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COVID vaccine? Does it do anything?

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Greybottle · 09/12/2024 13:45

I jumped at getting the COVID vaccines when they came out and I got all the vaccines that I was eligible for to date except for this year.

I got COVID in the summer time and I wasn't able to get the vaccine this winter. My GP recommended a 4 month wait.

It's just I got COVID twice. Once in 2022 and I had that bad too. I wasn't hospitalised but still I was ill with fever, body aches, headaches and coughs for over a week. I was rushed back to work prepaturely when I still wasn't 100% better.

I got COVID this summer too. I was floored with it.

A lot of people were floored with it this summer. Even though we got the COVID vaccines.

It's just I got a reminder text to book the vaccine today and I just don't know.

I am not anti vaccine but what is the point of the vaccine when youre still going to get exposed and become ill to this anyways?

I got flu in 2004 or 2005 and I was getting flu vaccine because of my work from about 2008 and I never had flue since 04/05. The flu vaccine works. But I am questioning the COVID vaccine? What is the point of going out of my way to travel to an establishment to get jabbed and sore for a few days and if I am exposed to COVID, I am likely still going to get it.

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YourSpleenIsDamp · 09/12/2024 14:14

I've been fully vaccinated because I'm immunocompromised (medication for autoimmune arthritis). But then I had a booster in May this year, and woke up the next day in a severe arthritis flare which lasted two months - and it also rendered my arthritis meds useless. Meds had been working well til then, but we gave it several months and they'd just stopped working. Rheumatologist agreed it must have been the covid booster jab. I'm still in pain and housebound now with the arthritis because new meds take a few months to get going. Despite being fully vaccinated, I've had covid five times now - no more booster jabs for me, ever - I'll take my chances with covid.

Greybottle · 09/12/2024 14:14

I went online to my local GP to book a COVID vaccine but they have no available this December and I really don't fancy travelling into the city for a vaccine.

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EducatingArti · 09/12/2024 14:15

Greybottle · 09/12/2024 14:01

If it reduced severity - how come I still needed paxlovid - the covid anti viral? I was so ill with covid in the summer time. The vaccine did sweet f*ck all. I was still floored.

But maybe if you hadn't had the vaccine you would have needed to be hospitalised and might have taken even longer to recover.

Statistically the vaccines reduce severity and numbers of hospitalisations. This means on average there are fewer people getting it and fewer ending up in hospital but of course, looking at it from an individual view, you still might have been on the severe end!

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:15

gamerchick · 09/12/2024 14:13

Like fibromyalgia / heart problems / blood clots and other auto immune disorders I'm seeing in my anti vax friendship group who have had COVID, which was 'like a cold'. Life long stuff. Seems I'm hearing one diagnoses after another IRL. Not what ever is being posted on the internet.

Not what I'm seeing in real life,
Not heard a single person regret not taking the injections.
Lots of buyer's remorse from those who did take them

madaboutpurple · 09/12/2024 14:17

A close friend refused to have any inoculations. In January it will be a year since she died from having Covid.

Parker231 · 09/12/2024 14:17

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:15

Not what I'm seeing in real life,
Not heard a single person regret not taking the injections.
Lots of buyer's remorse from those who did take them

Having lost two friends who died of Covid just before the vaccine rollout, everyone I know is having the vaccines and grateful for them. No one is regretting their decision.

NewBuildNewGarden · 09/12/2024 14:18

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 13:54

Anecdotal ( before anyone jumps down my throat) but myself, husband and 3 sons have had none of the injections.
I assume we've had covid but at the most were rough for a day.
I know lots and lots of people who have had however many boosters and have been very ill with covid.
i also know lots of people who were very pro the injections and now say they wouldn't have any more after the horrendous side effects.
personally, I wouldn't have a covid injection even if paid.

www.ox.ac.uk/news/2024-05-03-ground-breaking-study-reveals-how-covid-19-vaccines-prevent-severe-disease

Get your facts sorted before spouting unfounded rubbish on the internet.

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:19

unless your friends are over the age of 75 they were very very much the exception.
The number of previously fit middle aged people who died of covid was absolutely minute

NewBuildNewGarden · 09/12/2024 14:19

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:19

unless your friends are over the age of 75 they were very very much the exception.
The number of previously fit middle aged people who died of covid was absolutely minute

And your creditable sources are where?

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:20

NewBuildNewGarden · 09/12/2024 14:18

www.ox.ac.uk/news/2024-05-03-ground-breaking-study-reveals-how-covid-19-vaccines-prevent-severe-disease

Get your facts sorted before spouting unfounded rubbish on the internet.

gosh, what an angry response.
What facts did I get wrong?
I was pretty specific that it was anecdotal

gamerchick · 09/12/2024 14:21

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:15

Not what I'm seeing in real life,
Not heard a single person regret not taking the injections.
Lots of buyer's remorse from those who did take them

Yeah people don't tend to make the link until it's pointed out. They just think they're unfortunate. People will make a link with the vaccine a lot quicker.

I personally don't give a shit if people get the vaccine or not but christ, even the most hardened conspiracy theorist has moved on. Tom hanks is an alien don't you know. The clouds are out to kill us. Get with the times man.

