If you didn't get the jab, would you consider having it now?

[AreYouVeryAnti]

You'd better be quick if you're healthy and under 50...

"The Telegraph understands the Government is also preparing to wind down the open offer of the first two doses over the coming months. The move will mean unvaccinated healthy under-50s will soon not be able to get a Covid jab unless one is recommended by a medical professional."

Let's frighten the pants of them shall we!?it was never deadly and they played the public like fools whilst partying and laughing. Lets stick to what happened during lockdown and covid shall we? Not bring up things that are common sense and we all know right from wrong. I'm not easily manipulated and never fell for their proganda and abuse tactics.

Slow hand clap for not "falling for it". Are you holed up somewhere?

Meanwhile back in the real world most people happily and gladly took the vaccine. Like 6 billion world wide. Research has also moved on and more is known now.

Also it's only a few people who so consistently mis use the word coerce and abuse. Unsurprisingly they seem to inhabit a special world of paranoia.

Let's block funding for disabled children shall we if you don't go along with what I say? If that's not coercive I don't know what is?

Mat Hancock is a pig but nevertheless I'm grateful for the vaccine program.

The government says you can't smoke in public buildings, have to have vehicle insurance, can't physically harm someone else, can't have sex with someone without their consent, can't kill someone else, have to have your child in some kind of education, etc. etc. etc. Laws exist to force you to comply with societally mandated rules, ideally designed to protect us on both an individual and a societal level. By the other poster's definition, that's coercion.

No that's laws. People abide by those things because they are laws and there are reporting procedures when they don't.
Being unvaxxed is not against the law, so social punishment is coercion, isolating someone socially is an abuse tactic, othering them and creating an underclass.
We don't do this when someone breaks the law we report them to the police.
Making something into a strict rule in your own head and then sitting in judgement over those who don't follow said rule is being a power hungry cunt.

I cut controlling people from my dating life, I distance myself from controlling relatives and put them on strict information diets when it comes to my personal business.

Bullying someone over their vaccine status is no different to deciding how someone else should have voted, how they raise their own kids, whether they were right to break up with their ex or not, whether they drink more than you think they should.
We can all make decisions that we feel are in our own best interest, it's nothing in the world like saying you can't kill someone.

*No that's laws. People abide by those things because they are laws and there are reporting procedures when they don't.
Being unvaxxed is not against the law, so social punishment is coercion, isolating someone socially is an abuse tactic, othering them and creating an underclass.
We don't do this when someone breaks the law we report them to the police.
Making something into a strict rule in your own head and then sitting in judgement over those who don't follow said rule is being a power hungry cunt.

I cut controlling people from my dating life, I distance myself from controlling relatives and put them on strict information diets when it comes to my personal business.

Bullying someone over their vaccine status is no different to deciding how someone else should have voted, how they raise their own kids, whether they were right to break up with their ex or not, whether they drink more than you think they should.
We can all make decisions that we feel are in our own best interest, it's nothing in the world like saying you can't kill someone.*

Did you forget there was a pandemic?

No.

Honestly all these 'bullied', 'coerced ' , 'abused' people who didn't have to take the vaccine.

You didn't want it, you didn't take it - hooray.

This is such a victim stance going on here.

The real actual victims have been long forgotten behind the whining about being able to do what you wanted to do.

Everyone seems to forget there was a actual pandemic going on.

And before you say " it was never a threat "
No one knew what the threat was.

Also if you mix with people who are rude enough to criticise your vaccine status - give them a wide swerve.

I wouldn't be so sure that it didn't have an effect on them.

My friend didn't get a vaccine, I knew she got a hard time about it from her family, I saw morning programs, nasty posts here, newspaper articles saying horrible things about the unvaxxed and I knew it was spilling into 'normal' peoples attitudes but I always believed in freedom of choice so we were still good friends and when I thought vaccines were effective I didn't think an unvaccinated person was a risk to me because I had one, if mine wasn't enough to protect me from her then why would I have so much faith in the one she could have had that it would have made a difference.

