Gender Critical in Ireland Part 3

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I’m watching RTE news. They mentioned the Garda representatives organisation are concerned about Gender Identity in the workplace. It’s been brought in without consultation & without training.

the Garda Commissioner has said that Garda may be disciplined for misgendering.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

@Villagetoraiseachild thank you! didn't think of youtube

https://gript.ie/not-inclusive-the-sex-ed-motion-that-into-refused-to-allow-to-be-debated/
The INTO refused to allow discussion by some concerns raised by some teachers about the teaching of gender ideology in primary schools.
I'm not sure how they think shutting down discussion on this is the best way to deal with the issue.
Parents are going to raise concerns, they already are. Are they also going to be told that their concerns are "not inclusive"?

@MaeveofConnaught this is another example of how they are desperately trying to step over the parents in order to indoctrinate the kids..
Why not provide the parents with the material & let it up to the parents to educate their kids. Should be kept out of schools.

I just can't wrap my head around all those teachers going along with this. Surely congress isn't just full of young newly qualified teachers? The whole thing makes me so fearful. WHO is going to speak up?

https://gript.ie/its-a-quasi-religious-cult-kellie-jay-keen-says-trans-activists-do-her-work-better-than-she-does/

Hope all attending Belfast tomorrow have a wonderful time. Attached a link to an interesting article below.

@Bláthannabuí thanks a mil. Leaving now to get to Belfast.

Good luck to all travelling to Belfast today. I hope your voices can be heard.

Wow, Posie looks amazing! She's channelling the Yellow Power Ranger 😀

Good luck today everyone, we are with you in spirit!

Best of luck to everyone travelling- stay safe.

Wow, well done everyone who went to Belfast. That was a triumph!
Brilliant speeches and all perfectly clear and audible.
I hope you had a great day out and wishing you safe journeys home.

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/barbie-kardashian-to-be-moved-from-limerick-prison-over-fears-of-attack-on-staff/a659395218.html

Barbie Kardashian to be moved out of Limerick women's prison. Common sense prevailing finally.

Weird isn't it. I was talking to a woman recently about all this and she asked ' Who is Barbie Kardashian?' And now KJK mentioned her in her remarks in Belfast.

I suppose it is testament to the great job the media have done in ignoring the whole scandal and just shouting Terf! these last few years.

Irish media especially poor. Too close to ppl in Dáil and NGOs I expect. Incestuous.

The mainstream media in Ireland are all partaking in state controlled censorship. RTE being the worst. We're no better than North Korea or the Soviet Union.

Yep, I totally agree @Bláthannabuí

I was at #letwomenspeakbelfast yesterday I wasn't well esp for the 500km round trip but I really felt compelled to go. I don't think the Dublin event can be rescheduled and so it was the only chance.
It was great to speak, even if half of it was to distorted to understand.
I wrote a bit about it on the main thread.

It looked great from the footage. Big turnout. And well policed in fairness.

The Salmon of Knowledge too. How appropriate.

https://gript.ie/public-meeting-on-parents-constitutional-rights-school-curriculum-and-gender-recognition-act/
Public meeting on parents constitutional rights tomorrow... Glad to see this happening, certain sectors want parents completely bypassed

If Helen McEntee was Minister of Justice who put a psychotic male in a women's prison in the UK .....well the media there wouldn't let up til she was gone .

But half our journos , radio and TV presenters seem to be very close to TDs and ministers - if not actually related.

Has anyone else had a chance to read this piece? https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/education/2023/04/24/new-junior-cycle-curriculum-will-oblige-schools-to-teach-about-gender-identity/

The final curriculum specification includes some changes from an earlier draft, which referred to gender identity being experienced “along a spectrum”.

A reference to “cisgender” – which defined the term as “when someone’s gender identity aligns with the sex they were assigned at birth” – has also been omitted from the final document.

I agree that there have to be changes in the curriculum, particularly to reflect that many young teens are seeing hardcore pornography, and need tools to understand it.
Equally, I welcome any improvements in supporting young people who may be questioning their own sexuality - in a world where "gay" is still a pejorative.

However, again, we see transgender issues (which are frequently correlated with neurodiversity, trauma, and family systems issues) being conflated with LGB.

The final document does not seem to be on line yet, the draft is still up on the ncca.ie as is the report on the consultation process with it's dismissal of parental concerns expressed in the survey. For those who didn't fill it out the survey, the questions were laid out in such a way that it was tricky to indicate what areas you were concerned with by answering the questions so you had to use any available comment boxes. When I filled it out you could only see one question page at a time and couldn't go back over answers so couldn't move a previous response to a more relevant comment box if one came up later. As a result I probably filled in similar sounding comments in more than one section probably compounding the ease with which my responses were dismissed as a part of an organised campaign or however it was put in the report. In the report itself they still conflate sex and gender which was something I objected to.

(I objected to several of the definitions in the glossary, not just the cisgender one.)

They spoke about this on drivetime yesterday, v short piece and they had the Irish times education correspondent on. They said that the new curriculum changes will be in place for September and when asked if schools had to stick to it, the answer was there would be very little leeway. This does not tie in with the response I got from one of my TDs when I emailed all of them! I've copied an exerpt below (this response was sent to me in late March). I'm going to respond to her now with a link to above article.

"This process is at a very early stage. We have contacted the National Council for Curriculum and Assessment who are responsible for this area seeking further information.

They have informed us that no decisions about content have been made yet.

They have stated that any decisions about topics in the redeveloped curriculum will be informed by research, best practice and consultation, and will be introduced in an age-appropriate, sensitive and incremental manner.

We understand a draft Wellbeing specification will be available for public consultation in 2024 and at that point, you as parents and various other stakeholders will have a chance to have your say and make a submission, well before any new curriculum specifications are finalised."

ohnoitsagruffalo your TD appears to be talking about the primary school curriculum. The article above is about the junior cycle curriculum, the public consultation for which was sometime last year. I had thought the senior cycle consultation was this year but just had a look and it took place in October last year. If you go to the ncca site you can see what consultations are open. The primary curriculum is being completely restructured so I think sphe/rse may now come under wellbeing , possibly with some aspects under social & environmental.

“This is so nobody feels that they have no place to go to the toilet,” said Aisa Burgwal of EPATH.
^^
Except women?

There's a new season of Paddy O'Gorman podcasts - first episode includes several reports of women in hostels being beaten by transwomen.

Fair play to him, he sounds as distressed and angry as I feel - and he very rarely comments on anything he records.

http://paddyspodcast.ie/episodes-3/

https://twitter.com/paddyjogorman/status/1650456453860278272

Dresses like a woman, punches like a man.

@Believerinbiology thank you, you are right! I will have a look at the ncca site. @DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry is that paddy o German that does be on rte radio? Must have a listen to the podcast