Gender Critical in Ireland Part 3

[VaddaABeetch]

I’m watching RTE news. They mentioned the Garda representatives organisation are concerned about Gender Identity in the workplace. It’s been brought in without consultation & without training.

the Garda Commissioner has said that Garda may be disciplined for misgendering.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Sorry, that's the Feminism, Sex and Gender category...

Yes, I found that and used the template - I also emailed it to all of my friends -perhaps an idea for us all.

Brilliant article by Eilis O'Hanlon here

https://m.independent.ie/opinion/comment/eilis-ohanlon-puberty-is-not-a-disease-that-needs-to-be-cured/a619101542.html

It’s behind a paywall @WaveyGodshawk. I won’t give money to the them. What is the jist?

The Sunday Independent has actually been very good on reporting on this. Especially, Eilis O'Hanlon and Mark Tighe. They also counterbalance it with articles from true believers such as Maia Dunphy, and by profiling people such as Panti.
I took out a subscription to the Independent because I think the Sunday Independent has been consistently good on this and it is important to support good reporting.

Vadda, cut and paste it into this.

https://archive.ph/

"In 2020, Page, who'd earlier come out as lesbian, announced they were indeed transgender, taking the name Elliot and the pronouns "he/they”.
Page was again telling that story in interviews last week to publicise their $3m (€2.8m) memoir, Pageboy.
It's what Page said in one of those interviews about the experience of puberty which was particularly striking.
"When my body started to change,” the actor said, "clothes sat on me differently, and all of that was just the beginning of really sort of disconnecting from myself and feeling a degree of discomfort that was very erosive.”

She also wrote about the movie
Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret, based in the late 1960s/early 1970s it centres on a 12-year-old girl cant wait for her breasts to develop.

" The film beautifully captures all the awkwardness of puberty, portraying it not only as a normal rite of passage, but also as something to be happily embraced, joyously laughed about. Bodies are ridiculous, but you'll be fine, the film reassuringly says.
"It's like a glimpse into a world that no longer exists — and it's been destroyed by people who think they've overcome all the hang-ups that held back previous generations."

👏 Eilis.

Sorry @VaddaABeetch only seeing this now, thanks @DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry for the archive link.
Like Maeve I took out a sub for the articles from Eilis and Mark Tighe, they've been consistently trying to sound the alarm for some time now.

_So-called progressives have pathologised puberty and adolescence to such an extent it seems to some children going through it that it’s an awful condition that needs to be cured.
Feeling different, and that the world doesn’t understand you is, of course, a universal experience for teenagers.
What’s dangerous about the trans-affirmative ideology pushed by Government is it doesn’t challenge the idea that there’s something wrong with children struggling with gender dysphoria. It endorses it, by telling them they’re right to feel uneasy in their skin, because it’s the bodies that are at fault, and that delaying puberty, and maybe later going on to further medicalisation, is the answer.

Agreeing with a child who’s spent too many hours online that their puberty is a disorder that needs to be “fixed” is not acceptance. It’s cruelty_

I remember utterly, absolutely hating my changing body. I'd get so panicky and feel sick seeing boobs and hips standing out in my clothes, so I'd always wear the baggiest hoodies and trackies i could find to cover up.
And that's without any porn influence, or gender identity theory being so pervasive.
But as she says, puberty is so pathologised now those feelings are seen as indication of gender dysphoria.

The article just really resonated with me I suppose.

It's like a glimpse into a world that no longer exists — and it's been destroyed by people who think they've overcome all the hang-ups that held back previous generations."

This paragraph Maeve highlighted too - I grew up in a very repressed household, how is it in 30 years that instead of girls having now information and openness about what puberty entails and that it's normal and nothing to be ashamed/afraid about; they're running screaming from it. Its very sad really.

Thanks all for the links. Good to see sunlight.

I was subjected today to a gender unicorn talk at work. I could feel steam coming out my ears.

Wtaf is a gender unicorn when it's at home 🤣

I take it was all about T for pride month, @VaddaABeetch , and not so much the LGB? I have spotted some pronouns in email sigs in my work also recently. Thankfully there hasn't been any directive about it so far anyway.

@WaveyGodshawk it was a general ‘diversity’ presentation but focused on the Tz. Nothing about neurodiversity, age, sex, race.

I’ve seen the presentation before & queried the statistics, conflating T with ‘intersex’ and that not every body has a gender. I received an answer along the lines of that’s your opinion. I wouldn’t mind I work for a primarily STEM organisation.

I don’t know what a gender unicorn is! A load of guff is what it is.

Its so disappointing isn't it, its like none of the other protected characteristics exist. Well done for querying even if the response from them was shite! "That's your opinion" Well aren't they totally dismissing your "truth" of not having "a gender" with that. No critical thinking whatsoever. My work is stem too, I was hoping that would be a bit of protection against gender/ pronoun nonsense.

Do you ever feel like the Irish Times columnests are having a competition between themselves to see who can have the dimmest article accepted by the editor?

There was Paul Murphy's interview: I refer to my son as "that" to break the binary. P.S., I am 40

Fintan O'Toole: We used to organise schools by a religious belief in immortal souls. That was silly. Now we must organise by religious belief in gendered souls. I don't have time to explain the difference

Jennifer O'Connell: Of course women should expect death threats if they don't say the right thing

Aoife Moore: Drag isn't being done in front of children so don't protest. But if it was that would be great because dressing up as a sexist parody of women to lip synch to Cher is like Shakespere. If you don't think so, it's because you think that people should be locked up for being different

And they go for it every time. It's like they learned nothing from the AI fake tan.

It's probably why fake tan didn't raise any doubts, they are so used to writing-by-numbers from their usual hacks that they expect it.

I would love to see a letter on the letter page congratulating them on a slightly improved AI article.

😂😂😂

This made me laugh 😂

Dear Sir - The Irish Times was unfortunate enough to receive a lot of unwarranted criticism for the publication of an article generated by AI. It speaks to the courage of the editor that the transition to more modern content production methods has not been abandoned. Friday's article by "Aoife Moore" shows a slight improvement in the algorithm in that the name was fully localised and there was no clearly-not-human byline photo. However, the content of the article, "Doing bingo as a parody of women is totally like Shakespere if you think about it - any other opinion else is like Magdalen Laundries or county homes" had some local colour and references but the programmers still have some logical bridges to cross before the content is fully believable. Fingers crossed for the next attempt!
Is Mise, Woman Reader.

Brava @StephanieSuperpowers 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Buala bos Stephanie
I can't bring myself to read the IT anymore. Raises my blood pressure too much! And I just think if they're so wilfully blind on this issue how could I trust anything in it

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https://twitter.com/PantiBliss/status/1668337703468027905?cxt=HHwWgsDSyaqTkKcuAAAA

Just dropping Panti's tweet here. The replies are excellent. He's claiming the debate in Westminster was about trans people & complaining no trans person allowed speak ! It was about sex not trans. Rory O Neill quickly put in his place with the comments under his incorrect tweet.