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Why is it not considered necessary to vaccinate now?

187 replies

Movinghouseatlast · 04/11/2023 09:52

Possibly a stupid question.

I just read on another thread about how the vaccine helped people to catch it in a more ' manageable way'. But presumably the vaccines aren't still working , so what has changed?

I am 3 weeks into a horrendous bout of Covid. I really wish I could at at least have paid for a booster. There is no way I could have gone in to work, I have managed an hour or two some days. So surely the economy is going to be impacted if we all end up getting this ill a couple of times a year?

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MenorcaMarguerite · 04/11/2023 11:02

Topseyt123 · 04/11/2023 10:12

I got mine in early October along with my flu vaccine.

I think it is now slotted in with the yearly round of flu vaccines for vulnerable people.

It is not exactly the same cohort. I get the annual free flu vaccine but am not entitled to a covid one.

Sunshower86 · 04/11/2023 11:04

TeenLifeMum · 04/11/2023 09:56

They are still vaccinating older and vulnerable people plus front line nhs - it’s moved to being the same roll out at the flu vaccine.

It’s not the exact same. I’m eligible for the flu vaccine but not a Covid booster.

Notmetoo · 04/11/2023 11:09

I've just had my 5th jab so they must think it is still important for older and vulnerable groups.
I think it's a matter of cost and supply so they only offer it to those they think are more vulnerable.
I had Covid just before I had my latest booster but wasn't very whereas I have known many younger people who have been very ill with it.
I'm convinced it's because I am so well vaccinated

Flopsythebunny · 04/11/2023 11:14

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Durrrrrr that's because they are generally old and or have existing serious medical conditions. Covid can be so serious for them that they cannot survive it even with vaccination

FreeezePeach · 04/11/2023 11:15

There is no way I could have gone in to work, I have managed an hour or two some days. So surely the economy is going to be impacted if we all end up getting this ill a couple of times a year?

I'm sorry it's affected you this badly but it doesn't affect everyone this way.

I've had Covid twice and worked from home both times. I've had two vaccinations and refused any more after that.

Hope you feel better soon Flowers

Growlybear83 · 04/11/2023 11:16

I had my covid booster in September and then my flu jab a week later. My pharmacy said they had been inundated with people wanting covid boosters.

Parker231 · 04/11/2023 11:18

Movinghouseatlast · 04/11/2023 09:52

Possibly a stupid question.

I just read on another thread about how the vaccine helped people to catch it in a more ' manageable way'. But presumably the vaccines aren't still working , so what has changed?

I am 3 weeks into a horrendous bout of Covid. I really wish I could at at least have paid for a booster. There is no way I could have gone in to work, I have managed an hour or two some days. So surely the economy is going to be impacted if we all end up getting this ill a couple of times a year?

Hope you’re feeling better soon - we’ll quite a lot people off work with Covid. Too ill to work from home either.

ruby1957 · 04/11/2023 11:22

CameleonAreFightingBack · 04/11/2023 10:56

Nothing has changed.

Its just they calculated it’s cheaper to look after young people in hospital than to vaccinate all of them.
Never mind some will die as a result
Never mind some will develop LC, heart attacks etc etc…

The level of excess death is still very high.
Its very high in young people, not in older ones….

But … money….

Note that other countries havE NOT taken this position and everyone can be vaccinated.

Where do you get this information - reliable source statistics would help?

MenopauseSucks · 04/11/2023 11:27

I normally get the free flu jab but this year - mid-September - was called in for both flu & Covid.
Bizarrely I don't usually get called in for the flu jab until late October/early November!
The surgery was vaccinating as many people as early as possible.

amylou8 · 04/11/2023 11:30

Because it's not particularly effective, only certain people are at risk, and most people would tell then where to stick it anyway.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 04/11/2023 11:36

CameleonAreFightingBack · 04/11/2023 10:56

Nothing has changed.

Its just they calculated it’s cheaper to look after young people in hospital than to vaccinate all of them.
Never mind some will die as a result
Never mind some will develop LC, heart attacks etc etc…

The level of excess death is still very high.
Its very high in young people, not in older ones….

But … money….

Note that other countries havE NOT taken this position and everyone can be vaccinated.

Your last statement is untrue. the German government have destroyed all their stocks, and will not be vaccinating the population against Covid this year.

So either they want everyone to be sick or die, or they have analysed the statistics on efficacy and come to a rational conclusion.

PS the excess death rate amongst the young is Not from Covid, although they have nearly all been vaccinated and boosted (in UK ) 🤔

DRS1970 · 04/11/2023 11:42

I had a COVID vaccination at the same time as my Flu vaccination. I am in a vulnerable group though, so that is the reason I received both.

