Referendum pt 2

[VoteNONO]

Started another thread as the first one was full.

You asked "what cancel culture" and I pointed out an example. And while she may have resigned, she was hounded out of her job.

How is that relevant to the Irish referendum?

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/fianna-fail-td-calls-for-government-to-drop-proposed-hate-speech-legislation-1599625.html

Love the headline 🤣 "Government must stop playing to the woke gallery". The msm will be next to start changing their tune. All are so predictable. Well bring it on, brilliant to see the tide turning.

How was your question relevant to the referendum?

Or far right.

Interesting editorial here from the Indo
https://m.independent.ie/opinion/editorial/editorial-fool-around-with-constitution-at-your-peril-voters-have-said/a165298889.html

Feeling slightly vindicated.

@WaveyGodshawk I just said upthread the mainstream media will suddenly switch their narrative just like all the tds & Sinn Féin today 🤣
The msm are as scared of losing their readers & subscribers as the TDs are about losing their seats.. All in it together & now turning on each other like rats 🍿at the ready!

The result of the referendum has given permission to silenced people to speak their lived truth and balance the woke/progressive agenda at last.

For that reason and many others I am delighted. And as for the IWC, well their funding, and that of ALL NGOs should be audited big time. Not for reasons of irregularity or fraud, but to see what (if any) other global entities they ascribe to in order to preach to us . Maybe there is more than Government funding going their way, who knows? Wasn't this said about anti abortion movements, so it's only fair that NGOs get similar treatment.

Anyway, outsourcing important and impactful social policy to unelected NGOs is anti democratic IMV and cannot go on for much longer. There are so many of them anyway each with a slice of the pie, and many of them have similar ideologies and could be merged. But where would the empire building and multiple CEO posts go then?

SF have changed their tune

m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fein-wont-re-run-family-and-care-referendums-if-we-get-into-government-matt-carthy-td/a372819168.html

@DublinFemale I'm delighted to read that. She has to take that stance. After her statement they would never get a vote again if the electorate thought they would have to go save mothers & women again from constitutional Siberia....

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2024/0311/1437260-odea-referendums/

More reverse ferreting from a TD who canvassed for Yes (with a pesky video from twitter showing this), but claims to have voted No.... she's from Mayo where they had 75%+ No for each vote, perhaps she's eyeing the upcoming European elections and realising she's out of touch with her local voters.

Gas but she canvassed Yes🤣 they really are scraping the barrel & seriously think the electorate are a bunch of fools! The government & mainstream media are so so predictable & transparent !

So Willie O'Dea and Lisa Chambers want to "run with the hare and race with the hounds".

Jesus wept.
Irish politicians huh ! 🙄🙄🙄
Do they take us for fools.

The funniest quote I saw today was
"I identify as Yes Yes but I voted No No" 🤣

To be fair to Willie O'Dea it's not the first time he's made comments about playing to the woke audience. He challenged that vacuous Helen McEntee that she should be tackling crime and to stop playing to the woke gallery last year.

Fuck around and find out

The more I listen the voters the more l am hearing especially from older women it's the word mother they opposed.

Please expand the role to include others but leave mother in there, but not at our expense.

TBH that was a huge part of my no vote. I don't want the only place mother exists erased.

It must be really shocking for some of the young and enlightened to discover that owl wans are allowed to vote!

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0312/1437344-tents-dublin/

This is a truely shocking read. Roderic O Gorman must resign. How was this allowed happen on his watch. I don't want to spark off an immigration debate or anything of the sort but this is a very sobering read & my heart goes out to those men trying to survive in those conditions.

I didn't say Stock lost her job. I said she was driven out. There is absolutely no other way of describing what happened.

I did not say woke was an ideology. Gender Identity is. It attempts to redefine language and enforce the use of those new meanings (like "she" meaning "he"; "woman" meaning "man"). If you're ok with that kind of redefinition of language you can surely stretch to understanding that "woke" is now widely used to refer to a particular mindset including by MSM (regardless of its origins).

That's true @honeyrider

The more I listen the voters the more l am hearing especially from older women it's the word mother they opposed.

I'd love to ask them the thinking behind this. Removing references to "women" in medical literature and replacing them with references to organs appeared to them to be such a popular move that removing "mother" from the constitution seemed like it would be popular? How, if they pay attention to anything, did they not see that it would go down like a bag of sick?

The Liveline show yesterday had caller after caller saying that removing the words mother and woman was a factor in their no vote. It also came up last night on Upfront and the Tonight Show. The difference between now and last week is that people feel that they can actually say it.

I have liveline queued up to listen as soon as these meetings that I'm paying very close attention to finishes.

I completely agree.

I have said it previously and stand by it.

I would and have said yes yes when asked prior to the vote, simply because it was easier. The path of least resistance.

On here I was honest but I have found my voice. I won't be silenced anymore.