People with covid now - how much are you isolating?

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Now the guidance has changed and there is no legal requirement to isolate, what are you doing?

We tested positive a week ago and had mild symptoms, fully isolated for 5 days and are going about our normal business now though we are still testing positive, though trying to avoid close contact and indoor spaces and wearing masks everywhere.

We went out for dog walks and to the park when it was deserted for the kids to play, but didn’t go indoors with other people until we tested neg/day 10. We’ve been so intensely conditioned I think I would feel extremely weird (not in a good way!) being covid positive in indoor spaces with other people... but maybe in a couple of months that will be completely normal (or as normal as being out and about with tail end of any other illness).

"How much have the mumsnet crowd been stock piling LFTs?! 😂 meanwhile, the rest of the UK have zero access to testing anymore 🙈"

My employer requires me to test for my job. My employer provides the tests.

Some people don't get sick pay so they could end up in a difficult situation financially were they to isolate. Bills are going up, many people are already struggling, if you don't get sick pay then of course you're going to work if you can. People will be putting their families over a stranger.

It's over a stranger's life so not a trivial matter. It is selfish to risk the health of others, no other word for it. Of course there should be financial support but even without it, it isn't too much to expect people to do the decent thing. Plus we will never get back to any kind of real normality while people are prepared to wander about spreading Covid as they go. Hospitals are already turning routine ops away. Those people matter as well.

I tested positive 11 days ago on Saturday. I haven't isolated but I've not made an effort to be where people are either. I've distanced myself during school drop off and pick up.
I've isolated enough in the past (2 kids having it twice each) and my mental health has to take priority as I had a mental breakdown due to it all last year. Call me selfish if you like.

I wore a mask indoors even though there's no need to wear one and I've also told people who have come over to speak to me and given them the option to continue the conversation or not.
Not one person gave a toss that I had Covid.
I've now tested negative twice over the last couple of days.

My mum has covid for the first time and hasn't been out. But she no longer works so doesn't have to worry about not being paid or having an arsed boss insisting she come in

She is cev as is my terminally ill grandad who is in hospital and also now has covid, probably where mum caught it as his whole ward is down with it and it's the only place she'd been

Obviously trying to protect my mum and grandad has been our priority as a family over the last couple of years but we don't expect it to be everyone else's!

I have about 4 boxes and my mum has around the same as we still need to test when we can finally go to visit my grandad in hospital. Also if he makes it out of there and into a nursing home.

You can moralise all you like about it, but it makes nary a shit of difference to the fact that some people need their incomes, and that we can either have full sick pay across the board in those circumstances or we get a society where some people with covid have no choice but to work. And the people who are in this position regard your opinion with about the same level of interest as you do their welfare.

Everybody has a choice to do the right thing or put others at risk. It's sad that you think so many are prepared to think only of themselves.

@AndAsIfByMagic

Some people don't get sick pay so they could end up in a difficult situation financially were they to isolate. Bills are going up, many people are already struggling, if you don't get sick pay then of course you're going to work if you can. People will be putting their families over a stranger.

It's over a stranger's life so not a trivial matter. It is selfish to risk the health of others, no other word for it. Of course there should be financial support but even without it, it isn't too much to expect people to do the decent thing. Plus we will never get back to any kind of real normality while people are prepared to wander about spreading Covid as they go. Hospitals are already turning routine ops away. Those people matter as well.

Are you volunteering to pay their bills? You are being ridiculous. People will not care about Joe Blogs when their child is starving and homeless. That matters more.

Of course there should be financial support but even without it, it isn't too much to expect people to do the decent thing.

When was the last time you let your children go hungry or risked not being able to pay bills for the benefit of people you've never met?

There is still recommended isolation for 5 days with a pos test. Personally I'm not testing unless I absolutely have to and just carrying on and resting for the days I'm actually poorly.

If you don't test, you don't need to isolate either.

It's over a stranger's life

Thousands of children in the developing world die due to lack of access to basic medicines that could be funded by well off people in the west. Given that this has not been a major priority for many comfortable people in the U.K., it's a little rich for these people to expect others to put themselves in debt and danger for them.

@AndAsIfByMagic

Some people don't get sick pay so they could end up in a difficult situation financially were they to isolate. Bills are going up, many people are already struggling, if you don't get sick pay then of course you're going to work if you can. People will be putting their families over a stranger.

It's over a stranger's life so not a trivial matter. It is selfish to risk the health of others, no other word for it. Of course there should be financial support but even without it, it isn't too much to expect people to do the decent thing. Plus we will never get back to any kind of real normality while people are prepared to wander about spreading Covid as they go. Hospitals are already turning routine ops away. Those people matter as well.

