Why is it not considered necessary to vaccinate now?

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Possibly a stupid question.

I just read on another thread about how the vaccine helped people to catch it in a more ' manageable way'. But presumably the vaccines aren't still working , so what has changed?

I am 3 weeks into a horrendous bout of Covid. I really wish I could at at least have paid for a booster. There is no way I could have gone in to work, I have managed an hour or two some days. So surely the economy is going to be impacted if we all end up getting this ill a couple of times a year?

I had my covid jab around 4 weeks ago. 11 days ago tested positive. Now on antibiotics as have underlying conditions and respiratory issues. I’m so pleased I got the booster as I could have been way worse than I was.

Moved to same policy as flu jab. The sick/ elderly/ vulnerable get it. Some people will pay.

Many of us will take our chances. Now that there’s more strains vaccines are less effective too.

Just a theory, but could the excess deaths be due to a combination of factors due either directly or indirectly to the lockdowns?

Poor mental health
Increase in obesity
Lower immunity to other viruses
etc

Too expensive

I'm 59 and have had both covid and flu jabs. Offered to me as I have immunosuppressant drugs for rheumatoid arthritis. I've had Covid twice as well - not fun either time - but not as grim the second time.

Lost count of how many covid jabs I've had - maybe 4 ?

I work in a hospital, with vulnerable patients too. None of them have been dying specifically from covid in the past year or two.

Like the flu vaccine, the Covid vaccine is updated to include (and thus be effective for) the latest strains. That's how these particular vaccines work. Why take chances with your health?

I don't think THEY know anything at all but if you want to 'follow the science' that is up to you.

I am in the 'older' category and I have more faith in my own immune system than any 'unproven to be absolutely effective Covid jab' to protect me.
If a person is extra vulnerable however it makes sense for them to take all precautions they think they need.

I refused the covid jab but accepted the flu jab - I know many of my cohort who have made the same decisions (is it now version no 5?)

So I have freed up my covid jab to be offered to anyone who needs it or thinks they do.

@ruby1957 I trust my immune system as I don’t suffer from any health conditions but like to give it extra help. The Covid vaccine trains your immune system to respond to the virus quickly and effectively, preventing you becoming seriously unwell. The vaccine works with your immune system to build immune memory for the virus to help you fight the infection if you get it again.

I got offered both flu and covid when I took my elderly mum for it at the local townhall. I'm 56.

It's been a while since I've read such high levels of misinformation and conspiracy theories on one thread.

Not all of those 24000 will have died from covid alone. To be honest I bet if we went from those that died only of covid it would be a very small number.
My aunt last year passed away from stage 4 cancer. It was only a day or so after she'd passed away the hospital told my uncle a swab they'd done just before she passed away came back as positive for covid. So that was listed as one of the causes on her death certificate even though it wasn't the covid that killed her.

Two of my deaths died with Covid. They caught Covid (just before the vaccine rollout started) and had massive heart attacks which killed then. The heart attacks were brought on my Covid affecting their organs. They have heart failure and Covid on their death certificates.

A lot of name-numbers on this and other covid threads denying vaccine efficacy - it’s almost like on twitter/X where the bots all pile in with misinformation. They’re all name-numbers too.

Agree. It was never necessary.

I've got covid now, I've got a runny nose and that's it.

Why don’t you think the vaccine programme was necessary?

The majority of deaths will be from vaccinated people as the majority of the population are vaccinated. Basic maths.

Lucky you.

I’ve had fevers, chest pain, cough Etc It may be mild in that I’m not hospitalised but it’s hardly a runny nose.

A bit less of a rollout than flu as asthmatic people don’t get offered a booster. Flu vaccines I’ve generally been in the first group invited each autumn. 2 slightly younger friends - one with epilepsy and the other with diabetes type 1 got both the flu and the covid vacs this autumn

I had covid twice (twice pregnant and while boosted) and it was barely a cold, just a minor tickle in my throat.

I had it again recently having not had a booster for a couple of years as I'm not in a high risk category and it was as close to a flu as I've ever had! It was horrible and I'm still not completely better 3 weeks on. Needed a full week off work and 3 full days in bed. And I'm a mum of young kids and don't "do" sick in bed lol

The lack of critical thinking on this thread is scary.

You’d get a home visit from a roving vaccination team.

I am sorry for your loss. You are obviously not a healthcare professional, so why do you think that COVID wasn’t a contributing factor?

It always was bullshit.

Not properly tested - and only ever had emergency approval.

No you haven’t. Your refusal makes absolutely no difference to vaccine availability.

This is a lie.