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Divorce/separation

Here you'll find divorce help and support from other Mners. For legal advice, you may find Advice Now guides useful.

Further support for those starting the divorce process

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NotJanine · 11/04/2017 09:22

New thread so we can carry on supporting each other Smile

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SoMuchHurt890 · 30/04/2017 11:30

I got a 'what more do you want?' this morning.
Well....er, for the boys and I not to have been put through this hell in the first place? For the man I love (loved?) not to have got another woman pregnant and turned our lives upside down? That's what I really want, but I can't have that can I....
I didnt care about half a house, maintenance, etc etc. I cared about our children, him, my family. I did all I possibly could to provide a happy home. To be supportive, understanding, loving. But it didn't get me anywhere! So now I have to change tack and not be that (with him) so I don't get walked all over!!

JaffaCakesMum · 30/04/2017 12:26

Somuch, what you are going through sounds so similar to me. It doesn't see to matter what I do I can't quite get away from him. I think there are two main reasons for that. Firstly, he paid the mortgage so sees it as his house and it is his pension so he has difficulty understanding why I should get anything. Secondly, he needs to keep control over me to make him feel secure. I know he accepts what the law is, ie. a basic half each but he is delaying giving me anything. We are supposed to be putting the house up for sale on the 23rd of May (date of DD2's last Higher exam) but he hasn't done anything to the house to finish things off, the garden is a tip and we haven't agreed a financial settlement. He was originally going to move out on 1st Dec last year but nothing happened. Yes, I could go to court but don't want the cost, the added timescale and the stress. I do try so hard to be 'nice' to him or at least ignore him but when he kicks off I am standing up for myself more and more but that can often bring out the worst in me and him. I just want to move to a wee house for me and my 2 DD's but he just keeps saying that I am just thinking about myself and couldn't care less about the girls. If you do find an effective way of dealing with your arsehole please pass on your tips. I don't want to live like this anymore.

SoMuchHurt890 · 30/04/2017 12:38

It's so expensive here that I couldn't afford to buy another house with half of this. So I have to stay.
Now my dog has just had his first fit in 8 months 🙁 He's very disorientated...

Helpmeltb · 30/04/2017 13:57

Somuch - hope your dog is ok Flowers

I almost had a car accident today on the way to a viewing of a house, where the estate agent eventually had to ring the office to find out where the vendor was as she has the keys. Apparently she "forgot" so I've had to rearrange for next week. How do you forget you're selling a house? Confused

ANewDawn · 30/04/2017 15:05

Tips on dealing with your arsehole Grin

I feel like I'm stuck with no resolution. Just him stringing it out. I think he's hiding money. And yes, I'm sure he knows it's 50:50 but I get the impression he thinks he's special and the law doesn't apply to him.

Properjob · 30/04/2017 16:54

Hello all sorry to hear your stress is bad at the moment. Yes I've had a couple of near misses in the car I keep telling myself to keep calm, drive slowly...I'm sorry you are not getting help SoMuch and Jaffa can't believe your solicitor not helping more! Jeff's can Women's Aid advise you on the phone on how to handle him he does sound abusive...the BH is worse isn't it stuck at home with them around. Keep going girls, just hang in there. Flowers

Bobbins43 · 30/04/2017 17:27

waves hello

Just checking in really. Still no word from STBXH re divorce papers so I've had to resort to having court bailiffs deliver the papers.

They are working on a 17 day delay at the moment and after that, I have to give him another 29 working days before I can apply for the nisi.

I'm not holding out any hope that he'll be responding. Although maybe it's better this way. I just want it over with tbh. Anyway. Hope you're all hanging in there x

ANewDawn · 30/04/2017 18:06

Bobbins - I might be in the same position, STBXH hasn't responded so far and sol has written again to ask him to acknowledge. How much is it costing you to have them served? Can you claim it back from STBXH? It's shit, isn't it?

Bobbins43 · 30/04/2017 19:02

It is shit. I'm entitled to help with court costs so it isn't costing me anything at the moment. I can't believe how expensive divorce is.

Properjob · 01/05/2017 00:12

Honestly I do think sometimes we should gong up together and stage an intervention. You know, turn up at whomever's house and stand together with them insisting that the stbxh shape up,man up, cooperate, think of the children and be reasonable, right now, instead of being such a CC. Why on earth should we have to out up with this... Been watching old series of Line of Duty tonight so feeling militant. ..Grin

ANewDawn · 01/05/2017 10:14

Grin yay to being militant. Watched the last episode of Line of Duty last night. Bereft. What do I do now ?

PandoraMole · 01/05/2017 14:06

Just had a barny with my mum followed by a heated convo over the phone with CC (along the lines of 'ffs get your finger out so we can put the house on the market as there is going to be WW3 if we have to live here much longer').

