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Does it get better?

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Mambot · 18/08/2017 11:19

Is been seven weeks since my partner walked out on me and our nearly two year old son in the most horrible way. He blames me for everything, has turned mutual friends and his family against me and is all full of himself arguing 'its time to concentrate on me'.

I don't really get any sleep, am working full time to try and get some money together and my poor mum is looking after my son while I'm there and is also exhausted.

I have nightmares every night about whatever trollop he has gone off with and him smugly telling me why she's better, I have huge amounts of anxiety and chest pain and am finding it very difficult to 'forgive and move on' as all the literature tells me to do. I spend a lot of time hoping he will suffer for the pain he caused all of us.

Please tell me it gets easier. Some days are so hard and I'm crying in work while writing this.

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sunflowers4 · 08/10/2017 14:12

@Viking64 nope if it was the other way around I can guarantee you he wouldn’t have coped as well or been as civil when it comes to the DS!

@Wellyboots86 yeah I would keep that a lovely little surprise! Wink

Hope everyone’s weekend has been ok! And everyone is doing good? Grin
You know where to come if you need a good old rant! We are all here for each other on here!! Xxxx

newtonml64 · 08/10/2017 14:31

Viking64 we certainly do deserve happiness and I'm sure with time our trust will come back.. For me it's the daunting aspect of having to go back on the dating scene.. after being with my stbxh for over 30 years I think I'm a little bit out of practice Wink Time will tell!! Had a blip this morning .. woke up feeling sad and lonely but I've kept myself busy doing jobs he would normally do so who needs him, not me !! feeling a little better now.. that's definite progress for me... little steps forward towards the new beginnings .. hope you're all as well as can be Smile

Viking64 · 08/10/2017 15:25

Newtonml Yes it is progress no matter how slow occasionally I hit a sadness speed hump but it don't last as long as it used to.had a nice meal cooked for me by a lovely lady I met recently at a party nothing in it just friends but it's good to get out the house and she thinks I'm great company and funny which is always nice to hear hope your day is going well

Wellyboots86 · 08/10/2017 20:37

sunflowers been working all day today and yesterday but having a nice evening as have my boys back now! Youngest has just started walking (she's not seen it, just me Grin)

sunflowers4 · 08/10/2017 21:38

@Wellyboots86 those moments are so precious! SmileI bet you are so proud!! They don’t realise what they are missing out on! At least we get to enjoy these moments and appreciate them! Enjoy your night with your boys!

Mambot · 11/10/2017 19:05

Hiya, how is everyone? I'm struggling, this week, reeling from some news about the antics of my ex this week, I won't go into too much detail as I'm starting to become quite frightened of him. I tell you what though, I am no longer struggling to wish him happiness and all that, all I've been doing for the last few days is hoping he can find some happiness and move on, and leave me alone.

I found this excellent article, I thought it might help some of us who are on the recieving end of an exes attempt to justify their abandonment by painting themselves to be the victim and us as monsters.

www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/understanding-why-an-ex-is-spreading-misinformation-about-you-or-building-a-case-against-you-to-break-up/

I will say though I have the loveliest friends and family, I'm grateful for them all xxx

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sunflowers4 · 11/10/2017 21:31

Hi Mambot

Sorry to hear you are having a bad week! Your ex’s behaviour sounds worrying, especially with you saying you are becoming scared of him! Wish there was something I could say or help with - big hugs you will get through this!!

Friends and family have been my saviours too! They have been such a huge support and i am so lucky to have such good people around me! Xx

Mambot · 11/10/2017 21:54

Thanks sunflowers, I am just tired of his constant smear campaigns against me. He left me, I haven't chased him about it, why can't he just get on with it. I know it's because he doesn't want to be seen as a typical runner/guy who abandons his kids and so he has to make me look like an absolute horror so that everyone thinks he was right to leave.

But I really worry about how much of a liar he is. I dread his emails and I haven't eaten in a couple of days as I can't keep anything down. I just live in constant fear of what he's going to send next.

