COVID vaccine? Does it do anything?

[Greybottle]

I jumped at getting the COVID vaccines when they came out and I got all the vaccines that I was eligible for to date except for this year.

I got COVID in the summer time and I wasn't able to get the vaccine this winter. My GP recommended a 4 month wait.

It's just I got COVID twice. Once in 2022 and I had that bad too. I wasn't hospitalised but still I was ill with fever, body aches, headaches and coughs for over a week. I was rushed back to work prepaturely when I still wasn't 100% better.

I got COVID this summer too. I was floored with it.

A lot of people were floored with it this summer. Even though we got the COVID vaccines.

It's just I got a reminder text to book the vaccine today and I just don't know.

I am not anti vaccine but what is the point of the vaccine when youre still going to get exposed and become ill to this anyways?

I got flu in 2004 or 2005 and I was getting flu vaccine because of my work from about 2008 and I never had flue since 04/05. The flu vaccine works. But I am questioning the COVID vaccine? What is the point of going out of my way to travel to an establishment to get jabbed and sore for a few days and if I am exposed to COVID, I am likely still going to get it.

and why do you think people on their ( however many it is now) booster are suddenly becoming CT's and not wanting more?
What's made 83 year old Barbara suddenly say she thinks they're doing more harm than good?
( real life person) still watches BBC or ITv.
Barbara hasn't changed her viewing habits, internet habits or become friends with any new people.
Why would that be?
Would you call barbara CT, a bit thick, easily led or would you think she has used personal experience to make a decision? The same personal decision that a huge number have made this year.

Propaganda isn’t new. Check out every public information campaign since the birth of accessible media.

pretty much every campaign run during WWII proves your statement incorrect.

Not really, not when I see the rise in anti vaccination in my everyday life in general to great harm. 1/3 of people seems about right to me for conspiracy theories in general.

the fearmongering propaganda during covid was a whole new scale and if you can't see that then I assume you very sensibly tried to ignore it all by not using MSM or looking at those godawful lying posters everywhere about killing people if you went out.

As it was a new global pandemic with a virus killing millions across the world, hardly surprising.

Exactly. There is "fearmongering" every day, hardly new. See every Met Office weather warning, "There is wind 😂Amber alert. Do not leave your house or you might die. Hardly new or unprecedented.

no.
There is never a justification for lying to your population in order to create fear,
If you think that's OK then I suggest you're better suited to a different country where it seems to be acceptable

Interesting isn’t it, that so many people accused the Tories of corruption and dishonesty, but believed absolutely everything unquestioningly they told us about Covid. I know the defence will be, “but the scientists said…”

But it depends very much which scientists you chose to believe. Plenty of them were saying the government’s policy was wrong, but of course, a government is always going to choose those that support their particular agenda.

This isn’t me being a conspiracy theorist. There is no doubt Covid was a very serious illness for a few, but the response to it was farcical and in our fear, we allowed ourselves to be manipulated. I was genuinely terrified when Boris made that speech about lockdown on 23.3.20 but within 3 weeks we had all the shenanigans of ministers and experts popping out to their second homes, site seeing castles, travelling on trains after testing positive, visiting their relatives, mistresses etc (not forgetting the partying that emerged afterwards) That’s when it dawned on me that we were being taken as mugs.

ok, you seem to have collective amnesia about the level of fearmongering so there's no point engaging about that further.
If you really don't remember then that's a little concerning as you'll be sucked in by the propaganda if there's ever a next time.

why do you think people on their ( however many it is now) booster are suddenly becoming CT's and not wanting more?

are they definitely becoming CT’s? Like most things I would guess that complacency is a more likely reason people haven’t taken up the offer of a booster. That said, I don’t know the figures for the current flu/CV19 uptakes.

No one knew how the virus would spread, hospitals being able to cope, speed of the vaccine rollout so I don’t think it was unreasonable. Lots of lessons to learn by government, scientists, medical professionals and the public.

Interesting isn’t it, that so many people accused the Tories of corruption and dishonesty, but believed absolutely everything unquestioningly they told us about Covid. I know the defence will be, “but the scientists said…”

Close family members actually blocked me on fb for pointing this out ....

so lying to create fear in a population is OK in your book?
Scary stuff but each to their own

one persons information campaign is another persons propaganda.

there’s no ‘being sucked in’ involved unless you’re suggesting a cover up on a larger scale than Tiananmen Square.

"sucked in by the propaganda"

Don't be a sheeple. Wake up and stop following MSM. Sounds like an episode of that show with Alex Jones (Not the One Show Alex Jones)

But you aren't a conspiracy theorist of course.

And anti vaxxers like yourself without evidence only antidotal stories are dangerous.

we obviously have very different opinions about what is an acceptable amount of psychological abuse through fear and misinformation that a government can inflict on its citizens.

This would stand if it the fact that the UK government initially took a very different stance but the populaces exposure to worldwide media provoked an outcry and signs that the populace would take their own measures to avoid CV19 (it would have amounted to similar effects on the economy as a general strike would).

anyone who actually listened to scientists and doctors was well aware that the overriding view was ‘we don’t know. We can take an educated guess, but we don’t know’.

why are you saying sheeple,?
I've no idea who Alex Jones is?
Care to elaborate which con Theories I obviously subscribe to?

There is no doubting some Tories behaved like idiots (and not just Covid related) but I’ll still with listening to credible scientists, virologists and doctors. I ignore information from anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists.

Thank you! Dangerous is exactly what it is.

Clearly. I’m curious to know how you would manage civilisation?

yes, worldwide hysteria fuelled by MSM.
So why is MSM a good thing again?

I dread to think where you are getting your conspiracy theories from !

not by relentless campaigns of fear and misinformation