Gender Critical in Ireland Part 3

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I’m watching RTE news. They mentioned the Garda representatives organisation are concerned about Gender Identity in the workplace. It’s been brought in without consultation & without training.

the Garda Commissioner has said that Garda may be disciplined for misgendering.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

This is just robot speak at this stage!!

I see plenty of pushback, including your questions, which of course she will never respond to. The ratio, 119 likes vs. 1.4k replies, tells a story.

"Trans rights" are extra demands at the expense of women.

I just had a read through the X thread and couldn't see one TRA post at all! Lots of people (and seems to be an equal mix of men & women) pointing out that everyone has human rights and what more do they want?! plus all the other points that we regularly make on this thread. Nothing nasty either, although I'm sure the TRAs would find fault in every one of them. Basically it looks like she's getting her arse handed to her on a plate. Good enough for her! They didn't listen before the recent referendum, I wonder will she listen to the public now?

The Indo has published a fair amount of GC stuff over the last few years, they were the ones to publish the whistleblowing by Dr. Donal O'Shea IIRC

I was fully expecting the TRA's to blacklist them for all the GC articles they've published in the last year or two but I think a load of them cut off their nose to spite their face with their Irish Times boycott

I think after the referendum the mainstream media will have to publish what the majortity want or they'll go broke.. Many people are turning to alternative news sources also to read what shall not be published in the ms media so we may get some more centered news reports going forward.

I was watching primetime last week and in an interview with Darragh O'Brien I was surprised when the interviewer mentioned The Ditch several times by name in his questions, even a year ago when they were breaking news about the TD's who had lied on their planning applications, the rest of the media seemed to be going out of their way to not name them even though they were the ones who broke the story.

Will be interesting to see if the same happens for Gript too eventually

I had great hopes for the Social Democrats. Sigh.

That's exactly it, these alternative news sources are entering the everyday fold.. The mainstream publications will have little choice in future only to report on the facts not opinion.. They will have to become more GC as the nation is well & truely starting to wake up..
The vast majority of the population know that a man cannot possibly be a woman ever & will not trust a publication trying to claim otherwise..
Common sense & critical thinking is starting to sweep Ireland methinks!

I'm not as optimistic as you @VoteNONO
Look how captured key organisations and politicians are. There's a lot of money behind this movement. And generally people want to be seen as kind and inclusive. I can see how people would believe what they're told, especially if it's well-known important people telling them! I'm still not sure there's enough push back in the media to swell the movement yet.

That's true and I guess the TRAs cant blacklist everyone. The problem for them now is that their only strategy was to shut down any debate and bully dissenters to the ideology. People have started to realise though that the emporor has no clothes..

I'm optimistic as I feel the tide has turned especially since the referendum. There seems to be a silent majority out there who won't discuss as such but will use their vote when it counts..

I think the majority of people felt hopelessly that the family referendum would be passed but it was strongly defeated.. We need a more centered right leaning government to bring back common sense.
The more these politicians in the main parties are trying to push trans rights down women's throats the more they are alienating themselves from the normal, critical thinking voter which is a very large percentage of the electorate judging by the referendum results..

There is a very interesting article in Gript about the Cass report. I’ll link it in my next post - just off to get the link.

I don't even want a right leaning party. I'm still on the left - apart from the misogyny and contempt for safeguarding of children. I don't want to be part of this men's sexual rights revolution but I do want equality for all, I do want a decent safety net for all our citizens, I want a good education and health care for everyone regardless of their background or beliefs, I want a vibrant cultural and social life for everyone. Basically, I want everyone to have access to what they need to live in peace, personal enrichment, social enjoyment and basically have a full life. But I don't think we need to pretend that people can change sex and women should submit to any man's whims to achieve it. And I will not vote for a person or party who promotes that.

https://gript.ie/landmark-review-to-say-young-people-presenting-as-trans-may-have-mental-health-problems/

I know some people on here dislike Gript, but I read all sources and they are excellent on the GC stuff.

On the Independent going more GC, there used to be a policy in the Independent group, of following the successful aspects of the Daily Mail (the UK version), so perhaps that element of management have analyzed the success of their GC stance.

That's exactly where I am too. I think it's easier for someone who is more right leaning to find a political party that suits as more right wing parties are less likely to be captured by the gender woo.

Isn’t it amazing that facts as obvious as water is wet are now headline news.

But you won't get that unfortunately with a left leaning party or independent.. They have all been captured & will never be able to answer "What is a woman"? correctly.

To protect women's rights we need a GC government who the TRAs despise.

I’m not sure I’m right wing - I believe in state education, healthcare, state ownership of all infrastructure- I think the selling off of Telecom Eireann was a travesty. I also believe in state housing - I think we need way more of it and better quality. I do not believe in selling off council housing to the people renting it - it was a Thatcherite mistake that we blindly copied.

However, I have never trusted left wing parties and definitely not the Trade Union movement which is historically misogynistic and has let women down since its inception.

I suppose I am more conservative when it comes to social issues - surrogacy; prostitution; my belief in marriage; gender critical; my support for motherhood;
but all of my beliefs stem from my overarching belief in the equality of all people, male and female; of all ethnicities. That is my founding principle, although I would say equal but different. I want support and protection for the importance of motherhood - much of the feminist movement has not centered this and has therefore lost me.

So I have no one to vote for either - I’m not averse to Aontú but I’m not on board with the abortion or nationalist issues - it’s not that I’m not a nationalist, it’s just not my priority.

No, I won't, which saddens me deeply. I don't believe what I need is a right wing party though, what I need is a left wing party that respects women and protects children. The fact that that appears to be an impossible aspiration is one of the most depressing realisations of my adult life.

@Annasgirl as regards to Aontú & the abortion referendum, that has passed & won't be reversed. So I think their policies going forward are so important. Emer Tóibín (Peadar's sister) is very openly GC on X which is just great to see! I can't see Aontú being captured anytime soon or the GC independents..

Their position on abortion is indicative of a socially conservative stance generally though.

I am socially liberal and believe that my GC stance and my position on surrogacy and prostitution are aligned with a socially liberal view. I think surrogacy is wrong as it exploits vulnerable women and commodifies babies. I disagree with legalised prostitution as again, it exploits vulnerable women and men. However, I think it is the clients who should be prosecuted, rather than the prostitutes.

I'm also more on the left politically in terms of social protections and state provisions in housing, health, education etc.

The Catholic Church has issued a report entitled Dignitas Infinita which basically condemns the excesses of gender ideology. There is a thread on Feminism Women Rights which I lack the wit to link to.

It is beautifully written. Of course anything the Church says must be wrong, per se , in some quarters. Which is , partly , why we're in this mess to begin with. Anyway, as an agnostic I think this will be helpful. It is worth reading.

Here you go @Annasgirl

Yeah, I read it. It's also very strongly against surrogacy. I think the existence of an organisation which doesn't need to equivocate when putting opinions out is probably a good thing. There's nothing mealy mouthed about it.