I feel bullied, that's the only word to describe it. I just want to be left alone to look after my son. My life is exhausting, I just want some peace I'd be happy if I never heard from him again.

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sunflowers4 · 11/10/2017 22:10

@Mambot awwwww that sounds absolutely awful! How anyone can do that to another person is just beyond me! Never mind to the mother of your child!! It makes me so angry. Make sure you write everything down that he’s doing - keep a log of everything! I wish I had some wise words or advise I could give you :(

I no it must be so hard but you need to try and eat something if anything just to keep your strength up to look after your little one! Is there anybody you could go and talk to about what he is doing? It sounds like he is harassing you! And he is making you Ill. Could you maybe stay with family for a few days? Get meals cooked for you etc x x

newtonml64 · 12/10/2017 06:41

Mambot it's so sad that he is turning to such horrible tactics. My stbxh' guilt has manifested through anger towards me and this sounds similar but he is trying to discredit you st the same time. I agree with Sunflower4 look to those closest to you to look after you and your precious boy. It may give you time and space to give you further strength to deal with him. You are doing so well, this is just another step backwards in this journey we are going through. You can get through this but take the support of those around you. Flowers

Wellyboots86 · 12/10/2017 06:41

mambot that's terrible! I think the smear campaign really highlights that he knows he's in the wrong and desperate to deflect away from himself (classic cheater mentality).

I would block his emails if it's causing you this much stress as you need to stay healthy for you and ds. It might be worth getting some legal advice regarding harassment too if he is scaring you.

Hope things improve soon Flowers

Layniboggs123 · 14/10/2017 22:45

Mambot that's terrible hope things get better soon 👍 we split due to husband wanting single life and wanting to come and go as he pleases there no OW but quite sure there as been since 3 month in . Part if me want to do same but I know I'm not ready n deep down last thing I want. We have had quite a civil split although I'm starting to really dislike him. Pub is even coming between our son. Only place he takes him till I've confronted him about it. Son no longer wants to see him. How can they change so much used to be family man so soppy ECT I don't recognise who he's become x sorry for the rant .x hope rest are doing ok 😘

Wellyboots86 · 15/10/2017 17:47

Really crappy few days, got estate agent coming round tomorrow and I really can't be bothered as I don't care how long it takes to sell, can't find anywhere nice enough to move to anyway.

Had three sleepless nights in a row now, keep having really vivid dreams of varying things going wrong/to do with her and new guy. When I woke up last night I swear I saw her standing next to my bed (obviously she wasn't).

Haven't been able to shake the urge to check up on her today as I know she was taking the kids to see her parents and she mentioned going to a park with them that's not too far by car from his place.

Basically I just feel really low again right now....

sunflowers4 · 15/10/2017 18:06

@Wellyboots86 I’m not feeling great either! But we are bound to have times where we feel crappy, what’s happened to us all is awful! Emotions are bound to be up and down! Try and occupy yourself whilst she has the kids, go for a walk, watch a funny film, clean the house anything that keeps you busy! Hope you start to feel better soon! Try and get through this rubbish time and remember you will feel more positive again it’s just temporary! Big hugs xxxxx

Wellyboots86 · 15/10/2017 19:08

Sorry to hear that sunflowers. Hope you have a better week this week. She just dropped the kids off, said barely 10 words to me and left asap (surprised she even bothered turning the engine off!

Don't get me wrong, wasn't expecting an evening long conversation with a slide show but more than just the odd grunt would've been nice! We're meant to be doing something fun with the boys on Friday and it's going to be really awkward if she's like this again!

sunflowers4 · 15/10/2017 19:28

@Wellyboots86 as hard as it is just leave her to grunt all she wants! Do not make it your problem. You be how you want to be and just leave her to do the same! I no it’s hard but maybe you need to start not expecting conversation and for her to talk to you like she used to because sadly she is not that person any more! She has changed. Chin up hope you have a better week!

I have told my Ex the only thing I will talk about to him is my DC that is it! Do not want to be friends, do not want to talk about anything else or make conversation with him or anything. We talk or discuss anything that concerns DC that is it. Have tried the whole conversation thing and usually ends up in an argument because he has turned into a compulsive liar! So talking only when required and only concerning DC suits me well! He is no longer the person I married and I really dislike the person he has become! I wish I could hate him but for some reason I can’t!

