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Gender Critical in Ireland Part 3

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VaddaABeetch · 03/04/2023 13:07

I’m watching RTE news. They mentioned the Garda representatives organisation are concerned about Gender Identity in the workplace. It’s been brought in without consultation & without training.

the Garda Commissioner has said that Garda may be disciplined for misgendering.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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StephanieSuperpowers · 16/11/2023 20:34

Good for you. Hope its a massive success and very enjoyable and you meet lots of like minded people to connect with.

Abhannmor · 16/11/2023 21:06

ohnoitsagruffalo · 16/11/2023 18:27

Thanks both, I feel a bit better now. Husband doesn't want me to go but I've bought a ticket so let's see 🤪

Write a report for Craicnet too !

ohnoitsagruffalo · 16/11/2023 21:10

I'll try!

Abhannmor · 23/11/2023 13:00

Just saw a pile of Glinners book , Tough Crowd in Easons , Killarney. This is a good sign. People in the UK having difficulty getting it in eg Waterstones. Graham says only 5% of sales are from shops.

Even with the growth of online shopping that looks suspiciously like sabotage!

ohnoitsagruffalo · 23/11/2023 20:53

We got a copy today in a bookshop in kilkenny, it was in the humour section, not piles of it but not hidden in the back either.

3timeslucky · 25/11/2023 12:12

That's really good. Hope he sells looooaaaads of copies over Christmas

MarieDeGournay · 01/12/2023 10:27

There's a discussion over on the Feminism:sex and gender board about Tesco ireland's Panti Bliss Xmas TikTok ad.. or Santi Bliss as he... sorry, even typing those words feels off! well anyway, it's over there if anyone feels like joining in the discussion, and complaining to Tesco, maybe spending your airgead na nollag áit éigin eile.

Dishwasherdisaster · 01/12/2023 11:17

Just saw the ad online and I think it's very inappropriate and disrespectful. Hate the name. I feel we're back in the days of Carry On films...but no doubt my opinion will be taken as anti-trans or something. It's not. This just seems too close to fetish for a Christmas ad...I don't mind the drag really, but the name, the nipples on display through the costume, the innuendo. Yuk.

I think I'll be going to Dunnes this Christmas and will be ringing Tesco to complain.

MarieDeGournay · 01/12/2023 12:06

You shouldn't be called anti-trans for objecting to drag - you probably will be, but you shouldn't be. Drag, trans and gay are different things. PB, like Lily Savage RIP, is a gay man who does a drag act. It seems to be a recent thing for drag queens to only appear in their drag persona and insist on being called she etc. all the time.
Objecting to drag as being misogynistic is described as (a) transphobic or (b) homophobic or indeed both, neither is justifiable in fact, but hey, who cares, any way to attack women is justified😑
(Sorry, that's a very clunky sentence, hopefully you get my drift!)

Abhannmor · 01/12/2023 12:21

He seems to radiate aggression and hostility. Makes me nostalgic for Shirley Temple Bar tbh!

Dunnes Stores getting another customer here too. No hardship though in my case. I actually like shopping there and prefer their stuff.

LifeInAHamsterWheel · 01/12/2023 14:38

I'm glad it's not just me that has a problem with him, and I don't consider myself to have any phobias I just hate drag and don't find it appropriate content for family advertising at all!

StephanieSuperpowers · 01/12/2023 16:06

I watched the ad and when he gives the coquettish look to camera I was glad I hadn't had my lunch yet.

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 01/12/2023 16:14

Interesting though that he puts the boot into gays as well as women. He seems to resent anyone not prepared to take orders from him (and to pay for the privilege).

honeyrider · 02/12/2023 01:15

Not nice calling other gay people traitors.

Abhannmor · 02/12/2023 10:36

Yes Rory is the gatekeeper of gayness now is he?

'You're not the King of the Gays' - John Boyne to Owen Jones. Seems applicable

MarieDeGournay · 06/12/2023 09:12

Speaking about the referendums on the family/women's role in the home articles in the Constitution, the Taoiseach said:
All citizens are equal before the law, regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation, social class or anything else and we believe that by elevating any particular category, for example, that of sex-based discrimination, it could unwittingly downgrade others, such as those relating to disability, race or ethnicity for example,” (my underlining)
Hello? Elevating 'sex-based discrimination'? Sex-based discrimination was written out of Irish legislation when the word 'sex', which was clearly defined, was replaced by 'gender', which they never got around to defining, but is a category that includes anyone who self-identifies as anything.
Irish legislation has completely abandoned women's sex-based rights, it doesn't even have the exceptions that UK legislation has, so how could they be elevated above others? A woman's place is in the wrong, eh?😑

Dishwasherdisaster · 06/12/2023 09:34

That's it, there is no sex-based discrimination any more, only gender-based.
Nobody wants to elevate sex-based discrimination above disability discrimination etc. We just want sex-based rights to be on a par with the other rights. As we stand, sex-based rights have been abolished without consultation in this country.
Or did I somehow miss the referendum for that Leo?!

MarieDeGournay · 06/12/2023 16:08

You make a good point about the lack of a referendum on removing sex-based rights, Dishwasherdisaster.
Could it be open to legal/constitutional challenge that existing, clearly understood terms like 'man' and 'woman' were just binned in favour of an undefined 'gender', thereby changing the meaning of existing legislation? I'm not a constitutional lawyer, or any kind of lawyer at all in fact😏, but I've been reading up about language and the law (I know, I know, I'm a nerd!) including Law Commission reports which call for laws becoming MORE comprehensible, and expressed in clear everyday language as far as possible.
So overwriting existing sex equality laws with highly the highly debatable, undefined term 'gender' seems constitutionally and legally.... can't think of a better word than dodgy. There's undoubtedly a proper legal word- contentious,maybe?

3timeslucky · 06/12/2023 16:26

You'd think if either the government or those writing laws for them cared about language and clarity that they might have given just a teeny weeny bit of thought to the use of the terms sex and gender in the GRA legislation. But hey ho, why would the great and the good be concerned with trivia like clarity in law?

Greyheart1 · 12/12/2023 12:09

Can anyone interested take the time to sign & share please?

Fubbs · 12/12/2023 15:38

Signed this morning!

Greyheart1 · 12/12/2023 15:49

@Fubbs great stuff!

Abhannmor · 12/12/2023 15:59

Signed and shared. Is nowhere safe from this insanity....

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