Grrrr when will it ever end? AngrySad

noodles44 · 01/05/2017 23:09

I feel your pain pandora it is so frustrating when you feel powerless to move things along. My ex has been ominously silent since I had a string of hassling texts a couple of weeks ago. The calm before the next storm more than likely, am beginning to wonder if he has met someone else as so out of character! I need to chase my solicitor again next week as have no idea if he has responded to the petition etc. Am guessing not. He has said he will not buy me out, so I am in limbo until he puts the house on the market or changes his mind and remortgages. No end in sight yet, but a nice relaxing weekend has been had with hardly any anxious moments... Thanks for the caffeine tip jaffacakes not 100% sure I am ready to forgo it completely, or dark chocolate, but I have cut back a lot!

Helpmeltb · 02/05/2017 18:38

FFS

I have found a rental, I have paid for them to do referencing.......now dickhead has decided he's not happy with the settlement AGAIN!!!!! I have asked for 50/50 on the house and pension as a lump sum (this is pretty much the minimum I need to buy a house) and I have been saving for 4 months to cover (a) solicitor costs for consent order (b) bond/fees/first month's rent on the rental cos he wants me out asap and I'm sick of living with him (c) furniture that's needed as soon as I move out. Apparently because I haven't been paying the bills, he wants to keep the £575 he's already been ordered to pay Angry. He's going to hold everything up over £600 when I'm only going for 50/50 despite earning less and being a sahm for 8 years.

He got a resounding "no" from me, along with a "if you don't take it, I might as well fight for 70% of the equity" and a "are you seriously going to hold this up again over £600" ...at which point he said that I'm the one that held it up for a year while I saved for him to buy me out...perhaps I should have pulled 12k out of my arse HmmAngry

ANewDawn · 02/05/2017 18:59

Does him not paying mean you can't move into the rental?

ANewDawn · 02/05/2017 19:03

I've found out from DD, - she tells me stuff, I don't ask her- that STBXH doesn't understand why we can't all live together Hmm DD says 'because mum doesn't want to do that' 😂 DD keeps telling him she wants to get the move sorted out. He's a fucker. I've told her as much as I can do without slagging him off.

Dickhead still hasn't done anything. Had to chase sol to see if they've sent the second letter asking him to acknowledge petition. Next stop is getting papers served. Fucker

ANewDawn · 02/05/2017 19:04

Fucking fucker. Fuck fuck fuck. He's just dragging his heels because he can. Fucker.

noodles44 · 02/05/2017 21:04

No further along here either, my ex has been most definitely dragging his heels too... He has been a fantastic Disney dad this weekend, kids got home tonight and because there is no routine at his & late nights, I have had a complete nightmare getting them to bed. I am pleased he has finally pulled his finger out and done something fun with them, but weirdly feel a bit jealous too. I feel like I am the boring everyday one and he (who misses the kids like mad but never sees/contacts them other than the EOW arrangement) can do fun when he gets his act together... That said I know I have a good support network & do do fun stuff with them too. I have booked a camping weekend for a few weeks time & cannot wait!

Helpmeltb · 02/05/2017 23:35

My solicitor advised me to stay in the house so he has an incentive to sort the finances without me having the cost of forcing it through court. I thought we were finally agreed and so has looked for (and have found) a rental because they can be hard to find here. I'm probably going to move out still and take the risk because I'm utterly fed up of being here.

ANewDawn · 03/05/2017 08:50

HelpMe - I'm so sorry Flowers I wouldn't blame you about moving out. It's an awful situation to be in and toxic for everyone. The thing is, I think my STBXH doesn't mind and sees it's preferable to the alternative. That's how fuckerd up he is.

Noodles - did the jealousy take you a bit by suprise? You sound quite positive on the whole and you can lean on your support. Flowers

NotJanine · 03/05/2017 09:02

helpme hope he comes to his senses and sorts himself out. I'm getting 50% despite having sacrificed any career, for him to pursue his, and having the DCs full time. They still believe the myth of the grabby ex wife...

I'm annoyed as I thought I'd get the consent order raised last week, but the solicitors I've been talking to now can't do it as wasband has been to them for advice :-( Seems that they'd never actually opened a file for me. So now I have to find another solicitor. I've contacted a couple but they're all busy, so further delays!!!

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RoseNarene · 03/05/2017 12:48

Hello all

Just adding my little story to this thread in the hopes of finding some support, as I appear to be losing the will to live somewhat....

Getting a divorce because ex had been 'sexting' with another woman, bought her lingerie (which was apparently meant for me!!) and turned up at her house when he told me he had gone to the pub. Both parties swear they haven't slept together but who knows?! Found out the whole thing when the woman in question messaged me to explain her side and I asked her to send me the screenshots of their conversations... including pictures of himself and videos, too. I'm sure she only sent me the stuff that cast her in a positive light so no doubt there's more to be seen, but it doesn't matter now.

