 3 things which to me are all fixable with some counselling!!!

Which is now really strange as my counsellor said it is better if he comes to my sessions as we can do separation counselling. I said he wouldn't agree (because counselling is pointless he said) and she asked if she could invite him on my behalf. i agreed and he has said yes!! Only because it's separation counselling and it's to help me!! This was arranged for the end of Jan as he left 3rd december and said he is not back until end of Jan ( so around 8 weeks). before he left we had an argument as he wanted to leave his motorbike in my garage and I said no. he said, i thought we had an agreement I could leave it there for extended periods of time when away. I said no there was no such arrangement! i said he could use MY garage until he had his own, which he does have at his new apartment. A case of trying to have his cake and eat it I'm thinking?? Some of his stuff is still here too and he's been told to get it out asap. Even after all this he has agreed to the separation counselling to go ahead.

have been okay and am now 5 months ish in. Xmas day was hard but me and the kids had fun. There is no family here so it's hard but i'm used to being on my own so often with them anyway. Yesterday morning I got a message from him which said that he wanted to tell me before we went for the counselling in january that he has been seeing someone else....he says they have only met a couple of times and that they only started seeing each other recently.

I'm not sure whether this is true or not as we have had trust issues due to things he hasn;t been honest about in the past but it has made me make up my mind that he is a selfish coward who has deserted his family and i'm moving on regardless!! i also have an issue with his family at the moment too and also his selfishness is showing as it transpires that he is working for 6 weeks and then going on holiday for 2 weeks straight after!! Not even coming home to see his kids beforehand, even though he is then off for 5 weeks. this man is unbelievable!!

Sorry for this rambling mess of a post, to me quite a lot has happened since July lol.

Wellyboots86 · 29/12/2017 23:56

scotgal hi. Sorry you’ve been through all of that but good you’re getting counselling, that should really help long term.

As you’ll read from all of our previous messages on here, there is a pattern the other person always seems to follow and it sounds like your h is the same as all of our exes.

Mine asked me today if I minded if om went out shopping with her and boys tomorrow as easier with two people, really not happy about it but nothing I can do. She told me that he’s not interested in getting too involved with the kids but feels like it’s escalating quite quickly now.

She admitted things were pretty serious between the two of them now which was really hard to hear but at least I know that divorce is the best option now.

She also said that her par nets have no interest in her and she doesn’t care about them, charming and will com3 back to bite her later I feel (hope)

scotgal2017 · 30/12/2017 07:00

Thanks Wellyboots, I am taking it one day at a time and having read posts on this thread it has helped immensely to realise that although I'm not perfect and did crap things in my marriage, he's the one with the problem!

It must be hard for you to get to that stage of having to think that the OM is getting closer but from having read your posts I know you will cope!

Of course my mind is going ten to the dozen with this 2 day old information about there being a new(?) OW but i'm trying to put it out of my mind. It's been a whirlwind the last few days as I decided that i was going to cut out his family (a large, dysfunctional one) and so i sent his relatives a personal message on Facebook to say i was unfriending them, it wasn't anything personal but because my X is in my past now and I need to move on, I have to unfriend them (I unfriended him within the first week and have been strong not looking at his FB but I know he looked at mine frequently until i blocked him 2 days ago!!). Some of the relatives responded.......one of his uncles said he was glad that I got out at last (speaks volumes I think) and another of his aunts didn't even know he had left!!

I had a great evening last night house hunting for when me and the kids move back and checking on what kind of jobs are out there and where. I realised that I can move back to wherever I like. It might be easier and better to move somewhere completely unknown so my and kids can make a fresh start without old familiar memories getting in the way of healing.

i hope you all have a good day!

newtonml64 · 31/12/2017 10:47

How we all feeling today? I have to admit I’m feeling sad and thinking of what was... but I’m letting myself get that out of my system. I know it will pass. If we can get through the last few turbulent months and still be here to tell the tale .. let’s take that strength into 2018. Let’s remember not to be their victims, hold your head up high and don’t let them see our suffering. We are the strong, kind, caring ones and we will go into 2018 much better people. I won’t send the normal wishes for the New Year as I’m sure, like me you may not want to hear them but I will see you on the other side 🙂

Layniboggs123 · 31/12/2017 11:08

I'm full of mixed emotions sad today as New year was always mine and stbxh night together but he will be spending with OW . But happy to break traditions n have nice takeaway before diet kicks in lol and play games with my ds. I'm also happy cos 2018 has alot to bring fun exciting times for us . Sending love and yeah see you on the other side xx

scotgal2017 · 31/12/2017 12:30

Feeling okay today, trying to put myself in a positive frame of mind and think from tomorrow is a perfect opportunity for fresh thinking, a fresh start and to have a positive outlook. I even bought some salad and water again to spur me on with getting back to the healthy eating after the Xmas splurge lol.

Hope the day goes well for everyone and stay positive!

Daybyday2017 · 31/12/2017 12:52

@newtonml64 - feel the same way. Love to everyone

Viking64 · 31/12/2017 13:09

Yeah love and peace to all my fellow survivors Flowers

Wellyboots86 · 31/12/2017 13:22

Setting myself some realistic goals for the new year to help me get over what’s happened.

