Strange disappearances and crimes

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Started this as we’ve veered off topic on the AG thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4450831-New-development-on-missing-Andrew-Gosden-case

There's a great book series called missing 411 that covers loads of random, mysteries disappearances. There's also a YouTuber called MrBAllen who covers a few of these cases also. Some solved and some not.
I hope this thread keeps getting revived as it draws attention to all those that were never found, and hopefully one day someone who knows something will read it and provide the missing piece of the puzzle.

Why would he get into a wheelie, or any other type of bin, for that matter.

@KatherineJaneway
Friends had stated he'd climbed in bins drunk before. Odd thing to do but there you go.

Drunk young men climbing into bins isn't uncommon at all, there a number of such deaths every year

There might be mysteries in that case but being in a bin isn't one of them

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The disappearance of Patrick Warren and David Spencer is one I always think of. It was the Christmas after I had ds2 and I kept thinking oftheir families wondering where they were.. deceased. Here

@Elderflower14
I had never heard of those young boys going missing.
How devastating for them, their families and friends.

Drunk young men climbing into bins isn't uncommon at all, there a number of such deaths every year

I was genuinely shocked to learn of this - having been drunk a lot in my youth I can't imagine ever thinking this was a good idea.

@Elderflower14 god that’s a horrible devastating story. Never knew about that one 😞

@Elderflower14 I watched a programme about that case a short while ago. A police officer said that at the time they were considered to be 'streetwise' and the initial investigation was coloured by that attitude. He said now they would be considered 'vulnerable'.

Somerton man may have been solved.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerton_Man#Abbott_claims_to_identify_the_man

I wonder if this is what happened in the case of Owami Davies?

All the panic and high profile campaigning and then she’s found safe and well and doesn’t want to go home.

Makes you think maybe she was escaping something?

Claudia Lawrence
I lived (at the time) in a street she passed on her way to work
my parents live up the road-she passed their house as well
my son lives a 2 minute walk from her house-it took them 5 years to look at the alleyway behind her house-my son saw them doing it,my dad was out on his motorbike around the area-the police couldn’t have been less interested when he contacted them to say he may have seen the man walking back towards the route she had taken to work (past the end of his street-my parents are the second house ‘in’ from the end of their street just off green dykes lane)
my ex was her bin man-it took them another year to interview him,due to the day she went missing,he emptied her bin
they couldn’t even get her hair colour right!
They victim blamed her for daring to have a sex life-I’ve heard comments like ‘she was a middle class girl who was hanging around with people who you wouldn’t think she would hang around with’
so in other words ‘she would shag anything,so she’s to blame’
talk about blaming the bloody victim for her own murder!
nothing seemed to move very fast-in a lot of the time,for years
i mean looking at the alley way-how much evidence was lost in 5 years?
it’s not a busy alley way but people have been down it
who was the bloke caught on cctv?
the car that drove down her street but slowed to a stop,then drove off?
I know that street well-the traffic lights are a lot further down,so they had no reason to stop there
6 years to interview people who where around her house (in my ex’s case,emptying the bin)
they arrested people,in some cases,years after-they arrested one people in a pub in acomb-which is miles from the nags head
another 6 months after she vanished,a bloke was arrested from down the road in heworth
what happened to her phone and rucksack?

people know what’s happened-and for whatever case (married,don’t want to grass,loyalty-who knows?) refuse to come forward

the case was a sham from the beginning-posh lady,who dared to have sex with someone ’lower’ than herself,has been murdered and it’s her own fault

I follow the Delphi case and Reddit is saying they are searching for possibly a weapon now. That would be an amazing case to see solved.

@Ziggyisthebestdogintheworld
I've read a fair bit on Claudias case and was shocked to see that the 'best friend' who was interviewed went in to marry one of men who was arrested from the local pub.

I read that and wondered if it was true
that would be the last thing I could do-after all,you’d have to sleep with both eyes open…

@OneFrenchEgg

Yes it would. Especially as they think it might have been 'cat fishing.' The person that owns the land their bodies were found on has since died.

The murderer returned to the crime scene the following day to pose their dead bodies. Disgusting.

Also, there was a cemetery with a car park nearby. Did the suspect park there ?

The police believe the murderer is hiding in plain sight.

Wow you'd have to be brave.

@ToffeeNotCoffee I'm not sure about returning to stage - there were still searchers overnight although officially called off - would have to have nerves of steel. The catfish thing makes sense, fingers crossed this is the break they needed.

Placemarking

Placeholding so I can read more about some of these stories.

Delphi has had a huge breakthrough with a suspect arrested.

And now charged

I recommend the Crime Junkie podcast.

@GnomeDePlume

Trial scheduled for March 2023