This year we were talking and I said about some people I knew and what happened to their health after vax and how I thought she might have had the right idea all along, she burst into tears, she's had such a horrible time and it's been fucking years now so plenty of time to move on from it.
I felt quite bad that I didn't realise because I've always considered myself to be staunchly on the side of people making their own choices and I wish I'd known because we didn't really talk about the vaccines in detail, all I really knew at the time was that she didn't want it and some people were funny with her.

Everyone seems to forget there was a actual pandemic going on.

I wasn't going to say it wasn't a threat, but pandemic just means infectious and widespread, in reality didn't less than 1% of people become hospitalised?

I don't think the word Pandemic means anything to the severity of illness.

I remember at the time a thread on here about whether someone was right to buy a kettle and nothing else in Tesco and whether it was an essential enough purchase in a "global Pandemic", the word introduced a level of assumed severity.

I wasn't going to say it wasn't a threat, but pandemic just means infectious and widespread, in reality didn't less than 1% of people become hospitalised?

Doesn't matter. I don't know how many did and cba to look. If it was your 1% of people it would have been terrible. just like the story about your friend. She's just one person but it has still affected you.

Percentage just makes it anonymous and It was enough to push NHS staff to breaking point.

I remember at the time a thread on here about whether someone was right to buy a kettle and nothing else in Tesco and whether it was an essential enough purchase in a "global Pandemic", the word introduced a level of assumed severity.

I'm sure you know well enough not take the stuff you read on here seriously! This is not real life!

As someone has pointed out it was a novel coronavirus. Hospitals didn't know how to treat it. That is crucial and frightening. Things have changed a lot and people have short memories.

I would suggest everyone watches the documentary of the Italian hospitals and the devastation they faced.

A plandemic more like but keep telling yourself it was a deadly pandemic of it makes you feel better.

@itwasntmetho

This year we were talking and I said about some people I knew and what happened to their health after vax and how I thought she might have had the right idea all along, she burst into tears, she's had such a horrible time and it's been fucking years now so plenty of time to move on from it.
I felt quite bad that I didn't realise because I've always considered myself to be staunchly on the side of people making their own choices and I wish I'd known because we didn't really talk about the vaccines in detail, all I really knew at the time was that she didn't want it and some people were funny with her.

that was really kind of you to acknowledge your friend in that way. being ostracised from family and close friends has been brutal on many of us, so i can only imagine how much your words meant to your friend. thank you for sharing something kind.

A plandemic more like but keep telling yourself it was a deadly pandemic of it makes you feel better.

Keep up the Fear 👍🏻

it was never deadly

So what's your explanation for all the dead people?

Oh, and a news flash. If you believe it's a 'plandemic' you are, in fact, one of the easily manipulated.

So what's your explanation for all the dead people?

In a nutshell.

I remember the "stories" from doctors about their dying unvaccinated patients being intubated and begging for the vaccine. It was like a copy and paste job on social media. I collected six or seven identical word for word spews.

I remember the "stories" from doctors about their dying unvaccinated patients being intubated and begging for the vaccine. It was like a copy and paste job on social media. I collected six or seven identical word for word spews.

You believe what you read on SM? Sigh.

Is that with covid? After they were vaccinated? It's a plandemic, and more dying of excess diseases now thanks to the propaganda. You were fooled. It's all coming out and more to come. Oh and it didn't come from a bat LOL and again no where near as deadly. I'm still not

It's one of 'those' ones.

Perpetual state of paranoia eh @Blueflag22

“A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.” - Mark Twain

Sadly that's what many are chasing after, @Blueflag22 included, the lies put out by self-proclaimed 'experts' on the Internet.

What is very troubling is that when the next pandemic arises, the Blueflags of this world will not believe they need any protection from that either, and next time things may not go so well for them.

I'm part of a scientific community who are made up of people with scientific backgrounds at all levels, from world-famous professors to graduates, post-grads and people with an interest in science. I prefer to listen to the views and debates there than believe some nobody on the 'net who claims it's all a 'plandemic'.