The Coronation disgusted me, bring down the monarchy

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Coronation rant

Well I for one am absolutely disgusted at the coronation. It was the most blatant Display of the ‘haves’ flaunting what they have stolen from the ‘have nots’ I have ever seen.

First major theft

Between £100 million and £250 million cost of the coronation paid for by taxpayers

WTF!!! Who sanctioned that off? Do they not realise we have a cost of living crisis, many of their subjects are living below the breadline, can’t afford to heat their homes, can’t afford to buy the food their family needs, our country has been robbed and pillaged by the conservatives. And someone somewhere sanctioned upto £250 mil for a glorified party for the elite!!

Firstly, they should have paid for it themselves. Who pays for your child’s party? Or for your wedding? You and if you’re lucky, your family chip in. If someone told me the state would pay for my wedding for example, yes I might get a very expensive dress, I might have a free bar and some might see that as piss taking. But how about having hundreds of horses and guards paid to practice for months to put on an elaborate display in the streets? The security (yes they need a lot of security because their stealing from the people) all that money for what?? History, tradition? You can stick tradition where the sun doesn’t shine if it means that we the tax payers have far less for us for the next few years.

Can you imagine what would happen if that money was shared between the poorest 30% in this country? That would a country I would be proud to be part of, I am not proud of that disgusting coronation.

Second major theft

All the robes and jewels and wealth displayed which reflects the brutal thievery from other countries, from the commonwealth, which they have amassed and kept over the years. Can you imagine if those things were sold and the proceeds given to those who need it most? That is a country I would be proud of.

The people invited are mainly elite and rich. So yet again, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. And the rich use the poor peoples money to pay for all of the security to stop the poor from protesting against this blatant theft.

I disagree with a class system because it upholds the belief that we are not all equal. I am a huge fan of equality and I hate bullying, theft, and enforcement of class.

We need to find a peaceful way to end the royal family. It’s outdated and doesn’t represent our country.

End the monarchy now

And yes, I know there are other threads about this, we need to keep taking about it...

I actually agree with you. I don’t know how the senior royals can visit hospitals and food banks then stand there in all that jewellery and expensive clothing. How can they look at themselves in the mirror and say ‘I deserve all this, I am special,’ it is so backwards.

I keep seeing this horseshit

Everyone comparing about the countries monarchy are looking for something that better resembles communism. Where the rich and the poor are 'allocated' a fair percentage of income.

How about this. If you work 'hard' and intelligently chose a career than is proven to earn well you can reap the rewards of that?

The royals will be royals in spite of all this crap. And even if they cancelled it and never spent the money do you think all those who actually struggling to eat and heat right now would even get a meagre sniff of the £250m ?

It's definitely not the individuals I'm against, it's the idea, the principle of a royal family. It's in the interests of the elite to keep them there. Hence the firm and their strong arm tactics to keep these traditions in place.

Can you imagine what would happen if that money (250 million=) was shared between the poorest 30% in this country?

No need to imagine, do the sums. The UK population is 67 Million.
30 % of 67,000000 .. lets call it 25 million, for ease of calculation.

If you shared 250 million between 25 million people they'd get ten quid each.

But no street party.

I watched it...historical event and all that. But it does embody the class system which doesn't just live on due to those at the "top of the tree"....plenty of people oppressed, marginalized and impoverished by the system are all over the royal family like a hot itchy rash. I don't really understand why, but takes all sorts 🤷🏻‍♀️ Happy for those who enjoyed it!

Loved the Queen but those days are gone, so yesterday just felt a bit depressing.

and I agree with everyone that says the real problem is the government.

Our political system is broken, the government have no constitution to follow so they make up any old manifesto then do as they please once they are in power.

The government is the real issue that needs to be fixed.

But I don't agree with one family being held up above all others. Equality is what we all need to aim for.

Love that you posted this in Crime, a topic I didn't even know existed

How about this. If you work 'hard' and intelligently chose a career than is proven to earn well you can reap the rewards of that?

No. Some People are born into family money and have every right to keep it.

The existence of the royal family legitimises the concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few people...unearned and undeserved wealth and power in the hands of a few unelected people.

Did somebody just say they work harder than the rest of us? 😂

Very good point

It’s not a crime so shouldn’t be in this forum.

Ever heard that old saying ‘be the change you want to see’? Instead of starting another forum thread on this subject why don’t you go and join Republic and campaign for an end to the monarchy via the democratic process? That’s the only way it’s going to happen. And in a democracy it’s the only way it should happen.

Cough, cough, democracy. Have you seen yesterday’s arrests? Obviously not saying this is the end of things, or it’s Russia already, but don’t be so dismissive of other’s opinions.

Throughly enjoyed it and there is a fantastic article in the guardian opinion today entitled it was ludicrous but also magnificent- you should take a read OP

I totally agree with you OP!

@crazeekat "...but the people will choose the President." Yes, and if that's the argument, then fine. If the majority of the people wish to have a president then it will happen eventually.
My post wasn't about that. It was about the cost, which will not decrease and will likely increase.
Yes, presidents can be thrown out of office, but the costs do not stop there. And political heads of state come with their own problems, which are for life. Why will Jimmy Carter have a full state funeral even though he was thrown out of office after only 4 years, and hasn't served for over 50 years? Because dead presidents and their funerals are good for a bump in the polls for their political party. IOW, it's all politics, forever, when you have political heads of state.

I don't have a dog in this hunt. But I do think if you're discussing changing the way you choose your head of state, you want to think it through completely.

I understand your perspectives but how do you define Equality

Unless you have a communist system where everyone is bog standard, one size fits all then how do you draw the lines.

That's the thing you could give everyone one million pounds and give it a couple of years then you will have people that some save, some invest and some spend, and basically back to how society was, it's down to the individual's to be better overall

I’ll PayPal you £1 if you’re that hard up ffs

Try using some of what critical thinking to work out what £1 for every person, from each of us, would cost

Compassion is lost in your words.... bitterness is clear.

The world isn't equal, would I like to see those in Africa with clean water available... yes, but that's not going to happen, there's too much corruption! That doesn't mean I lack compassion! But I'm also not going to feed into that corruption.

The world isn't equal, there'll never be one class system, everyone plays the I'm alright jack no matter what class or political preference. I assume you have clean running water and access to some kind of income (state or otherwise). This makes you a class above many in the world if applying your logic.

Give back, be kind, offer support to those around you, let go of the anger and bitterness!

They have the right to say x, but society has the right to say we don't want you causing a conspiracy to disrupt the peace, there for they were rightly arrested.

Exactly, what’s that £10 going to do, fuck all

Couldn't agree more. My little ones were quite enthralled so I was happy to allow them to experience a dose of the coronation. That aside, it is quite grotesque and I'd much prefer to get rid of the monarchy and those are the types of conversations I have with my older child.

I do find royalists a bit weird.

Between £100 million and £250 million cost of the coronation paid for by taxpayers

So that's £100-250 million coming straight back into the economy and helping to promote growth, to say nothing of the money generated in the hospitality and tourism industries and by selling TV rights. And that in turn means more jobs which means less poverty. Win-win, it seems to me.

Discussing it openly like this is part of 'be the change you want to see in this world'.

Getting more people discussing the ins and outs, the possibilities does create change.

Other things do too, I'm also doing other things.

I agree with you, I didn't watch and I find it gross.