Gender Critical in Ireland Part 3

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I’m watching RTE news. They mentioned the Garda representatives organisation are concerned about Gender Identity in the workplace. It’s been brought in without consultation & without training.

the Garda Commissioner has said that Garda may be disciplined for misgendering.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I want someone with XY chromosomes to be proposed as a woman electoral candidate to fulfil their party's quota.

Thank you,

I will sow some seeds when I am paid next week

Dia duit!
There's a newly drafted bill from The Countess.ie!
There's a thread on it already on the Feminist Sex and Gender forum on Mumsnet.
The title is about keeping men out of women's jails in Ireland.
Very powerfully worded.

Yeah I saw the extract on the Feminism Women's Rights thread earlier.

The Countess not pulling any punches! When this bill comes to Dáil Éireann I will defo be onto my TD about it.

Does anybody have experience of the BeLonGTo LGBTQ+ Quality Mark in schools? Received a survey (I'm sure many have this week) and was looking for more info before I respond. Unsurprisingly BeLonGTo website is vague re what it entails and the "training and support" that will be implemented. I noticed that they have changed their remit from young people age 14+ to children and young people age 10+ on their site...don't know when this change occurred.

Interesting to note the change in target audience ... catch them young, much easier to indoctrinate. Fits with their move to TikTok (and they're not the only ones). Very keen to hang out where the kids are. Makes you wonder why.

Very interesting that people can withdraw their kids from the scheduled indoctrination but there's no escape for the unscheduled variety.

Yes, I was wondering about it too.
Asked DC about it and they said whole school is draped in posters, flags etc. this week for inclusivity.
Many of the questions just seem to ask in various different ways how supportive the school is to LGBTQ+ and I really don't know the answers to most of them.

CiarannotCiaran yes the survey itself is ridiculous as it's mostly just what are you aware of etc but it worries me what else other than sending out the survey is involved in attaining the quality mark. BeLongTo are one of the organisations pushing for children under 16 to be allowed to legally transition (change birth cert, passport, medication/surgery, access opposite sex spaces) as well as saying that biological males should be allowed to compete against biological females in sport.

Yes, it's all very worrying. I'm actually glad mine are in single sex schools so no issues around toilets or sports in school. Or trips away for that matter. At least for the moment!
I thought a mixed sex school might be a more 'natural' environment, but I'm glad of the choices we made now even though we actually chose based on academic reasons.

Some of the threads here lately have reminded me of how free we were as young girls in a convent school in the 70s to be stroppy, and outspoken, and direct, unpoliced by anyone except our unfortunate teachers. Most of us took the importance of feminism for granted - there was a 'respectable' minority who repeated nonsense they'd heard at home about why the marriage bar and unequal pay were justified because the poor men, but they were regarded as a bit weird.

We were a cross section some leaders, some quiet and self effacing, some people who made life better just by being there, some rebels, some self-dramatising egoists (never very popular). But all able to be ourselves, with no male gaze in the classroom, no one to tell us to be 'feminine'.

Well, except for that time the career teacher got Catherine Scully, later Nevin, in to teach us some presentation skills. We were deeply suspicious of her and her approach to life, correctly as it turned out.

Honestly I think that is a reflection of an experience in an era, not in a type of school. Same timeframe I was in a mixed sex comprehensive (in Ireland) and there was no-one telling me how to be, the idea of male gaze wasn't even a concept (and the concept would have been derided) and my god but we were ourselves! What there was not was "a respectable minority" trying to defend the marriage bar or unequal pay. These things weren't true because it was a mixed sex school but were reflective of the parents who chose to send their kids to a mixed sex comprehensive when that was not common and also reflective of the values of the school and of the teachers who chose to teach there.

The 70s, the 80s, these were decades where we were all free of the impact of the wide-scale prevalence and exposure to hard core violent porn. I hear politicians bleating on about getting rid of single sex schools as that will somehow stop men murdering women. All it is is political point-scoring tied into the eradication of RC church influence in education. Taking on the challenges of access to porn and the normalisation of violent porn is much more difficult and politicians seem to be increasingly loathe to engage with the difficult topics of the day.

Anyone catch Graham Linehan on RTE today? He really kept his head despite the asinine line of questioning.

His book is a cracking read.

The This Week interview was poor overall, that style of overly aggressive questioning by the interviewer rarely allows a guest give a coherent presentation of issues or their opinions. Segment link, MP3 download link. No mention of males still being held in women's prisons in Ireland, or the continuing referral of Irish children and young people by the HSE to the Tavistock clinic even after it was found unsafe.

Stephen Donnelly, the Minister for Health, was briefly asked about the influence of "transgender" activist lobby groups on policy at the end of the following segment on the same programme, starting at around 8:50 here. He bleated about the "far right" while admitting that such groups are being given a role on policy here, despite the clear warnings from clinical experts.

It's very funny and a great insight into the writing of Fr Ted , Black Books and The IT Crowd. Also a trip down memory lane for people like me who devoured Hot Press in the 80s and 90s.

Never knew he and Arthur Mathews were in The Joshua Trio! Then the sad story of his cancer and cancellation. I read it in two sittings which is amazing for me , no focus lately. I'm so glad it's selling well too.

Imagine calling yourself a journalist and being responsible for an interview where you literally only parrot activist organisations and betray not even a cursory interest in anything else.

British journalist Joseophine Bartosch has published a piece about lobby group BelongTo in The Critic: Ireland's gender Jesuits.

The Jesuits! Or maybe Redemptorist - remember the missions , those passionate, sometimes slightly crazed preachers who would go from town to town?

I used to think of Belong To et al as the latter day Legion of Mary. But recently read the biography of their founder. They actually did practical stuff like setting up a women only house for prostitutes. Run by older women , so the girls had help with childcare if needed. Although they were obsessed with the Rosary. So that rules them out as BelongTo don't seem to serve any purpose.

Jill Nesbitt of Women's Space Ireland has a good piece in The Critic about the Irish establishment's assault on truth and reality, also known as "misinformation," here:

Gender Misinformation

"Ireland’s torturous, ideological administration is where truth goes to die, and vulnerable women are paying the price"

The Countess advocacy group are holding an information evening in Carlow tomorrow, Friday the 17th of November. Details here:

https://mailchi.mp/thecountess/the-countess-information-evening

Just saw that! Is anyone going? I've never been to anything like this in person and am a bit nervous, especially after seeing the threats of picketing etc!

I've been to other events over the past year and there were no problems. This is not near enough for me to go or I would.

Same @3timeslucky .

Thanks both, I feel a bit better now. Husband doesn't want me to go but I've bought a ticket so let's see 🤪