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On course for another lockdown?

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TalkToTheHand123 · 19/03/2022 07:07

Covis cases on a rapid rise, heading towards 100,000 daily cases. Are we heading for another lockdown?

OP posts:
MrPickles73 · 21/03/2022 12:16

R u nuts?

TheWomandestroyed · 21/03/2022 12:17

@Hologrammer

Does anyone even still care/test?!

To be perfectly honest I haven't even thought about Covid for about a month now until I just popped on here today.

Yes people do still care, a friend of mine has covid at the moment, I honestly thought he was going to die last week, yes he is older but normally as fit as a fiddle. Seeing the state he was in really frightened me.
SexyLittleNosferatu · 21/03/2022 12:23

I had to check the date on this thread.

I am amazed that people are still casually throwing around the term lockdown.

TypicaIMe · 21/03/2022 12:32

@Hologrammer

Does anyone even still care/test?!

To be perfectly honest I haven't even thought about Covid for about a month now until I just popped on here today.

I test at least twice a week. I'm CEV and need to make sure I'm negative before inject my weekly immunosuppressant drugs. I currently have covid and thankfully knew I had it before taking my medication last week, otherwise things could have been a lot nastier (and they're pretty crappy anyway).
implantreplace · 21/03/2022 12:55

@TypicaIMe

Twice weekly? How much are you spending on tests?

justasking111 · 21/03/2022 12:58

Having had grandchildren all week I had to test on Saturday at the hospital because I have surgery tomorrow. I was bricking it because if it was positive the health board would have banned me for 90 days. Which is nuts. My PCR was negative thank god

Runnerduck34 · 21/03/2022 13:11

I don't think we will have another lock down, government can't afford it and although infection rates are high thankfully death rates are low.
They may bring back some restrictions though if death rates increase.
But tbf soon we won't know if we have covid or not as it will be harder to get a test!
Our family down to our last box,used 3 teste on me and dc last week as felt unwell but all negative,I was still feeling ropey at weekend so used my last test to recheck and it was positive, I suspect infection rates are even higher than reported but the thing that really matters is death rates not infection rates, I think vaccines definitely make covid less severe.

HardyBuckette · 21/03/2022 13:33

@SexyLittleNosferatu

I had to check the date on this thread.

I am amazed that people are still casually throwing around the term lockdown.

I think the psychological impact of spending the better part of two years in a situation where lockdowns could theoretically be called at near enough any time means some people are going to take longer to get past it than the few months we've had. Myself I never thought there'd be another lockdown due to Omicron, but you only have to go back as far as December for there to be a situation where people didn't know how restrictions were going to look and where some degree of panic about one was reasonably common.
Cornettoninja · 21/03/2022 14:27

[quote implantreplace]@TypicaIMe

Twice weekly? How much are you spending on tests?[/quote]
Why would they be paying for tests? LFT’s are free till the end of the month and if they’re on immunosuppressive medication it’s quite likely they’ll continue to be provided with them I would’ve thought.

but you only have to go back as far as December for there to be a situation where people didn't know how restrictions were going to look and where some degree of panic about one was reasonably common

@HardyBuckette I don’t think I agree ‘panic’ is the right word. Concern definitely. Omicron was still very much an unknown in December and those fears were pretty much quelled by the new year with more robust data available.

HardyBuckette · 21/03/2022 14:32

I'm referring to panic about the prospect of a lockdown rather than about the Omicron variant itself. There are people who were very worried that another lockdown would happen and were upset and anxious about it.

Lilaclavenders · 21/03/2022 14:53

The death rate is still very low.

Why would we need to impose a (very costly) lockdown??

TypicaIMe · 21/03/2022 14:56

[quote implantreplace]@TypicaIMe

Twice weekly? How much are you spending on tests?[/quote]
I use free LFTs, like everyone else.

Because I'm CEV I will continue to have access to free testing going forward.

rhizobium · 21/03/2022 15:02

@Lilaclavenders

The death rate is still very low.

Why would we need to impose a (very costly) lockdown??

We don't need a lockdown, and there are many other measures that could be considered to suppress transmission.