AinsleyMoroccanCouscous · 04/11/2023 11:44

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kitchenideas12 · 04/11/2023 11:45

CameleonAreFightingBack · 04/11/2023 10:56

Nothing has changed.

Its just they calculated it’s cheaper to look after young people in hospital than to vaccinate all of them.
Never mind some will die as a result
Never mind some will develop LC, heart attacks etc etc…

The level of excess death is still very high.
Its very high in young people, not in older ones….

But … money….

Note that other countries havE NOT taken this position and everyone can be vaccinated.

Which is absolutely right. There is no money left as it is, so with the best will in the world I would rather someone took the statistical, demographic, non-emotional look at things, and decided that x number of people will die, and the rest get to keep more of our rapidly-attenuating public services!

HelloDaisy · 04/11/2023 14:39

CameleonAreFightingBack · 04/11/2023 11:01

@gotomomo , can I ask why if it’s that mild, the level of excess death is so high? 24.000 people this year alone.

Why do you think it’s happening?
Why are young people dying when they are not suppose to? Like dying of heart attack in their 30s which is extremely rare.

The virus is not milder.
Some people, despite what you seem to think, haven’t caught covid.
You take a huge risk on your health each time you get covid (not talking about death here btw)
And the fact there are many variants means we simply can’t get ‘immunised’ just like having had the flu one year doesn’t protect you the following year - with its new variant.

Is that 24k people have died because of covid in UK this year alone?
That’s a huge amount of people to have died of one virus before winter even sets in…

NotReadyForAutumnYet · 04/11/2023 16:56

Govt have enough vaccines procured in case they have to do a 50plus rollout if shit hits the fan too much. They used up their older stock first, so many of the most vulnerable who were prioritised for vaccines got given the older stock (ffs) which won't provide as good a protection. Think it's a cost issue of administering the vaccine.

MrShady · 04/11/2023 17:04

I had it with my flu jab
8 vaccines now

MidnightOnceMore · 04/11/2023 17:06

CameleonAreFightingBack · 04/11/2023 10:56

Nothing has changed.

Its just they calculated it’s cheaper to look after young people in hospital than to vaccinate all of them.
Never mind some will die as a result
Never mind some will develop LC, heart attacks etc etc…

The level of excess death is still very high.
Its very high in young people, not in older ones….

But … money….

Note that other countries havE NOT taken this position and everyone can be vaccinated.

This is what I was going to say.

Annoying to see other nations still vaccinating while we're not even able to purchase it.

EggEggEgg · 05/11/2023 01:59

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen

Note that other countries havE NOT taken this position and everyone can be vaccinated.

Your last statement is untrue. the German government have destroyed all their stocks, and will not be vaccinating the population against Covid this year.

In Australia, everyone over the age of 5 is eligible for free vaccinations. They are easily available at GPs and pharmacies.

EggEggEgg · 05/11/2023 02:02

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It's just simple statistics. Most people in the population are vaccinated, so most people dying with Covid have been vaccinated at some point.

Tinkerbyebye · 05/11/2023 02:05

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It’s not, and never has been a cure for covid. It’s impact is to stop those who catch covid getting it so badly they need hospitalisation, and unfortunately people can die with/off covid

In that respect I think it works.

Just like flu jabs are not a cure, but are there to reduce impact in the same way

Tinkerbyebye · 05/11/2023 02:09

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen

Your last statement is untrue. the German government have destroyed all their stocks, and will not be vaccinating the population against Covid this year.

a quick google says they started a programme September 2023 similar to ours

luckbealadytonight · 05/11/2023 02:51

HelloDaisy · 04/11/2023 14:39

Is that 24k people have died because of covid in UK this year alone?
That’s a huge amount of people to have died of one virus before winter even sets in…

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No, that is 24000 excess deaths from all causes.

Pinkpinkpink15 · 05/11/2023 03:21

plumtreebroke · 04/11/2023 10:58

I am eligible and would like to get it, but my GP is not doing them and the nearest pharmacy that is doing them is miles away. I can easily walk into the nearest town, but no one is doing them there according to the NHS web site. I don't know what you would do if you were infirm, for me it's just a niggle that I will have to figure out exactly where this place is and (probably) get someone to drive me, just in case I get a reaction, although I've been fine after the others.

@plumtreebroke have you tried ringing the chemists? a friend of mine couldn't find one on the NHS, but had heard of a pharmacy doing them so she called & got them done there.

Tilllly · 05/11/2023 03:35

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
About 50 deaths a day - but I can't see anything about a breakdown by age

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