Has anyone seen the 1,000 peer reviewed medical papers about vaccine injuries.

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community.covidvaccineinjuries.com/compilation-peer-reviewed-medical-papers-of-covid-vaccine-injuries/

Would this influence anyone from getting the next booster?

some people will seroconvert permanently. Will be forever immune with only one jab. The second jab is to catch those that don’t have a response to the first

Source? I haven’t heard this and certainly hasn’t covered like this in the general press.

@sunglassesonthetable what is CBA?
I am only asking genuine questions, why so rude?
If someones has a healthy immune system are they not less likely to get ill from a virus. Why has the government only recently started advocating the use of Vitamin D for the elderly?

There are many more questions that have not been answered by the experts hence the confusion amongst people.

It means can’t be arsed, but you knew that if you thought the poster was being rude. Like I can’t be arsed to engage with someone who is all “just asking questions” whilst pulling out some obscure historical pseudoscience that is widely used in anti-vaxx circles. If you’d really been researching terrain theory you’d know it has been disproven for hundreds of years. At least be honest.

@AKnitterofThings

No I wasn't trying to be rude. It means can't be arsed and you'd be correct if you said I probably wouldn't say it in real life.

If I was with you face to face , I'd probably just smile politely, excuse myself and walk away rolling my eyes. I'd leave someone more knowledgeable and patient to explain it to you. Like they're doing here.

Sigh.

Vitamin D is just one of the latest in a line of things that have been pushed as a miracle COVID cure. When you look into the evidence - it just isn't there.

The gov do recommend do recommend vitamin D supplments (and have done pre pandemic) and of course if you are deficient you will be more suceptible to COVID & other other infectious disease.

But all this is ignored and it's being pushed in this very tedious way by certain groups - "big pharma" doesn't want you to know about vit d! You don't need to be vaccinated if you take vit d!

And then these claims are filter down to places like MN, where posters repeat them, despite not being paid to do so (I would demand payment when the ones you are benefitting make so much money out of it - you're doing free advertising )

@foliageeverywhere again why the ‘sigh’?
Surely if genuine questions had been answered in the first place there would not be uncertainty. Instead we are made to feel stupid for asking. There was no advice on boosting your immune system from any government bodies that I am aware of. That would have been beneficial to everyone I would have thought.
How am I doing free advertising by asking a question?

What questions do you think haven't been answered?

Vitamin D - like the other miracle cures - has been looked into as a COVID treatment/preventative. There is no robust evidence to suggest it's effective.

There was no advice on boosting your immune system from any government bodies
Because there are no miracles in "boosting" your immune system - beyond the advice we already have in place. Vit D supplements are already recommended, and vitamin D deficiency know to be a bad thing (I was diagnosed maybe 5 years ago, and given a supplement).

How am I doing free advertising by asking a question?
Because large anti-vaccine groups make huge amounts of profits from these kinds of claims which all feed into the anti-vaccine movement.

Genuine questions were answered. The government held press conferences everyday for over a year. It’s all the media reported on. The general advice to take vitamin D was repeated several times and I’ve seen it on posters in hospitals etc long before covid. I personally had some doubts about the speed the vaccine came about but I was presented with information from several reputable sources to logically explain the process and was reassured. Asking about terrain theory which has widely been discredited for hundreds of years is like me asking a barber if they can do an amputation or asking the doctor to check my humours are in balance. It’s not coming from a place of logic or science.

At the heart of all this you need to ask yourself what does the government have to gain by lying to us about the efficacy of the vaccine? The government want us to be healthy and working to pay tax and to use public services as little as possible. Giving out a vaccine that is harmful than good would just create more work for the government.

again why the ‘sigh’?

Didn't mean to ignore this @AKnitterofThings

Because vitamin D is just the latest in an endless merry-go-round of "HERE'S THE LATEST COVID MIRACLE CURE BIG PHARMA DOENS'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT"

The end result is always the same - it's something for which there is a load of junk evidence for (dodgy science, retracted papers, often a lot of fraud). When it is looked into properly - i.e., well powered well designed RCTs - no robust evidence is found. See HCQ, ivermectin etc.

It's frustrating because it's an obvious tactic by anti-vaccine groups, but seems to have an infinite lifespan.

I’m not talking about Covid cure conspiracies, more basic things we can all do to booster our immune system. I note today that the new health secretary is talking about something related to this but I have not listened properly yet.
Vitamins, minerals, water, good nutritional food, low sugar, fresh air, weight loss (holds head in shame here) surely these should be promoted all the time when talking about health by the government.

Vitamins, minerals, water, good nutritional food, low sugar, fresh air, weight loss (holds head in shame here) surely these should be promoted all the time when talking about health by the government.

Surely these things are constantly being promoted? But they will never of themselves be enough.n

I don’t think they are promoted enough. It’s all too fragmented. There needs to be a massive investment in illness prevention. Anything that boosts our immune systems will make us less susceptible to future viruses, so that must be a good thing.
I know we have gone off topic here (sorry OP) but it is a good thing to question what we are told especially when there were so many backtracks through the whole pandemic (masks, no masks, vaccine passports, no passports, lockdowns, freedom day etc)

But this isn't new information.

