The Coronation disgusted me, bring down the monarchy

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Coronation rant

Well I for one am absolutely disgusted at the coronation. It was the most blatant Display of the ‘haves’ flaunting what they have stolen from the ‘have nots’ I have ever seen.

First major theft

Between £100 million and £250 million cost of the coronation paid for by taxpayers

WTF!!! Who sanctioned that off? Do they not realise we have a cost of living crisis, many of their subjects are living below the breadline, can’t afford to heat their homes, can’t afford to buy the food their family needs, our country has been robbed and pillaged by the conservatives. And someone somewhere sanctioned upto £250 mil for a glorified party for the elite!!

Firstly, they should have paid for it themselves. Who pays for your child’s party? Or for your wedding? You and if you’re lucky, your family chip in. If someone told me the state would pay for my wedding for example, yes I might get a very expensive dress, I might have a free bar and some might see that as piss taking. But how about having hundreds of horses and guards paid to practice for months to put on an elaborate display in the streets? The security (yes they need a lot of security because their stealing from the people) all that money for what?? History, tradition? You can stick tradition where the sun doesn’t shine if it means that we the tax payers have far less for us for the next few years.

Can you imagine what would happen if that money was shared between the poorest 30% in this country? That would a country I would be proud to be part of, I am not proud of that disgusting coronation.

Second major theft

All the robes and jewels and wealth displayed which reflects the brutal thievery from other countries, from the commonwealth, which they have amassed and kept over the years. Can you imagine if those things were sold and the proceeds given to those who need it most? That is a country I would be proud of.

The people invited are mainly elite and rich. So yet again, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. And the rich use the poor peoples money to pay for all of the security to stop the poor from protesting against this blatant theft.

I disagree with a class system because it upholds the belief that we are not all equal. I am a huge fan of equality and I hate bullying, theft, and enforcement of class.

We need to find a peaceful way to end the royal family. It’s outdated and doesn’t represent our country.

End the monarchy now

And yes, I know there are other threads about this, we need to keep taking about it...

In utopian communist countries where apparently everyone is equal ,😂

We collectively find ways to bridge the gap, get a decent government in for a start, join together to revolt against elitism, we need to end the class system, snobbery, people looking down their noses at each other.

If you earn more than your neighbour, that's small beer compared to what's happening at the extremes, we all need to find ways to make this a more equal country. There are countries with a much smaller wealth divide, we should be aiming for that. Helping the vulnerable and disadvantaged and those 'haves' who flaunt their wealth rather than help others, they are the ones who should be ashamed.

We live with a monarchy, you can always go away and live in a republic or a communist state where supposedly everyone is equal.

Before y'all throw the baby out with the bathwater, keep in mind that you need a head of state, and Presidents aren't exactly cheap. As an American, I pay for the current President to the tune of many hundreds of millions of $ a year, plus 5 former presidents, each of whom gets a nice salary, 24/7 security for them and their family members wherever they happen to live or travel, paid staff and office expenses, etc., again to the tune of many millions a year each. And that doesn't include the cost of additional state funerals (We likely have one coming up soon for Jimmy Carter, who left office more than 50 years ago, but the taxpayers will pick up the full tab.) Then there are the costs of extra elections, which you would need to conduct every few years.

The idea of a royal family may be abhorrent to some, but the cost factor isn't a viable argument. Presidents and ex-Presidents cost a whole lot more than a monarch and family ever will.

Which countries with a smaller wealth divide are you meaning??

Ah yes but thank goodness for your superior wisdom.

There has always and will always be the haves and have nots and many events highlight this. I would argue that although they have material things there’s a lot they don’t have and I’m not jealous of their lives at all. Whether we have a monarchy or not, those who stole land in wars in days gone by will still be the “haves”.

Doing away with the RF would seem to make a more equal and fair society less likely if you look at the nations that have done away with theirs and how their societies are now.

I enjoyed it personally. Perhaps you should take a walk. Might ease some of that tension.

Well that's a start, I'd hate to be born in his position, he must feel embarrassed at times and wish for a life where he isn't fearing being killed just for existing in that role.

Good for him also for having less lords and ladies there and more normal people who do good. It's a step in the right direction and shows some Sensitivity.

Is it that time of the hour again?

Seeing less people struggling to eat or heat would ease my tension.

Yes I would like to know what British values have been lost as well. Somehow I think that I will be in for a long wait?

well said.

The most that the royal family are is symbols* *or symptoms of something you don’t like. Getting rid would not solve this countries entrenched problems. That’s not a reason not to get rid, but it is a difficulty when it comes to convincing other people that it is a necessary or important thing to do.

Agree, but not entirely.
Some of the pomp is appreciated by a lot of the country and the forces have their uniforms already, so I’m OK with us taxpayers paying for that.
BUT any new clothes, thrones, spectacle required by Gov or the Royal Family (one of the personally richest families in the world) should have been paid for by THEM.
If he was paying himself Charles could decide more clearly if he really wanted a £million refurb for a pneumatic suspension, air-conditionined coach that’ll only be used once or twice etc. Maybe it would make decisions about down-sizing easier if they had to budget and economise like the rest of us, and like European Royal families.

Totally agree.

I think the OP picks and chooses the facts she relates. No mention of the billions in revenue.

Years ago I worked for the royal family. Years ago. 1990's

They are not as powerful as you seem to think hence my post about Charles managing to cut out and scale down. The royal family are just puppets, it's all run behind the scenes by what Diana referred to as 'the firm'

He would have had to work hard to get those small changes

OP are you sharing your wealth out? You will be better off than some people. Are you donating time and money to people more disadvantaged than yourself? Are you giving away 40p of every £1 you earn?

It’s getting boring now I’m beginning to think that most of the posts are just to stir up discontent but I will bite, I loved it and have the upmost respect for all the RF, bar two. They work very hard harder than most of the rest of us and provide a constitutional balance in the country. I can think of nothing worse than an elected head of state we would probably have had, Blair, Boris etc etc because they have the ability to pull in votes. We have a system and it works well. You of course are fully entitled to your opinion and I would defend that principle to the end. As for the money once you had shared it out it wouldn’t help anyone. Also remember that they hold in trust the palaces Crown Jewels and land for the country. So sorry but you are in the minority and are likely to remain so.

They did that TV show already. Think David Walliams was the PM that made it happen.

I suspect many members of the royal family would like to be 'got rid of' actually!!

yes - do this OP if you aren’t happy living in UK

I’m all for having a monarchy - we need tourism in this country and the Royal Family is a huge draw.

You are right. But the people will choose the president. And if they don't serve fairly and keep to their vows they are held accountable and are out.
Completely different to the royal family your comparison is irrelevant on so many levels therefore your baby is out the bathwater sorry.

Ahh yes, just like the people have been trusted to vote for government for 600 years and we've ended up with the current mess we're in!

If you want a revolution OP, revolt against the government not the monarchy. That might actually improve things.

There are very rich and very poor people in every country OP. Getting rid of The British Royal Family isn’t going to change that.