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Frulgaleers - Jumping into June

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Laska5772 · 30/05/2018 22:06

We filled up the last thread before we did a new one!
Hope you find this !

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Girliefriendlikesflowers · 31/05/2018 22:30

unescorted has he got an actual diagnosis? You probably need to sit down and talk to him (give examples) of where his behaviour is causing difficulties.

Cagliostro · 31/05/2018 22:40

Ooh thanks audit that could be worth a try! Yes it’s seamless things she favours. We didn’t get to primark anyway as it chucked it down after lunch so we went straight home.

Unescorted not offended at all. I will have a think. I didn’t know I was autistic until a good while after I started my job and several things were difficult. About to go to bed, but I’ll think on it (as I don’t work there now it’s not so fresh in my mind).

Oh fuck that for a game of soldiers em if you don’t want her staying over then she doesn’t get to! She has already broken your trust massively by snooping, that’s proven even to DH, why should she get another chance? You would never enjoy it knowing that was going to happen.

Lunch was nice, Cagletini got fussed over and she tried a burrito 😂 it’s her last night in the Moses basket, assuming the cotbed is actually delivered tomorrow that is. 🙄 Going to see the greatest showman, woohoo! Finally.

QuiteCleanBandit · 31/05/2018 22:43

Hello just catching up Smile

Ugh mouth ulcers -one of my specialist subjectsHmm
Corsadyl gel is for mouth ulcers -very good for the nasty recurring ones.
The wash just hurts like fuck

If they are traumatic then Alaclair is very good -from Boots.It creates a protective layer and is very soothing .
Spends £89 Sainsbury 60 Nectar points as I had a voucher for Dreamies.
Method spray was £2 so stocked up (I never buy when £3)
£15.03 petrol.

Unescorted · 31/05/2018 22:45

I don't know. If he does then it hasn't been shared. We (me and other people in the office ,- not just our organisation) have several examples where his behaviour would be considered inappropriate for the office. Shouting at me on several occasions, reciting obscure poetry to one of our senior managers, over explaining to someone who is not in our organisation. If he has a diagnosis then it would be better to manage because we can give him a chance to settle in and hopefully work with him to get to a point where it doesn't cause an issue. Unfortunately his line manager is in another office so we have to make a decision to raise it with his LM and all the consequences of that..... The shouting alone is a disciplinary action. If he needs more support we would prefer that as a way forward - he and his LM need never know. We have his interests at heart. I just don't know how to make it work for everyone.

ChristmasSeacow · 31/05/2018 22:45

Unescorted not offended (as an ASD parent) but it’s hard to say really as people with ASD are all different! What makes you think he’s autistic - does he think he is?

One thing that is a common feature is having difficulty reading social cues and understanding what the ‘correct’ response is. Tbh in my own dealings with ASD adults (and I know a few) I just try to be quite direct - not rude or abrupt at all, but I try not to rely on nuance as I normally (unconsciously) would. Just not to leave too much room for misinterpretation about what’s expected. And not be too sensitive myself! I think there are adults on this thread who can probably offer a better perspective though. And thank you for wanting to support this chap - I hope that people will try to understand and help my DS in employment one day Flowers

On a shallow note, I deferred the shoe decision by bringing both pairs with me. I think flats is probably the way forward though, sigh. The heels aren’t super high but I am a bit out of practice too, since being off work. If it’s raining I won’t be wearing either as they are suede and too nice to spoil. If I am feeling reckless I’ll keep both - very extravagant but PILs gave me a very generous cheque for my birthday which would more than cover it as I got both pairs on sale. I think shoes that make me feel lovely for funerals is a good use of treat money! DH needs to take me out somewhere naice to get more wear out of them.

Em I probably wouldn’t go to the restaurant. To spend that kind of money and savour the experience I’d want my mind at ease and no ulcers! But if you could bear it in your situation I’d go out with DH somewhere more casual and let MIL babysit for a short evening and not drink so she can kindly be driven home Wink. So disruptive for her to pack up her stuff etc.