Pre-pandemic there was already an obesity crisis, epidemic of mental health conditions, heart disease etc

Millions have been invested, and are continued to be invested, to encourage people to exercise, eat well, do all the things that you've mentioned - but these are incredibly hard interventions to make.

Besides which - these changes are long term - realistically, the things that reduced death & severe illness from coronavirus were vaccination and the other measures that were put in place like masks.

I don’t think it’s the governments job to tell us common sense things constantly. The vast majority of adults knows what a healthy lifestyle entails (says the woman eating biscuits right now). We shouldn’t need to be spoon fed. But as other posters say there is lots out there, couch to 5k, healthy eating campaigns, stop smoking campaigns. There was a whole thing in the news last month about doctors prescribing exercise.

As for the government response to the pandemic. It was a shambles but it was also an emerging situation as scientists learned more about the virus and politicians balanced that with what the electorate would accept. I have no idea why that has anything to do with vaccine confidence though…

Here @AKnitterofThings - to start you off
www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/food-guidelines-and-food-labels/the-eatwell-guide/

Lol 😂 people actually believe this...

What makes you reply like this?

Surely if it's more dangerous to be vaccinated than unvaccinated, that's absolutely terrifying given billions have had it, and we've got active booster programmes running?

Wouldn't really be a laughing matter eh?

In Fairness @AKnitterofThings

Couch to 5km
5 a Day
The Sugar Tax
Plain Packaging for Cigarettes
MUP for alcohol in Scotland
Traffic Light Food Labelling
Ban on ads for healthy food during kids TV and on Trains
Ulez areas

This is not exhaustive or particularly up to date. Just what I could think of.

Though given the food bank crisis and the areas of the country that fall into food poverty, the government is hardly doing a great job on 'promoting' healthy eating.

Lol 😂 people actually believe this...

Yep in the UK about 42 million of them. Lol. 😉

42 million still alive even though the anti-vaxxers said we’d all be dead in a year.

Yup - and it's just a real moot point given that none of these programmes (or even more effective ones) would replace the need for vaccination

Lol 😂 people actually believe this...

Tbh. I'm quite " Lol. People actually still saying stuff like this"😂👌

They should believe it. There are many similar studies with the same results.

The impact of vaccination on COVID-19 outbreaks in the United States

Results:

Vaccination reduced the overall attack rate to 4.6% (95% CrI: 4.3% – 5.0%) from 9.0% (95% CrI: 8.4% – 9.4%) without vaccination, over 300 days. The highest relative reduction (54–62%) was observed among individuals aged 65 and older. Vaccination markedly reduced adverse outcomes, with non-ICU hospitalizations, ICU hospitalizations, and deaths decreasing by 63.5% (95% CrI: 60.3% – 66.7%), 65.6% (95% CrI: 62.2% – 68.6%), and 69.3% (95% CrI: 65.5% – 73.1%), respectively, across the same period.

Conclusions:

Our results indicate that vaccination can have a substantial impact on mitigating COVID-19 outbreaks, even with limited protection against infection. However, continued compliance with non-pharmaceutical interventions is essential to achieve this impact.

@MissConductUS , isn't that a modelling paper? I don't think it's an empirical study, showing what really happened in the real world (I may be wrong).

I do find it kind of interesting (as a vaxxed person, I might add) what counts as "evidence" and what as "misinformation" for the pro-vaxxers and anti-vaxxers respectively. The highest quality data (from randomised controlled trials) in existence in favour of the jabs is not great (and whistle blowers have identified flaws in the trials, too). For instance, in the 6 month Pfizer trials, all-cause mortality was actually higher in the vaxxed than unvaxxed group (low in both groups, as they were low risk participants). The most striking data being used to push the jabs was from uncontrolled, naturalistic sources (e.g., about current hospital admissions). However, when uncontrolled, naturalistic data were used to say "the jabs aren't working very well" - for example when ONS data showed higher infection rates in the jabbed than unjabbed - this was deemed "misinformation" or untrustworthy, because it wasn't from an RCT. Similarly, all but the highest quality evidence was dismissed in meta-analyses of Ivermectin. But far lower quality data was accepted for the newer drugs (and the jabs). I don't have an axe to grind (I hope the jabs do work, including for personal reasons), but I couldn't help noticing this (because of some of my work training, probably).

Anti Vaxxer here I’m afraid, haven’t had one and never will. Never had covid, and the LFT doesn’t test for covid and it’s all a hoax.

I said it would go away and it is slowly disappearing from the news. Someone somewhere has made a lot of money from this and it isn’t the taxpayer.

And before I get berated by those who lost loved ones I am sorry but how do you know it was covid and not the flu, another respiratory disease that kills thousands each year.

A FOI was put in and the deaths of people under 65 over 18 months were in the hundreds! 😮 more men under 45 commit suicide I think it’s nearly 10,000

Take a look at the facts of covid was such a problem how come the poor countries in Asia and Africa haven’t had millions of deaths as they had no vaccine

anyway just my two pennies worth