If you could go back in time, would you still get the jab?

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If you could go back in time, would you still get the Covid jab?

I don’t really care if you’re vaccinated or not, but I’m interested if people would go back and change their decision?

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I'm not usually pedantic and this is the first time I've done this in the ten years I've been posting on Mumsnet, but Alison you really shouldn't be talking about other peoples education levels and posting things like...

"I think experts in the field no more than anti vaxxer who are brainless."

and

"Covid kills people so anti vaxxers need to get a grip and stop there rubbish"

The words are know and their in the context you're trying to use them.

Mostly it's the content of what you're saying though, I'd be curious to see these studies about peoples education levels and wonder why anyone would be invested enough in looking for evidence of low education, what does that finding achieve exactly? It sounds like a smear campaign.

Is it to create an underclass of the less compliant who make a different personal medical decision? If this 'study' is real, do you ever open your own mind and question why you should be encouraged to judge a whole group of people like that? Why are you encouraged to look down on them as bad people or of lower intelligence? Who is asking you to draw these conclusions and what do they get out of it if these people are successfully coerced?
80,000 NHS workers were willing to loose their jobs over their vaccination status, are these people not educated? The uptake for boosters is very low, are most of the country poorly educated?

@sunglassesonthetable sorry, I know I said I wouldn’t tag you again, but I’m about to be removed by request from the lovely@AlisonInClover sure this ain’t you? Hahaha

I shouldn’t laugh, but this is maddeningly funny, I will be removed for highlighting a person spreading “misinformation” from a pro
vax stance?

How can a person who decides not to get a Covid jab be putting others at risk? This is false.

Do you get told if you're being removed?

Or course! It's the reason covid isn't as deadly for a huge percentage of the population!

@itwasntmetho no, you’re just no longer able to post. I think when you’re reported your account is disabled for a while, pending investigation.
I feel like such a rouge! Being thrown off mumsnet by Alison.

*sorry, I know I said I wouldn’t tag you again, but I’m about to be removed by request from the lovely@AlisonInClover sure this ain’t you? Hahaha

I shouldn’t laugh, but this is maddeningly funny, I will be removed for highlighting a person spreading “misinformation” from a pro
vax stance?

How can a person who decides not to get a Covid jab be putting others at risk? This is false.*m

No, not me. Never ask for anything to be removed.
Prefer to let things stand so it's obvious when someone is being a dick. Just like the stuff you posted.

*sorry, I know I said I wouldn’t tag you again, but I’m about to be removed by request from the lovely@AlisonInClover sure this ain’t you? Hahaha

I shouldn’t laugh, but this is maddeningly funny, I will be removed for highlighting a person spreading “misinformation” from a pro
vax stance?

How can a person who decides not to get a Covid jab be putting others at risk? This is false.**

No, not me. Never ask for anything to be removed.
Prefer to let things stand so it's obvious when someone is being a dick. Just like with the stuff you posted.

Oops Rogue.. a rouge rogue now!

sorry, I know I said I wouldn’t tag you again, but I’m about to be removed by request from the lovely@AlisonInClover sure this ain’t you? Hahaha

You also told me not to tag you and comment on your posts. Did you also draw a line or something?

I think you forgot it's an open forum maybe and not one you run? Or give orders on.

Tag away. It's not like I took any notice.

No, hospitalised with myocarditis a few days after (extensive investigation found nothing else had likely caused it and the hospital had treated others who came in a few days after MRNA) and it has caused scarring. Also an auto-immune reaction. Life as I knew it is over.

I am not anti-vaccination at all, had always taken anything recommended without any worry or issues. Concerned that there will be a loss of faith in all traditional vaccinations. It is very frustrating that the discussion is often strongly pro or anti-vax, with a loss of reality. Was initially told it was 'vanishingly rare', but the Drs treating me have also treated many others. There are serious reactions and people need to be aware of what to look out for - feelings of heartburn, shortness of breath and palpitations in my case. Discussion needs to move on to how to identify those at risk, effectively diagnose and treat them.

