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Refugees

603 replies

InayaWoo · 04/02/2024 06:20

Am I wrong to feel the people of this country are using the "Cost of Living" narrative to justify not helping migrants and refugees who seek refuge for themselves? Neglecting our British values, passing the buck to Rwanda and European countries. The attitude towards those fleeing war zones and risking everything to come to this country on harsh waters is outrageous!

I was in the corner shop today and over heard a couple of women making digs about foreigners. To make unjustified claims such as "it makes us unsafe", "we don't have jobs" or my personal favourite - "they don't integrate into society." What on earth has happened to our British values? To make others feel welcome and to help others in need of help!

Every human has a right to safety, affordable housing, food, water, education and a healthcare system. Those are all things our wonderful country can provide and quite frankly has a moral obligation to provide for those coming from other parts of the world that aren't as fortunate as us.

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Spectre8 · 04/02/2024 12:21

hattie43 · 04/02/2024 11:58

Tell that now to the teachers in hiding . The minority can inflict terrible damage and the majority are deafening in their silence about it .

And I agree with you, I am not happy that happens. It's not what our faith is about. Some people have taken it to the extreme and I am also concerned about that and that version radicalising my own children who may hear it from other Muslim children in school or mosques.

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 04/02/2024 12:27

The sooner some sort of system is brought in the better clearly, if you are here with a valid reason and able to work filling employment gaps great. If not then sent straight back. How does Australia and other countries where you can’t just show up manage?

hattie43 · 04/02/2024 12:29

@Spectre8

How will it change though if Muslims don't call it out . Peaceful Muslims need to be much more vocal about extreme behaviour and that for one thing would stop British people thinking all Muslims are complicit.

Biscuits0 · 04/02/2024 12:32

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 04/02/2024 12:27

The sooner some sort of system is brought in the better clearly, if you are here with a valid reason and able to work filling employment gaps great. If not then sent straight back. How does Australia and other countries where you can’t just show up manage?

It’s more of a matter with birth rates. Things are drastically changing where I am.

Spectre8 · 04/02/2024 12:32

hattie43 · 04/02/2024 12:29

@Spectre8

How will it change though if Muslims don't call it out . Peaceful Muslims need to be much more vocal about extreme behaviour and that for one thing would stop British people thinking all Muslims are complicit.

It's a struggle I do my bit when I speak out I get drowned out but the extremists. It's not easy.

I think we have become tok tolerant something that like needs to be stopped straight away I don't know what the government should do to help make it known these actions are not tolerated.

Grannysmithsfrisbee · 04/02/2024 12:36

hattie43 · 04/02/2024 12:29

@Spectre8

How will it change though if Muslims don't call it out . Peaceful Muslims need to be much more vocal about extreme behaviour and that for one thing would stop British people thinking all Muslims are complicit.

The peaceful majority are irrelevant

Brigitte Gabriel gives FANTASTIC answer to Muslim woman claiming all Muslims are portrayed badly » T

Finally! For years all we hear is that Islam has been 'hijacked' and that most Muslims are peaceful people:And that matters to the 270 million people who hav...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

hattie43 · 04/02/2024 12:36

@ but if you're drowned out by extremists it shows how many there are and that's our concern .

AriesJam · 04/02/2024 12:38

hattie43 · 04/02/2024 12:36

@ but if you're drowned out by extremists it shows how many there are and that's our concern .

Women have hard roads ahead that’s for sure!

Spectre8 · 04/02/2024 12:54

hattie43 · 04/02/2024 12:36

@ but if you're drowned out by extremists it shows how many there are and that's our concern .

I think it's more like bullying right people don't speak out cos of fear and repercussions best to stay silent. It can still be small number but it's done through fear and easier for others to just go along and stay silent

Bululu · 04/02/2024 13:19

The problem is that this is the only country I know of that there is so much pearl clutching and it is becoming like a self hate nation. Bully with racist and bigotry name calling. Bloody hell that is rich to say to us when their religion and culture is so backwards. We have had much better immigration in the past. One that did not create problems with their religion extremists and that really propped up the economy. I look forward to be called a racist in person. Because that would have real consequences in terms of the law. They as far as I am concerned would not get away with it any longer.