Parker231 · 09/12/2024 14:21

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:19

unless your friends are over the age of 75 they were very very much the exception.
The number of previously fit middle aged people who died of covid was absolutely minute

They were both under 70 with no underlying health conditions. Equally relevant are the numbers of long Covid cases and the long term impact this is having on their lives

Cookerhood · 09/12/2024 14:22

I think the graphs & deaths & hospitalisations before & after the vaccinations were introduced speak for themselves. People forget how scary it was.
A mixture of exposure from infection & vaccination have had a huge effect. Do you not remember how scary it all was at the beginning?

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:22

NewBuildNewGarden · 09/12/2024 14:19

And your creditable sources are where?

ONS which I used to look at every month to compare the hysteria being spouted on sites like this, and the fearmongering by eg, BBC and the actual reall ife figures.
they will still be available and are helpfully broken down into age groups.

UnitedOps · 09/12/2024 14:23

One of my sisters periods were impacted by the jab. She didn’t menstruate for 6 months. Her friend experienced the same thing. My other sister had more serious side effects- she had a brain clot and had to have an operation.

ThereIsALifeOutThere · 09/12/2024 14:23

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:19

unless your friends are over the age of 75 they were very very much the exception.
The number of previously fit middle aged people who died of covid was absolutely minute

But still much more than the flu.

Do you also say the flu vaccine isn’t worth having? Do you ensure your dcs have it at school etc…? Or is it just about Covid!

Fwiw the Covid vaccine also protects from Long Covid.

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:23

gamerchick · 09/12/2024 14:21

Yeah people don't tend to make the link until it's pointed out. They just think they're unfortunate. People will make a link with the vaccine a lot quicker.

I personally don't give a shit if people get the vaccine or not but christ, even the most hardened conspiracy theorist has moved on. Tom hanks is an alien don't you know. The clouds are out to kill us. Get with the times man.

I don;t understand the Tom Hanks and Clouds reference?
Sorry but how is that related to covid injections ( probably missing something obvious so apologies!)

ThereIsALifeOutThere · 09/12/2024 14:24

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:22

ONS which I used to look at every month to compare the hysteria being spouted on sites like this, and the fearmongering by eg, BBC and the actual reall ife figures.
they will still be available and are helpfully broken down into age groups.

I hope you realise that raw numbers don’t always give you an accurate idea of the situation agd have taken that into account …..

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:26

Cookerhood · 09/12/2024 14:22

I think the graphs & deaths & hospitalisations before & after the vaccinations were introduced speak for themselves. People forget how scary it was.
A mixture of exposure from infection & vaccination have had a huge effect. Do you not remember how scary it all was at the beginning?

no, I don't remember it being scary at the beginning.
I remember very emphatically being told it would be a mild illness for all but the most vulnerable and the very elderly.
The narrative then changed to scare the bejesus out of people but it didn't alter the facts and the statistics bore that out in terms of deaths and the demographic

ThereIsALifeOutThere · 09/12/2024 14:26

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:23

I don;t understand the Tom Hanks and Clouds reference?
Sorry but how is that related to covid injections ( probably missing something obvious so apologies!)

Thats about the crazy conspiracy theories around, some of which say Tom Hanks is an alien.
There was also the idea the people at the top like Musk, Trump etc… ate actually lizards etc…

Basically bonkers stuff, like some of the conspiracy stuff around vaccines

Parker231 · 09/12/2024 14:28

Cookerhood · 09/12/2024 14:22

I think the graphs & deaths & hospitalisations before & after the vaccinations were introduced speak for themselves. People forget how scary it was.
A mixture of exposure from infection & vaccination have had a huge effect. Do you not remember how scary it all was at the beginning?

I remember the records of each hospital and the numbers of Covid patients they were treating and how many of those were in ICU. Scary numbers

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:28

ThereIsALifeOutThere · 09/12/2024 14:26

Thats about the crazy conspiracy theories around, some of which say Tom Hanks is an alien.
There was also the idea the people at the top like Musk, Trump etc… ate actually lizards etc…

Basically bonkers stuff, like some of the conspiracy stuff around vaccines

oh right.
I believe the injections don't help the vast majority and are positively harmful in terms of side effects.
Still not sure how that would link to random conspiracy theories

ThereIsALifeOutThere · 09/12/2024 14:28

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:26

no, I don't remember it being scary at the beginning.
I remember very emphatically being told it would be a mild illness for all but the most vulnerable and the very elderly.
The narrative then changed to scare the bejesus out of people but it didn't alter the facts and the statistics bore that out in terms of deaths and the demographic

Nah.
There was much more frightening discourse at the start.
I remember a guy coming into our local corner shop with a full on hazard suit, googles etc…. To buy a pint of milk.
Thats how scared people were

NewBuildNewGarden · 09/12/2024 14:28

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:22

ONS which I used to look at every month to compare the hysteria being spouted on sites like this, and the fearmongering by eg, BBC and the actual reall ife figures.
they will still be available and are helpfully broken down into age groups.

Anecdotal stories amount to hysteria and fearmongering. Without providing creditable sources you're part of that problem. The ONS is of course a good source for data, but it isn't the whole picture.

Notmoog · 09/12/2024 14:30

ThereIsALifeOutThere · 09/12/2024 14:28

Nah.
There was much more frightening discourse at the start.
I remember a guy coming into our local corner shop with a full on hazard suit, googles etc…. To buy a pint of milk.
Thats how scared people were

well he obviously had a mental health problem.
We were very much told only the very old and already ill were vulnerable.

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