In a few months my divorce should be finalised, I may have bought a new house and hopefully stbxw and om have split and she gets a bit of karma.

See you all on the other side

sunflowers4 · 31/12/2017 14:19

Feeling mixed emotions too! Been feeling up and down all over Christmas really! Used to love New Year's Eve but not particularly looking forward to this one as I no he will be spending it with OW! But trying to stay positive! 2018 will be another rollercoaster with starting divorce proceedings and sorting financial stuff out just want that out the way now! 2018 is the year I think of myself and DS and continue to make a happy little life for us! See you all in 2018 xxxx

Els1e · 31/12/2017 14:32

What a difficult time for you all. It does get better! I found that once I accepted we were no longer together, and ignoring trying to understand what happened, I was able to move on and start making plans.

scotgal2017 · 31/12/2017 19:00

Good idea or rushing it??

I live in Spain and we have been resident for 6 plus years. As stated above OH has said he wants a divorce and as we were married in Scotland thought we would have to wait the year. From what i've just been reading, in Spain it is possible to get a divorce after 3 months of being married if you are resident (although it does say it relates to English and Welsh laws, can't find anything specific about Scottish law and divorces in Spain).

I've had a few drinks with it being NYE and also with the news he has moved on after only 5 months (if not before, was suspicious as on FB I could only see mutual friends of his on his profile, so now thinking he had set it somehow so that I could not see OW as a friend and he has known her longer.....maybe I am just inventing that but seems to fit as he never tried to change settings after I pointed it out one argument lol), so should I email him with a link to show he can get the precious divorce he wants a lot sooner than he wanted??

Wellyboots86 · 31/12/2017 22:05

Don’t do anything tonight scotgal. Let him seek legal advice about it if he wants

scotgal2017 · 31/12/2017 22:17

Thanks Wellyboots but I feel if that's what he wants and he can get it "tomorrow" then why wait?

He wants it after 20 years so why not give it to him.... with stipulations of course.......I can't fight any more and if I'm honest as much as it hurts, he changed so much and is so selfish I'm better off starting again. if 20 years holds no value and he can see someone soon after me and his kids obviously very much old news and not what he wants.

Wellyboots86 · 01/01/2018 09:09

I know exactly what you mean scotgal. My stbxw walked out after 16 years and 2 kids and has already been with om for 7 months.

My only concern for you is that if you start “helping” him with divorce stuff then he’ll try and rush you and possibly take more than his share

Viking64 · 01/01/2018 10:19

Agree with wellyboots they do this and seem to think they can dictate proceedings from there on in. If you can handle it slow everything down and make it clear to him that things will be done at your speed . It actually gives you some power back and you will be glad of that . Don't get trampled over my wife got angry when I told her I know where I stand in the eyes of the law so go away and do your homework and if it gets to much ask your new man to help you ta ta. It made me feel great when I was really low .

scotgal2017 · 01/01/2018 10:54

He isn't putting any pressure on me and hasn't really mentioned it except in some of his messages when we are arguing.

I just feel this is what he wants, then he can get it within the next few months here instead of waiting 6/7 more months for the process to start in the UK.

It should be relatively straightforward as we have no assets to fight over - no purchased house, no savings to speak of.... I have my car and he has his own motorbike. We were doing a rent to buy of the property i'm in but that obviously won't happen now. The only real thing to sort out is payments for the kids and rent and access to kids.

I just feel that why should |I wait and torture myself when i have the opportunity to get it done and dusted and then be free to heal/move on.

newtonml64 · 01/01/2018 11:28

How we all feeling today? I feel totally crap, tried to dull the sadness with alcohol and all it’s done I’d given me a hangover from hell.. that will teach me 😂 It was the worst NYE I have had in 30 years and the tears seemed to be endless .. but I got through it, am here to tell the tale and today is another day. 2018 will be another rollercoaster of a year.. divorce, new house and new life as a singleton. I hope it brings us some good times along the way. Stay strong everyone we need our strength to fight the next hurdles👊🏼Xx

Wellyboots86 · 01/01/2018 14:11

My New Year’s Eve was quiet as went to bed early, nothing to celebrate is there? Today I thought I’ll take the boys and dogs on a nice walk and then when I got home I realised my house key had fallen off key ring somewhere!

Cue a phone call and trip to stbxw to get her key and feeling awful and lonely as she looked great, smelled great (perfume that she now wears since meeting om) and of course he was inside (didn’t see him but know he was there due to previous chat).

Really wanted a positive start to the year and instead I feel like crying

scotgal2017 · 01/01/2018 16:19

Oh dear Wellyboots, not a good event to have today of all days! Try and stay positive though. I make sure DD has a key......stbxh no longer has a key for my house!

Wellyboots86 · 01/01/2018 17:12

Well now stbxw doesn’t have one to mine! My neighbors have a key but they were out.

Just seems that whenever I decide today is the day to start moving on it’s also the day she looks amazing and not a slob lol!

scotgal2017 · 01/01/2018 17:22

I would have just kept walking until my neighbours appeared but i'm stubborn that way lol!!

Wellyboots86 · 01/01/2018 17:26

I might’ve if I was in my own but the kids were in the car with me, luckily they fell asleep on the way to hers so didn’t see her

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