It may well be correct that the 9% of the adult population who tend not to have the vaccine have a lower educational level. I have not had the vaccine but am probably a fairly high educational level, but I may well be the exception. The state let us choose if we had the vaccine (they UK has found in the past that voluntary vaccination gets higher response rates so decided early on to take that stance which was the right thing to do.

"If you arent taking the vaccine you are putting your own health and society at risk."
I thought most people were not offered the vaccine since early 2021 so I am not sure the above is actually relevant now and I have become an acceptable person, not a killer, not whereas in 2020/21 I could be regarded as a dangerous person for not choosing to "protect others" by having the voluntary vaccine.

@Pumpkin20222 a good post- I also posted about my neurological nightmare post covid/vaccine ( could be either in my case as I appear to have had them both around the same time- unbeknown to me ( I tested positive just after) -- there are plenty of people like me too - in my case it was my 4th jab- so I don't think this pro/anti jousting is very helpful. On the pro side there are millions of people who have had no bad long term reaction to either covid or vaccine however I think their does need to be an understanding that either the illness or the vaccine in many cases has caused long term health issues- and the debate and discussions and research needs to go on

On the pro side there are millions of people who have had no bad long term reaction to either covid or vaccine however I think their does need to be an understanding that either the illness or the vaccine in many cases has caused long term health issues- and the debate and discussions and research needs to go on

Couldn't agree more.

“Our findings show that the risk of myocarditis from being infected by COVID-19 is far greater than from getting the vaccine,” said Dr. Navya Voleti, a resident physician in the Department of Medicine at Penn State Health Milton S. Hershey Medical Center.

This “anti vaccers” are stupid amuses me somewhat. I know several people who declined and in all cases have a higher level of education/work in professional
services. I think it’s just more fodder to
whip people into compliance.

luckily I couldn’t give two shiny shits about headlines like that and chose to remain unvaccinated due to my assessment of personal risk and the fact it wasn’t tested for transmission

@sunglassesonthetable thank you- I think in my case I unfortunately had the vaccine whilst unknowingly had covid - it sent my neuro system into complete meltdown - very frightening - 5 months later I'm still not right however on the positive front , I've had multiple tests and bloods galore that I would normally never have got given the current state of things.

I think Mumsnet are probably being bombarded with stuff from Public relations departments at pfizer and whatever government departments (or as it seems now bizarrely THE ARMY as recent news reports have it!) trying to mange the situation online and it's a real headache?

The fact that you always reference Pfizer (rather than other drugs companies who have produced coronavirus vaccines) just demonstrates you're repeating claims from career anti-vaccine groups, as for whatever reason this is who they are focussed on.

I have been posting for a long time. No issue with someone's personal opinion on vaccination, but I will point out misinformation (defined in many previous posts) that causes harm and anxiety in people who have been vaccinated or who would benefit from a booster.

No issue with someone's personal opinion on vaccination, but I will point out misinformation (defined in many previous posts) that causes harm and anxiety in people who have been vaccinated or who would benefit from a booster.

Yep good call

Why on earth would pfizer or "government departments" bother sending people to argue into the winds onto a UK parenting forum at this point in time? @HelpfulMonkey

Vaccination is currently recommended for a tiny minority of the population here. For these people, this relative benefit:risk profile is so firmly established you would hope they would take advice from their HCPs.

And it is abudantly clear that presenting evidence based points and linking sources doesn't make a blind bit of difference on these kinds of threads. People will name change and repeat the same old nonsense, copied and pasted from anti-vaccine groups, over and over again.

It is clear in your posts too. Moderna for example has a similar efficacy and side effect profile as Pfizer. Yet you are so focussed on slamming Pfizer, presumably because you get all your information from the "big names" in the for-proft anti vaccine industry, and this is the company they target their misinfo towards.

Consider why you are blindly repeating their claims without thinking for yourself,

I think Mumsnet are probably being bombarded with stuff from Public relations departments at pfizer and whatever government departments (or as it seems now bizarrely THE ARMY as recent news reports have it!) trying to mange the situation online and it's a real headache?

Love it!