Glad the parcel arrived Meadow, and that your alias hasn’t confused your building’s post person Wink. And very glad you're not worried any more about immediate rent problems.

I still miss @NeedAStrongOne too. Really hope she and her DH are okay.

Snuggly I don’t think you should feel guilty about not doing lots of whizzy things over half term. I hardly went anywhere as a child as dparents had no money and it also wasn’t such a normal expectation. And they also had the exact same logistical challenges as you! Days out were few and far between and I remember them still but also the ‘messing around’ time at home. I had a lovely childhood and got so much out of having siblings, and still do...

Had the best fish and chips ever tonight, about £7, and am now in bed in my hotel watching Netflix. It’s going to be an emotionally draining day tomorrow.

Unescorted · 31/05/2018 22:48

I don't even know if he is autistic and I am just projecting a stereotype ... He could just have no office skills.

QuiteCleanBandit · 31/05/2018 22:52

Unescorted
This sort of behaviour(whatever the cause) should be dealt with by his LM.
If he needs support and adjustments to be made there are processes that should be followed,documentation and possibly referrals for support and he is entitled to this.

ChristmasSeacow · 31/05/2018 23:05

Yes, the behaviour sounds quite difficult, not something that can be managed by goodwill alone.

MeadowHay · 31/05/2018 23:11

I think I probably agree with Bandit tbh unescorted - because I'm not sure how you and other colleagues can really help...if he hasn't declared a diagnosis to any of you it's not like you can sit him down and discuss support measures...unless you feel it would be appropriate to sit him down and discuss how some of his behaviour has been inappropriate, with specific examples, and say to him that you want to help ease his transition into this workplace and discuss whether he feels he needs any more support/training and if so what you could do to support that. Has anyone actually told him that those behaviours were inappropriate? Because if not he may not know. I agree with Seacow that it's better to be direct - calm and sympathetic re: support/training etc but direct nonetheless. Sometimes I don't know what I've done or said is inappropriate or whatever and whilst it can be embarrassing or upsetting to be told so it's necessary sometimes otherwise I wouldn't know how to best fix the situation or how to react in future etc. (I am on the autistic spectrum.) If the job was with customers or clients you could maybe have a base script if they are going to be having the same kinds of conversations over and over again but doesn't sound like it's anything like that? I have one at work in my job that was provided to all us newbies as standard which was very helpful for me but my job is like sort of customer-facing just over the phone so it was easy to do that.

Unescorted · 31/05/2018 23:12

Thanks my lovelies. I will have a talk with some people at work in a hypothetical way too. We have mentors who we can ping ideas off but mine is as clueless as I am on this. I am not sure his line manager will be on his side.

Ideally I would ask him but given that offering to show how to use the calendar system provoked the first set of the verbals I am not sure I am brave enough.

Unescorted · 31/05/2018 23:14

sea I will be thinking of you. Xx

CremeEggThief · 31/05/2018 23:34

Hope tomorrow goes as well as it can, Seacow. A celebration of a life.

Cagliostro · 31/05/2018 23:52

Much love seacow xxx

The baby woke up. Le sigh.

Further to my exciting use of the word forthwith, I also used "henceforth" earlier. #fancypants

ememem84 · 01/06/2018 05:05

Dh and I had a chat which resulted in me telling him I absolutely under no circumstances want mil looking after ds alone or staying over. I’ve said I’m cancelling dinner. She’s welcome round here for dinner. But I’m not going out. And I’ll drop her back after dinner. It’s that or nothing.

Dh suggested I’m not considering his feelings. And it’s his mum. Etc etc. I’ve had to explain exactly why I’m not happy. Again. And although yes she is good with ds and he does seem to like her being around it’s still no.