Yes but also people need to be able to pay their bills to keep a roof over the heads and food in their stomach. Are you happy for people to potentially have to go without food to pay other bills if they don't get sick pay? Why are their lives any less than a strangers? Everyone needs to mitigate risks for themselves now and do what is best for them and their families.

We still have to isolate here.

DD has it at the moment and is feeling pretty horrendous - she’s a paediatric nurse on a complex care ward so I imagine most of you wouldn’t want her infecting your child if you were one of the parents. She’s staying in her room to minimise the risk of infecting the rest of us. Seems like common sense to me - you wouldn’t go out and about with a raging D&V bug.

I’m on day 8, feel unwell although not as awful as last week when I basically slept constantly. Lateral flow is still a strong positive. I’ve stayed home but haven’t felt well enough to go anywhere and have a dh who is doing school runs as he’s avoided catching it somehow. Dd1 isolated four 5 days rather than 3 but was still feeling unwell during that.

I worry employers will use the 5 day thing to force staff back when they haven’t recovered (I say while logging on to a teams meeting from home).

@AndAsIfByMagic

You can moralise all you like about it, but it makes nary a shit of difference to the fact that some people need their incomes, and that we can either have full sick pay across the board in those circumstances or we get a society where some people with covid have no choice but to work. And the people who are in this position regard your opinion with about the same level of interest as you do their welfare.

Everybody has a choice to do the right thing or put others at risk. It's sad that you think so many are prepared to think only of themselves.

It's funny that you're this out of touch. Speaking of thinking about others though, perhaps you might undertake to cover the bills for some covid positive people who don't get sick pay and who you're so keen to moralise at? It would be your chance to do the right thing.

People will not care about Joe Blogs when their child is starving and homeless. That matters more.

Totally. My child's life is more important to me than a strangers. I am responsible for him, not everyone else. Luckily I can stay at home when sick and WFH, but I don't judge those that don't and can't.

Other than those who get their tests paid for, or those who need to test because of being close to people who are extremely vulnerable - on what basis are people actually testing?

I'm feeling absolutely fine. No symptoms at all, Covid or otherwise. I'm fully vaccinated - 4 shots. I've only ever tested when required for travel, or when visiting people who requested it.

At least 2-3 times a day I get notified that I've been in close contact with someone who has tested positive for Covid. Most people I know don't have the app, so don't get notifications and wouldn't know about potential exposures.

Are you volunteering to pay their bills?

No - there should be SSP.

You are being ridiculous.

No. I'm taking the moral point of view, rather then the selfish one. It's sad when doing the right thing is seen as ridiculous by some.

People will not care about Joe Blogs when their child is starving and homeless. That matters more.

No child would be starving - there are foodbanks if necessary. People's lives matter more, it's really sad that you can't see that.

@AndAsIfByMagic

Are you volunteering to pay their bills?

No - there should be SSP.

You are being ridiculous.

No. I'm taking the moral point of view, rather then the selfish one. It's sad when doing the right thing is seen as ridiculous by some.

People will not care about Joe Blogs when their child is starving and homeless. That matters more.

No child would be starving - there are foodbanks if necessary. People's lives matter more, it's really sad that you can't see that.

There is SSP, and it's fuck all. You're very out of touch. If by SSP you actually mean there should be proper sick pay to allow ill people to isolate, that's correct, but meanwhile there isn't, and nobody is going to be paying their bills with your reckons.

No - there should be SSP.

But there isn't.

And you clearly don't give a flying about these people's situations so long as they prioritise your needs above your own. Something you've never shown any indication of doing for them.

Nice

It’ll be the same people who send their dc to school after they’ve been sick in the night.

People's lives matter more

Again, I wonder what sacrifices you and your family have made for other people's lives?

I'm isolating along the old rules - our employer is still providing private testing for everyone as a benefit for our families. I'm CV and been rather poorly so had no choice anyway.

I'm on day 6. Very minor symptoms, sore throat. I've been to the supermarket twice in a mask and done a school drop off and pick up. No close contact with anyone other than family members.
My husband is on day 11, hasn't tested neg yet but did a school run today. One child hasn't caught it at all as far as we are aware. Other one unwell over weekend but didnt test positive so has gone back to Nursery today.

Ssp is crap and doesn't start straight away

Food banks aren't going to pay people's rent and bills or save them from losing their job if their boss wants them in