Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Victims of crime

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. For free advice contact Victim Support.https://www.victimsupport.org.uk/

Strange disappearances and crimes

321 replies

ENoeuf · 22/01/2022 11:40

Started this as we’ve veered off topic on the AG thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4450831-New-development-on-missing-Andrew-Gosden-case

OP posts:
ENoeuf · 22/01/2022 19:28

@dayswithaY oh that’s right. Just wondering why would be awful - always thinking you’d missed something or there was a secret life going on.

OP posts:
Snooks1971 · 22/01/2022 19:47

@ENoeuf

‘Knobhead101

Following - some deeply upsetting stuff on here though.‘

Hopefully if we stay respectful we can talk about mysteries, unexplained crimes without causing offence. I know it interests me but I don’t want to be ghoulish. I’m sure others are similar.

This is how I feel @ENoeuf

I always read these type of threads and watch docs on YouTube etc

I’m not sure why I’m particularly fascinated - and I don’t think my interest is ghoulish either…. It’s just hard to wrap my head around how these poor people seemingly vanish. Makes me sad and wish I could solve the cases!

Thank you for the thread, I very rarely post!

ButlerAndButler · 22/01/2022 19:48

In his younger (and more stupid) days dh went to sleep in a recycling bin. He had been separated form his friends and couldn't afford the taxi back to camp by himself, so decided to climb into one and use the cardboard to keep warm.

He woke up to the noise of the bin lorry reversing in the morning.

AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair · 22/01/2022 19:56

@ButlerAndButler

In his younger (and more stupid) days dh went to sleep in a recycling bin. He had been separated form his friends and couldn't afford the taxi back to camp by himself, so decided to climb into one and use the cardboard to keep warm.

He woke up to the noise of the bin lorry reversing in the morning.

Sadly drunk young men sleeping in bins is a not uncommon event and there are numerous instances of them not having such a lucky escape
morbidd · 22/01/2022 19:58

The Milk Carton Kids in the UK. Police didn't take the kids disappearance seriously for 3 weeks. This was in the 90's. The family have been digging up an area on the back of a tip off from a documentary with David Wilson criminologist.

ButlerAndButler · 22/01/2022 20:01

@AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair It's something I just can't get my head around, I wonder if it's because when I was younger it was ingrained in us not to leave someone behind at the end of the night but with the groups of boys it was relatively common?

Imonaspendingban · 22/01/2022 20:05

My ex
He was a useless father who would pop up,be Disney dad to his boys for a few months then just disappear for 6 months/a year/18 months only to pop back up again-all the while refusing to pay for his children and was proud of it
He left my house saying he was going to his mums house before going home (she claims she didn’t see him)
He sent a packet of stickers to our son a few days later then just disappeared and non of us have heard a thing since-that was 10/11 years ago
His brother spoke to him a few hours after he left my place via WhatsApp but when he sent another message a week later,it didn’t go through
Part of me hopes he’s dead but he’s still my sons father and he has left a hole in his life
I would like to know what’s happened to him,even if it’s that he’s still alive but doesn’t want to contact us-only so my son knows the truth

Hyenaormeercat · 22/01/2022 20:13

My DF disappeared in 1968. Went to work, he had his own business. He didn't come home again. DM went looking for him but his business was locked up with no sign of him. I was a toddler.
I strongly suspect a double life.

QueenofLouisiana · 22/01/2022 20:20

@ShaneTheThird re: Corrie, a body was found in several bin bags in a river in my local town- around 20 miles from where he vanished. There was a huge amount of speculation that it would be him. It wasn’t. It remains another unsolved mystery.

ToffeeNotCoffee · 22/01/2022 20:32

There’s one where a couple arrived fir a business trip, she forgot her documents and came later than was going sightseeing while her husband attended a conference (I think) but she vanished and was found dead miles away.

Yeah, this one. The hint is that she did didn't forget her documents but deliberately went back to the house so she would miss the flight her husband was on and travel separately.

Her body was found several miles away, in a rural area. She had changed into hiking gear before she died.

louderthan · 22/01/2022 21:40

Lee Boxell is one that haunts me. He went off to a football match one Saturday afternoon in the mid 80s when he was 15 and has not been seen since.
There have since been investigations into an unofficial youth club he attended which is now thought to have been part of a paedophile ring. Horrible case.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisappearanceoffLeeBoxell

louderthan · 22/01/2022 21:41

The other one is Rebecca Coriam, another cruise ship disappearance. The investigation was thoroughly bungled.