I don't really know what ex wants, tbh. Firstly he was just in a state because he got found out. I started the divorce process as quickly as possible because I want this done with as quickly as possible. His solicitor has been sending letters to my solicitor asking her to talk to me about delaying the process. He wants to go for the 2 year separation thing, in case, as his mum puts it, I change my mind!!!! His parents are being a nightmare; they just can't understand why I won't forgive him and keep on telling me so. She even started comparing our marriage to a fragile vase and that if we put the effort in to repair it, this effort will be the glue that makes it stronger than ever... yeah, I laughed too!!! My parents haven't stuck their noses in to have a go at my ex, so quite why the ex-in-laws think they have a right to have a go is beyond me.

Now that my ex has accepted the fact we are divorcing, he has been really difficult... we have a mortgage together so he's insisting on being at the house half the time, which is annoying but fair I suppose, since it is his house too. He's done all sorts of crazy shit like take all his clothes off - yes, take all his clothes off, butt naked - to embarrass my friend enough so that she would leave me alone with him. He hung outside the house in his car for an hour when me and my sister and friend were inside. He's been making demands as to who can and cannot be in the house, which I have ignored.

He's now put the bombshell on me that he wants to take the kids and the house!!! He won't tell me why he thinks they are better off with him than me, but he thinks (and so his solicitor has apparently said) that he has a really good chance of taking them away from me as sole resident parent because of a very old text message exchange in which we discuss the possibility of me going full time in the future (he is currently full time; I'm 2 days a week). My solicitor says this is rubbish and doesn't believe that his solicitor told him he had a chance of winning on that basis. I just had my first mediation meeting on my own but when we get to the joint meeting, I really don't think my ex is going to drop the residency thing so it will end up going to court. I honestly think he only wants the kids so he will get the house because the house has sentimental value to my side of the family (my dad and late grandmother used to live there). He's just trying to hurt me.

My solicitor says I should go for sole residency and give him every other weekend with the kids (Friday after school, to Monday school drop off), plus one night in the week fortnightly. I think this is fair if they are in the family home to maintain stability and continuity as 4 year old starts school in September. Does this sound fair to the rest of you? It's a funny thing for me to be thinking about as no one I know has ever got divorced so I don't have anyone else to talk to about what generally happens with these things...

The richest thing about it all is that he keeps saying this is MY fault because I made the decision to go for divorce! He says I'm the one who wants all this. He is so arrogant, so manipulative... can anyone else relate to the sense of shame and embarrassment that I feel when I look back at how I didn't see this coming? How I should have because of other kind of controlling / manipulative things he's done? How I never saw my life descending as low brow as an episode of Jeremy Kyle?!??! He even asked me the other day if he wanted me to pick the girls up from nursery and take them home and cook dinner for the three of us (as in, not him) and then he would leave when I got back from work. I said no because I didn't want or need his help and he got all funny about it, saying he was trying to offer an olive branch!! I just said to him, no olive branch you can offer is going to be of any consequence when you're trying to take the girls away from me. Seriously, what is going on in this man's head?!

Ugh, I hate this all so much... when will it be over?!

Hermonie2016 · 03/05/2017 17:14

Rose, I was listening to a divorce lawyer on the radio and he described divorce as a roller coaster for both sides however they got on at different stages so have different up & downs.Its a fair description of what can be am awful process.
I think it's highly unlikely he would get care if you have mostly been there as courts like to maintain the status quo so as not to disrupt children.Your proposal sounds reasonable.

If your stbxh is behind the curve emotionally it may take a while for him to start being reasonable.My ex is similar so hostile as I don't believe he thought I would instigate the separation.

My ds has been extremely upset lately and it has me regretting the divorce but equally I know stbxh could not have changed as I'll not sure if he is a nice person. I feel very sad for my dc, they are wonderful children who don't deserve this upheaval to their lives.

Pandora, any progress for You?
NotJanine, will the settlement be ok for you to manage post divorce?

ANewDawn · 03/05/2017 18:02

Welcome Rose. I hope your STBXH calms down and thinks reasonably so you can try and get through this as easily as possible. His actions are a bit alarming. Have you mentioned the stripping off to the solicitor? Not sure that would make any difference other than inform them of his state of mind. I hope the kids weren't there

My STBXH ah bbugger he's home. Back later

PandoraMole · 03/05/2017 20:34

Hi all and welcome Rose - sounds like you're doing remarkably well under the circumstances. Have you found a decent solicitor yet?

Wasband agreed verbally last week to my latest proposal for financial settlement. After asking him 3 times to confirm via email so I have his agreement in writing, I have gone ahead and instructed my solicitor and asked her to add a covering letter saying that if he refuses to sign it or wants to make changes he can bear the full expense. I just cannot be doing with any more fannying around.

Have had a very difficult few days with mum, busy at work and have performance management review tomorrow or Friday which is more worry that I don't need (I was made redundant several times in my twenties and any kind of 1-2-1 work meetings make me extremely anxious).

On the upside DD is going for a sleepover on Saturday and I'm going out with a very old school friend who I haven't seen for 14 years. He was actually my prom date when we left high school Grin!