Bululu · 04/02/2024 14:09

I am frankly shocked and concerned to see 🙁

https://news.sky.com/story/acid-attacks-increase-by-69-in-a-year-in-england-and-wales-charity-warns-129875

Fairness4 · 04/02/2024 14:37

Bululu · 04/02/2024 13:19

The problem is that this is the only country I know of that there is so much pearl clutching and it is becoming like a self hate nation. Bully with racist and bigotry name calling. Bloody hell that is rich to say to us when their religion and culture is so backwards. We have had much better immigration in the past. One that did not create problems with their religion extremists and that really propped up the economy. I look forward to be called a racist in person. Because that would have real consequences in terms of the law. They as far as I am concerned would not get away with it any longer.

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I would highly doubt the law would side with you. As wrong as that is!

Fairness4 · 04/02/2024 14:38

Biscuits0 · 04/02/2024 12:32

It’s more of a matter with birth rates. Things are drastically changing where I am.

Birth rates?🤔

Fairness4 · 04/02/2024 14:53

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 04/02/2024 12:27

The sooner some sort of system is brought in the better clearly, if you are here with a valid reason and able to work filling employment gaps great. If not then sent straight back. How does Australia and other countries where you can’t just show up manage?

That won’t work here. Australia have points based immigration system and a much tighter legal system.

Bululu · 04/02/2024 14:56

@Fairness4 It is a very serious accusation to be throw away casually. The ramifications and consequences they may have on a citizen are serious However, your doubts seem to proof how bad it has become. I encourage people to voice their concerns. We should not feel defeated for wanting the best for our community and country. It is fair.

WildB · 04/02/2024 15:02

Bululu · 04/02/2024 14:56

@Fairness4 It is a very serious accusation to be throw away casually. The ramifications and consequences they may have on a citizen are serious However, your doubts seem to proof how bad it has become. I encourage people to voice their concerns. We should not feel defeated for wanting the best for our community and country. It is fair.

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Can’t say I don’t disagree with Fairness4. It’s hard not feel defeated, the rights we hold are fast disappearing. As she said previously. They have 10 times the births.

Grilledsquid · 04/02/2024 15:04

InayaWoo · 04/02/2024 10:27

Is not a dictatorship if many vote for this! Many immigrants here would vote for that because they know how hard it can be! I don’t support dictatorships.

We absolutely fucking wouldn't vote for that

Fairness4 · 04/02/2024 15:04

WildB · 04/02/2024 15:02

Can’t say I don’t disagree with Fairness4. It’s hard not feel defeated, the rights we hold are fast disappearing. As she said previously. They have 10 times the births.

It would just fall under freedom of speech or freedom of expression.

Fairness4 · 04/02/2024 15:05

Grilledsquid · 04/02/2024 15:04

We absolutely fucking wouldn't vote for that

The immigrants coming would and they are, unfortunately. That’s what she’s been getting at all thread.

Fairness4 · 04/02/2024 15:13

Fairness4 · 04/02/2024 15:05

The immigrants coming would and they are, unfortunately. That’s what she’s been getting at all thread.

It’s gone to the dogs, gave up a long time ago with it.

WildB · 04/02/2024 15:17

Fairness4 · 04/02/2024 15:13

It’s gone to the dogs, gave up a long time ago with it.

Fantastic attitude to have for the future generations.

Grilledsquid · 04/02/2024 15:18

Fairness4 · 04/02/2024 15:05

The immigrants coming would and they are, unfortunately. That’s what she’s been getting at all thread.

Actually yeah. Many immigrants who can vote here (commonwealth) were Brexit voters to swing where immigrants are allowed to come in from.

Fairness4 · 04/02/2024 15:19

Grilledsquid · 04/02/2024 15:18

Actually yeah. Many immigrants who can vote here (commonwealth) were Brexit voters to swing where immigrants are allowed to come in from.

Immigrants are coming from all over. Mainly the Middle East!