BangingOn · 22/01/2022 21:50

@ToffeeNotCoffee that was Jeremiah Duggan. Incredibly sad and very disturbing once you delve into the details, especially the anti-Semitism. I knew Jeremiah years ago and my heart still breaks for his poor parents.

Thatbliddywoman · 22/01/2022 21:56

Trace evidence is an excellent podcast for things like this.

ENoeuf · 22/01/2022 22:01

Cruise ship disappearances are really horrifying. I think I believe they are usually falling overboard rather than trafficking or pushing. But what if there was someone who got a kick out of killing - perfect cover to say someone was drunk and fell. Hopefully there’s cctv everywhere now.

OP posts:
GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat · 22/01/2022 22:03

I watch the programme Disappeared on ID and it's really amazing how people can just disappear. I always think it's less likely to happen these days as we have more and more CCTV, home surveillance, digital payment, ANPR etc but it still does Sad

EditButtonEdith · 22/01/2022 22:06

Johnny gosch is one that I think about quite often. Was he taken by a paedophile ring? Did he really turn up at his mother's door as an adult and then vanish again? His mother's account is very believable but his father seems to think she lied.

MrsTimRiggins · 22/01/2022 22:08

@Hyenaormeercat

My DF disappeared in 1968. Went to work, he had his own business. He didn't come home again. DM went looking for him but his business was locked up with no sign of him. I was a toddler. I strongly suspect a double life.
Gosh that’s shocking. How awful to never know.
ENoeuf · 22/01/2022 22:12

MrsTimRiggins

Hyenaormeercat
My DF disappeared in 1968. Went to work, he had his own business. He didn't come home again. DM went looking for him but his business was locked up with no sign of him. I was a toddler.
I strongly suspect a double life.
Gosh that’s shocking. How awful to never know.

Yes, I’m sorry I meant to comment to say how difficult that must be for you, hyenaormeerkat

OP posts:
Pootle40 · 22/01/2022 22:14

@prettyteapotsplease

I'll always wonder about Genette Tate who went missing many years ago when on her paper round in Devon, also Claudia Lawrence couldn't have just vanished into thin air.
I'm sure I've read in a few places that there in strong evidence genette was killed by serial killer Robert black but he is dead now so case won't be tried
CorneliusVetch · 22/01/2022 22:28

A 2 year old named DeOrr Kunz vanished into thin air while on a remote camping trip in Idaho with his parents, great grandfather and his friend.

Parents say they left him with the great grandfather to go fishing but he was gone when they returned. Great grandfather says never asked to look after him.

The whole thing is odd because the campsite is incredibly remote and a long drive away, and setting off there with a toddler after work with no supplies (they stopped for groceries) is a little unusual. The parents are thought to be being untruthful, in fact one private detective acting pro Bono stopped working with them as he felt they were lying.

Theories are he wandered off because the great grandad wasn’t watching him properly, and died of eg exposure, but also lots think the camping trip was a smokescreen. Was he already dead and they needed somewhere to hide the body? But the friend, the only one who has been consistent throughout, says he did see DeOrr alive at the campsite.

Or, and this is the part that creeps me out because this is what I think, did the parents give him away/sell him to someone and needed to be somewhere discreet to do so? If this is right, I hope it was to someone with good intentions and DeOrr is out there somewhere with a new family, oblivious and happy.

No trace of poor little DeOrr has ever been found.

BorderlineHappy · 22/01/2022 22:31

I would say a very small portion disappeared of their own accord.

There's been a couple of cases of cars being found submerged in water with people in them.

makingmiracles · 22/01/2022 22:55

Yeah that are actual diving groups in America who dive looking for submerged cars and trucks, often with human remains in them, in order to bring closure to people still looking for them.
Have seen them on TikTok.

Missingindevon · 22/01/2022 22:56

Glynn Rennie went missing from Plymouth in 2014 after occupy Plymouth fell apart, he never liked me but it haunts me not knowing.

Every now and again I think of him, there has been basically no appeals beyond the original I don't know if he died or he just didn't want to be found? What happens if your not actually missing you just don't want to be in contact with your family and want to start a new?

Missingindevon · 22/01/2022 23:04

He was close to his mum and regularly called her so I'm not sure why he would just disappear and not contact her. My ex thinks he probably fell off a cliff or something... I honestly don't know. I always thought when people went missing that there was a big thing news coverage etc....