I dropped DC off before and ex was all smiles and cheerful and I felt like punching him as I really don’t feel like he has any idea of what he has done! His life is just carrying on doing what he wants being selfish whilst I am left to pick up the pieces! It’s like I have never mattered to him! He makes me so angry!!! Sorry for the rant! Xxx

newtonml64 · 15/10/2017 19:35

This weekend must be a bad one for a few of us. I've been feeling so sad and lonely this weekend and had the urge to contact him but I didn't. Thought of him being with the B*h and spending his Sunday with her filled me with so much jealousy, silly I know after the way he's treated me but I can't help the way I feel !! But I pushed myself to keep busy cleaning, shopping and cooking. Thank goodness the weekend is nearly over, I would never thought I would hear myself say that!! Another week over, one more we have all got through, some of us may have taken a little step backwards but we fight to see another day Wink.

NewLeaf74 · 15/10/2017 22:42

Yes a tough weekend all round - must be something in the water. I had a difficult text exchange with my ex - he told me at least 3 times how glad he was to have left. I took the high ground and refused to retaliate back but it left me feeling so worthless. Thank god for friends and family. I did spend too long today looking at pics and wishing....

Wellyboots86 · 16/10/2017 08:30

Well, it's Monday morning, new week, new start for us all!

My aim this week is to say "sod her and her selfish decisions" and enjoy my week!

sunflowers4 · 16/10/2017 08:54

@newtonl64 - you did the right thing to keep busy and not contact!! Well done you! The fact you fought the urge and didn't contact him shows how far you have come - even if you don't realise it!!

@Newleaf74 - Do not let him make you feel worthless! its his loss and you are better than that!! new week - make it a good one! Don't dwell on pictures and wishing - at the end of the day would you still want to be with someone who can do this to you? Had a very heated text exchange with my ex also (I tried to call to try and speak to him like a grown up but he refused to answer my calls!!!) I have a feeling the amicable set up we had is not going to stay that way for long!! He is soooooo selfish and is not taking his responsibilities seriously!

@Wellyboots86 - like the positivity! Lets make it a good week! - I am going to make that my aim also!!

Lets do this!!!!

newtonml64 · 20/10/2017 07:25

Hi how's everyone's week been? The weekend is here again, another week we have all managed to get through. Although I've felt sad and lonely, I've been able to overcome this a lot quicker than I would have a few weeks. Also the stbxh is not always the first thing on my mind when I wake up, so I can see progress. One day at a time and not expecting too much seems to be working. Don't get me wrong there have been set backs which have hit me unawares but I seem to have coped with these better. The stbxh emailed me yesterday, the first communication in 3 weeks. It was a pleasant email even asking how I am!! My reaction a few weeks ago would be to answer straight away pouring my heart out. But I haven't replied to him, will make him wait and will not enter into feelings. I don't trust him. I don't know if he had an ulterior motive or whether his guilt has turned into caring!!! Well if it's the latter it's way too late! I feel I've got a little bit of fight in my belly so I need keep building on that to keep me strong. I hope you have all felt a little better even if it's the smallest of moments. Remember we have got through another week on this emotional rollercoaster which is leading us towards the glimmering light at the end of the dark tunnel, which can only be a positive step forward.I hope you all have a good weekend and I know you are all here if I need someone to "talk" to. Flowers

Wellyboots86 · 20/10/2017 08:29

newton glad you've had a better week. Mine's been quite hit and miss. Had a few moments of feeling lonely and desperate for her back but very much in the minority compared to feeling ok.

Had a customer tell me that I'm doing a great job when I said about the kids etc and she said single dads never seem to get recognition which was nice.

Stbxw has been cold and distant again but not too fussed, feel bad for the kids as I'm trying to stay friendly but whatever!