However, it's not just about deaths, it's the about the impact of having so many people ill at any one time.

You have a huge proportion too sick to work - things like education, healthcare and supply chains break down. You have a huge proportion requiring hospital care - you don't have beds for non-COVID emergencies which causes deaths due to other factors, and routine care starts to suffer.

These are the kinds of things that need to be considered when case rates start rising exponentially.

rhizobium · 21/03/2022 15:04

[quote implantreplace]@TypicaIMe

Twice weekly? How much are you spending on tests?[/quote]
Tests are free? And I believe that CEV people will continue to recieve free tests?

Given the the PP has explained they need a negative test before taking a certain type of medication (for example, for some immunosuppresive medications it would be incredibly dangerous to inject whilst COVID +), it would hardly be an overreaction if they were forced into spending huge amounts on tests, given the alternative @implantreplace

Lilaclavenders · 21/03/2022 15:19

We don't need a lockdown, and there are many other measures that could be considered to suppress transmission.

Given how very transmissible this covid variant seems to be, it is doubtful how effective any measures really are, short of a full lockdown?

Perhaps it's better to just 'bear' the wave and build up herd immunity.

rhizobium · 21/03/2022 15:22

@Lilaclavenders

We don't need a lockdown, and there are many other measures that could be considered to suppress transmission.

Given how very transmissible this covid variant seems to be, it is doubtful how effective any measures really are, short of a full lockdown?

Perhaps it's better to just 'bear' the wave and build up herd immunity.

I didn't say other measures were needed either @Lilaclavenders

I'm just pointing out that your metric of assessing whether measures are needed (deaths), is not what is most important when considering coronavirus - it is about how many people are ill at any one time, and the downstream impact of this.

m1shap3 · 21/03/2022 15:26

No

mintfuschia · 21/03/2022 15:26

@justasking111

Having had grandchildren all week I had to test on Saturday at the hospital because I have surgery tomorrow. I was bricking it because if it was positive the health board would have banned me for 90 days. Which is nuts. My PCR was negative thank god
Having covid makes some types of surgery much much more dangerous for the patient. They won't do it until at least 7 weeks after an infection for that reason. That test was protecting you too.
RockaLock · 21/03/2022 15:30

mintfuschia, I think that very much depends on the nature of the surgery, though.

My DM had covid over Christmas but was operated on for breast cancer 4 weeks later.

mintfuschia · 21/03/2022 15:30

@Lilaclavenders

We don't need a lockdown, and there are many other measures that could be considered to suppress transmission.

Given how very transmissible this covid variant seems to be, it is doubtful how effective any measures really are, short of a full lockdown?

Perhaps it's better to just 'bear' the wave and build up herd immunity.

People are getting ill with covid over and over again (although at least fewer need hospital care thanks to the vaccines). Herd immunity is a fantasy.

I don't want a lockdown, but letting it rip is still not the answer.

mintfuschia · 21/03/2022 15:32

@RockaLock

mintfuschia, I think that very much depends on the nature of the surgery, though.

My DM had covid over Christmas but was operated on for breast cancer 4 weeks later.

For emergency surgery of any kind I guess you just have to suck up the extra risk due to covid, which doesn't mean it's not still there.
CanIHaveASnaaaaak · 21/03/2022 15:50

As PPs have said, although cases are very high, hospital numbers are down, as are Covid deaths.

At most, they’ll bring back masks for indoor spaces.
I don’t see them even doing that though.

MarshaBradyo · 21/03/2022 15:52

I don’t see any changes in that direction either

Soon testing won’t be free which will impact what we hear about and public mood again.

Excess deaths were down in winter, not sure where they are now but it’ll be part of overall deaths that are not higher than five year average

Lilaclavenders · 21/03/2022 16:27

People are getting ill with covid over and over again (although at least fewer need hospital care thanks to the vaccines). Herd immunity is a fantasy.

We are at least moving toward “herd resistance,” where infections will continue, but people have enough protection that (from vaccination and/or infection) that future waves won't be as disruptive.

ponkydonkey · 21/03/2022 18:17

Not a chance