Anyway. In a wierd twist ds seems to have caught what I think might be croup (according to dr Google). He’s coughing like a seal. It came on last night. He woke up at 1. I was sleeping in his room at that point as Dh had upset me and ds was coughing in his sleep a bit anyway. And he’s woken up again now. So I’ve asked Dh to take him to the dr this morning. One of us (me) will sleep in with ds until he’s better. So that solves the mil issue I think. I’m not leaving ill baby alone with anyone (be it mil my parents etc) at night time.

Wolfcub · 01/06/2018 07:00

Sea I am thinking of you and your family today and sending you love
Em poor ds, I hope it isn’t croup, I wouldn’t leave a poorly baby either. Hope he feels better soon.
Unescorted I’m with Quite on this. He hasn’t disclosed so you don’t know there’s an underlying medical condition and therefore can’t makr reasonable adjustments as much as you want to help you could land yourself in very hot water by addressing this with him. Whilst the thought of the disciplinary process is unsavoury if he does have a medical issue it’s likely to come out in mitigation and in the meantime his behaviour is not office appropriate. It’s not that I don’t think you are right to want to help him, you absolutely are, but policies and procedures don’t allow you to without disclosure.

Cagliostro · 01/06/2018 07:12

OMG. OMG. OMG. So DH checked the housing register after midnight when bidding closed.

We finished second. On TWO houses. So if it's the same family ahead of us on both... we should get offered one.

OMG.

Thinking of you today seacow Thanks

Eeek em sorry things got so tense but I am certain you've done the right thing. Hope DS is OK.

Laska5772 · 01/06/2018 07:25

unescorted its great that you are being concerned and supportive. Most workplaces he would be out pretty fast. I have a good manager now but have had bullying ones before. One of then i ended up shouing at me ( and me back i admit) I walked from that job as no one would help. But inthe end she got sacked after moving onto anothe victim . ( not the same situation i know .
em did you tell him shed been snooping? I would have confronted her over the payrise papers.
cag dod xaglitini lime the burrito ! My Ds liked spicy things quite young but oddly not so much now.
Another day with DGS he didnt get up quite so early this morning .Smile

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lifelongfrugaleer · 01/06/2018 07:25

Hope today goes as well as it can sea Flowers

Do you like them cag? How exciting, fingers crossed

lifelongfrugaleer · 01/06/2018 07:26

The house not the family that is

Laska5772 · 01/06/2018 07:27

Argh! cagliotini i meant!

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Laska5772 · 01/06/2018 07:29

Hope you do CG everything crossed for you * How exciting !!

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Wolfcub · 01/06/2018 07:30

Cag that’s very exciting. Fingers crossed for you

Fluffycloudland77 · 01/06/2018 07:40

Cag Lets hope so, it would make such a difference to your lives.

Em He's not considering yours by forcing you into the company of your bully. I've read on the relationships board that in this situation their more worried about upsetting the parent because their love isn't reliable and comes with conditions. Whereas the spouse is seen as more reliable.

But everyone's got their limits. I hope the baby recovers quickly.

My halifax reward account has £13 from the last month, mostly Morrisons and Waitrose. I'm tempted to get £50 cashback at the till and then whizz round to the bank to pay it back in. See if I get 15% cashback on it.

Laska5772 · 01/06/2018 07:43

... i quite simply crap at typing on this phone keyboard.
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Cagliostro · 01/06/2018 07:57

Thanks guys! No idea about the houses really. We bid on everything unless there's a glaring reason not to (no garden, one particular part of town with high crime etc) and they don't always put much info up. One is a new build in a great location but I have a feeling the rooms are much smaller. So swings and roundabouts.

Really trying not to get too excited but OMFG. I was getting really depressed over it after a few weeks with no houses coming up at all so it's turned around rather quickly (not sure if those ahead of us have been housed - there were some properties we were not eligible for - or if it's because lots of families are on holiday for half term and thus not bidding... highest we've ever finished before is sixth) but also I've no idea what happens now. I think if you are first you get phoned on the Friday to view on Monday, so I presume they will phone them and wait until they've seen both and only then call us. That's if it's the same family of course, I'd say it's likely but not guaranteed.

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