MoominCake · 20/10/2017 11:54

Hi everyone, I hope you don’t mind me gate crashing your thread. I’ve been lurking for a couple of weeks now. It’s four weeks since my husband of 13 years came home from work to say he was leaving me because the spark had gone and he was no longer attracted to me or in love with me and that we “want different things”.

Our DD is 23 months. It was totally out of the blue and has knocked me for six. I have never felt despair and sadness like this. My mum passed away a few years ago and I have felt like I’m grieving all over again for her because I needed her, and then grieving for my marriage too. However, friends have been truly amazing, and other family rallying round. I feel so lucky to have that support. Having DD has also forced me to get out of bed and put one foot in front of the other. She is utterly gorgeous and has made me laugh. I’m trying not to let her see that is mummy sad.

Obviously I wondered if he’d met someone else but he says not. Apparently he has been feeling like this for over a year, yet during that time we have been intimate with each other (although not very regularly) and seriously discussed having a second child. We have been out on date nights every month, cooked for each other, laughed together. My return to work after mat leave to a very senior role didn’t go well I was enormously stressed and we agreed I’d resign to be a sahm for a while, so that happened in May. Then he decided to take all our savings to buy shares in the company he works for. He knew I didn’t want that but pushed ahead anyway.

He suffers with depression and anxiety and has been on medication for four years but has never dealt with the underlying problems (difficult childhood, parents divorced when he was 6). He has a stressful senior job and works away Mon-Fri, and is currently staying at his mum’s at weekends, spending time then with DD.

He is so sad and while I won’t pretend things were perfect between us, I honestly believed we’d come through the challenges and that after 16 years together, surely that would count for something? It was a massive decision to take the job which takes him away from us in the week, but I think now he perhaps wanted to be away from me.

There have been no shouting matches despite the anger I feel. I love him very deeply and am devastated by his behaviour. He has minimised contact and refuses to engage with me to discuss our relationship, yet still calls me by pet names when he comes to collect DD. He says he does plan to see the GP and seek help but “needs to do that for himself”. He cancelled a GP appointment this week.

Everyone is telling me that one day he’ll wake up and realise the enormous mistake, but I just don’t think he wants to work on things. I wish he did, but he says doesn’t want to leave me dangling while he sorts his head out. I think that is a coward’s way of saying he doesn’t want me anymore but he’s not brave enough to be direct.

So sorry for the long post - I guess a month’s worth of emotions pouring out! I’m really starting to feel the anger now and main focus for me is getting back to work.

Viking64 · 20/10/2017 12:56

Hi everyone not so many posts of late which I think is a good thing.bit sad today because my old mum passed away yesterday but not feeling too bad.a little while ago I may have reacted differently
with what was going on so progress all around really.
Newton I know what you mean about communication and ignoring I've done that from day one and it works I have had to tell my son to ask her to stop trying to contact me.
Wellyboots it's good to have someone remind you that you are doing a great job as a dad and maybe the fact you are pleasant to her is why she's cold to you.my wife seemed irritated by the fact I was coping according to my son.
Moomincake what you are feeling is proper grief right now all of us here have felt it and still do.Don't waste your emotions on anger you have no control over his actions but you have your own. If you start feeling sorry for yourself think stop that's what I used to do because if I didn't I would sink lower and lower and stay there. Don't wait for him to change his mind because he won't sorry but all of us have learnt that lastly welcome there are some good people here who will listen please message me if you want to chat or rant doesn't matter which

Wellyboots86 · 20/10/2017 14:12

viking sorry to hear about your mum, glad you feel able to cope though. Good sign that new life is suiting you I guess.

moomincake welcome and sorry for what's brought you to us. I was with my stbxw 16 years and you'd think that amount of time would mean something but in hindsight she was emotionally dead to me a while before we finally split as I'd be crying when we talked about mechanics of separation and she'd just be as calm as if we were planning a trip to the shops!

I suffer from depression too and from experience I can say that you aren't always aware of how your mood and actions are affecting those around you. I think even if he does realise he's made a mistake, the foundations have shifted now and it'll be a real struggle to move past this, sorry.

Hope we can provide some inspiration for you, as Viking said, we've all been where you are now

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