DS tested positive - can we travel to Majorca?

[Siezethefish]

DS has tested positive with a PCR - we are in Wales where they still do them. He has symptoms but was testing negative (and still is) with LFTs. He has been double jabbed so meets the entry requirements.

We are due to fly to Majorca on Friday.

To travel to Spain you have to fill in a questionnaire and state that if you have symptoms you will self isolate for a week

The Mirror is saying that the self isolation requirement has been removed

Can anyone advise on whether he can
a) travel
b) must self isolate?

thanks in advance!

It says it needs to be 11 days since positive PCR test.

“If you’ve had COVID-19 in the past year
If you’re travelling to Spain for tourism purposes, are not fully vaccinated but have recovered from prior COVID-19 infection in the last 6 months, you can use the UK proof of COVID-19 recovery record or a recovery certificate issued by a relevant health authority or medical service to certify your COVID-19 status.

At least 11 days must have passed since your first positive COVID-19 nucleic acid amplification test - NAAT (PCR or similar) or rapid antigen test. The recovery record or certificate will be valid for 180 days from the date of the positive test and must include the following information:”
www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain/entry-requirements#if-youve-had-covid-19-in-the-past-year

You may also be subject to additional checks at the point of entry including a temperature check, visual health assessment, or testing on arrival. Passengers may also be contacted and required to undertake a COVID-19 nucleic acid amplification test - NAAT (PCR or similar) at any point up to 48 hours after their arrival in Spain. More information can be found on the Spanish government’s Border Health Controls webpage
www.sanidad.gob.es/en/profesionales/saludPublica/sanidadExterior/ControlHS.htm

Doesn’t he legally still have to isolate for 5 days in Wales or is that guidance? Either way you can’t really be serious about going on a plane with other.

gov.wales/self-isolation#section-86588

It doesn’t say if it’s guidance but it doesn’t suggest it’s optional.

If he has symptoms then morally you should not.

Also, in my opinion, it is really selfish. You risk ruining other peoples trips.

Are you seriously considering taking a covid positive person on a plane?

The public health advice is to isolate still, even though it’s not a “legal” requirement. would you go on a plane or mix with D+V or chickenpox?

Even in England the advice is currently to isolate if you knowingly have covid, even if it's not the law.

If you know that he has covid then no, he shouldn't be getting on a plane in two days time. I don't know if it's a legal requirement still in Wales, but it's definitely not advised.

You want to fly with someone with covid? Surely I've misunderstood?

[quote Wouldntitbenicetobeinyourshoes]It says it needs to be 11 days since positive PCR test.

“If you’ve had COVID-19 in the past year
If you’re travelling to Spain for tourism purposes, are not fully vaccinated but have recovered from prior COVID-19 infection in the last 6 months, you can use the UK proof of COVID-19 recovery record or a recovery certificate issued by a relevant health authority or medical service to certify your COVID-19 status.

At least 11 days must have passed since your first positive COVID-19 nucleic acid amplification test - NAAT (PCR or similar) or rapid antigen test. The recovery record or certificate will be valid for 180 days from the date of the positive test and must include the following information:”
www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain/entry-requirements#if-youve-had-covid-19-in-the-past-year

You may also be subject to additional checks at the point of entry including a temperature check, visual health assessment, or testing on arrival. Passengers may also be contacted and required to undertake a COVID-19 nucleic acid amplification test - NAAT (PCR or similar) at any point up to 48 hours after their arrival in Spain. More information can be found on the Spanish government’s Border Health Controls webpage
www.sanidad.gob.es/en/profesionales/saludPublica/sanidadExterior/ControlHS.htm[/quote]
thanks for replying wouldntitbenice..

I read that as if you have had covid but not been fully vaccinated then at least 11 days must have passed since a +ve test. I saw them as linked but can see now they are distinct.

We are insured so main concern was whether insurance would wriggle out of paying out if we cant travel due to a positive test.

You aren’t really considering taking a Covid positive person on a plane full of others, are you?

@Siezethefish

DS has tested positive with a PCR - we are in Wales where they still do them. He has symptoms but was testing negative (and still is) with LFTs. He has been double jabbed so meets the entry requirements.

We are due to fly to Majorca on Friday.

To travel to Spain you have to fill in a questionnaire and state that if you have symptoms you will self isolate for a week

The Mirror is saying that the self isolation requirement has been removed

Can anyone advise on whether he can
a) travel
b) must self isolate?

thanks in advance!

Personally if his symptoms by then were pretty mild I would go because Covid is everywhere. There will be other people with Covid on the plane given how many people have it currently. They might not be testing but it will be on there.

I'm not sure about the legalities but in all conscience would you really take him in a plane where he's going to be in close contact with others?!
I know this variant is supposed to be mild but myself and my work colleagues were all wiped out with fatigue when we had it. It certainly would have ruined a holiday!

Most airlines will have a free date/flight change option if one of the party are covid positive. Depending on your travel insurance you may be eligible through them too, though the airlines should be able to sort this for you first,

Almost every flight/holiday company and airport have notices on them
Or websites to say that you should not travel if you are covid positive or are displaying covid symptoms.

Check the locator form for Spain too. Many countries ask that you tick that you have not had or had symptoms of covid for the past x days. Some ask that you haven't been in close contact with covid for x days.

Many countries are still subject to covid checks at the airport on arrival - not everyone, but random passengers or any that appear to be displaying symptoms. A couple of passengers sat near me on my last flight were taken for random testing in February, when we landed.

@Duracellbunnywannabe

gov.wales/self-isolation#section-86588

It doesn’t say if it’s guidance but it doesn’t suggest it’s optional.

It's a 'should' not a 'must' so I read it as guidance. DS says that there is no requirement to be off if he has covid, Not very helpful wording in the guidance!

According to newspapers reports, Spain is allowing people who have tested positive to travel there with mild / no symptoms. which contradicts the link provided by Wouldntitbenicetobeinyourshoes. It is very unclear!

Covid is endemic and seen by those who have made the decision to remove all restrictions as not much different to a cold / flu. I would go on a plane with a cold, and without any testing, how will anyone know from now whether its a cold or Covid?

I truly hope you’re not considering ruining everyone else’s trip with your selfish actions.

Why do the PCR in the first place?

I despair that you would even consider it.
However if you travel and others in the family get it you will have to isolate on holiday.
As will potentially 100s of others that you have infected, some of whom may be very ill.

Aye of course you can, take him on the plan, then all the people who were sat around you will get ill two to three days into their holiday. Its fine. Ffs

*plane

We were 99% certain we had Covid before we flew home last week. Day after we arrived, tested and confirmed.

No way was I going to pay to self isolate abroad so we were getting on that plane come what may

Of course there is a reasonable chance that if you get on a flight, there may well be a Covid positive person on it too. But the assumption here is that the person in question doesn’t know it as they have not yet tested positive.

To knowingly get on a plane with a Covid positive child is absolutely ridiculous, selfish and irresponsible.

You are entitled to feel disappointed. I would be. But please don’t take this chance.

My friend and her son are covid positive. They are due to fly abroad tomorrow... planning on still going apparently. They are going to isolate in the hotel 'for a couple of days' seems like everyone is giving no flying duck! Shame about the people on the plane.. at the airport.. in the taxi transfer... can't quite believe it but seems to be what so many people are doing now.

Why test if you would then go on a flight anyway 🤣

Im pretty relaxed about the fact that we need to learn to live with covid but I can't believe you're considering travelling on a plane on Friday if he's just tested positive with a PCR. You can try and justify it all you like but it would be a shitty thing to do.