On course for another lockdown?

[TalkToTheHand123]

Covis cases on a rapid rise, heading towards 100,000 daily cases. Are we heading for another lockdown?

@carefullycourageous it was a mild cold for me so I'm not really bothered about catching it again. I hate wearing masks, especially on public transport in hot weather, it's awful. I did wear them when it was law but I'm not if I'm not legally required to.

@carefullycourageous what do you mean, people 'want' to catch it?!

I’ve noticed mask wearing has dropped a lot recently in my area

DD’s primary school have said that tests won’t be required due to having to buy them but that coughs, temperatures and loss of small and taste will all require five days off school as standard in the absence of a negative covid test

Until OFSTED catch up with them and slap them with RI for attendance.

@Teateaandmoretea

DD’s primary school have said that tests won’t be required due to having to buy them but that coughs, temperatures and loss of small and taste will all require five days off school as standard in the absence of a negative covid test

Until OFSTED catch up with them and slap them with RI for attendance.

Yeah, that one's not going to last.

Went in to London yesterday and barely anyone was wearing them in the tubes anymore. But sure what the advice is now but a huge change from a month to so ago.

Why do people want to catch it? It makes no sense to me.

I don't think anyone WANTS to catch it. But most people have had it very mildly so don't mind catching it again, if it means they can live freely!

@Lilaclavenders

*This is inadequate, the threshold of 75+ is too high. *First, that's probably just a start

Second, how many younger healthy adults would actually WANT a fourth jab??

At 40, under current circumstances I'm not prepared to have another jab. I'm fed up of feeling more ill from the prevention than the actual illness. I had Covid at Christmas and probably again a couple of weeks ago (DS2 had it, and I wasn't going anywhere while looking after him so no point in repeatedly testing my cold, and I haven't picked it up from DH since)

My immune system's been primed by the first 3 jabs. It's coped with at least one dose of virus. It will continue to be exposed in the community like it does with colds and flu. It's not novel to my immune system anymore.

Covid hasn't had me ill in bed. Vaccines have. So unless there's a significant change in the relationship between virus and vaccines, I'm in no rush to roll my sleeve up again.

[quote TypicaIMe]@carefullycourageous what do you mean, people 'want' to catch it?![/quote]
Well there are loads of people who won't wear a mask, they would rather catch it than do that.

I've had it once and was fine, but personally don't want to roll the COVID dice repeatedly.

@Lilaclavenders

Why do people want to catch it? It makes no sense to me.

I don't think anyone WANTS to catch it. But most people have had it very mildly so don't mind catching it again, if it means they can live freely!

Yes, but this makes no sense, the fact you've had it once mildly is not much use when each variant is different.

Omicron for example is less damaging to lungs and more likely to damage blood and cause strokes, so affects a different subset of people.

@carefullycourageous we've been repeatedly told that masks are to protect others, not ourselves. DD wore a mask religiously (she's a teacher) but she still caught it.

Nobody wants to catch covid.

[quote TypicaIMe]@carefullycourageous we've been repeatedly told that masks are to protect others, not ourselves. DD wore a mask religiously (she's a teacher) but she still caught it.

Nobody wants to catch covid.[/quote]
If no one wants to catch COVID, the national actions are irrational. We are voluntarily increasing our risks of catching COVID.

FFP2 masks do limit risk to the wearer.

The fact your daughter caught is one tiny piece of anecdata.

@DobbyTheHouseElk

Some posters would love a lockdown 🤣

No, it won’t happen. Find another hobby.

😂😂😂😂 love this

No one wants to catch any virus but life has gone on. I'd rather catch the odd virus than have a life limited where I can't see people smile

@Lilaclavenders

Why do people want to catch it? It makes no sense to me.

I don't think anyone WANTS to catch it. But most people have had it very mildly so don't mind catching it again, if it means they can live freely!

Why would catching i again mean they can live freely?

Thankful I haven’t had it at all - and I live very freely!! I actually can’t think of a single restriction being imposed on me by the government due to covid

Oh there’s one. Going on holiday next week to a country that doesn’t require any testing. So the sum total of additional burden? I have to flash my vaccine status at either end

Is it Christmas again?

No, can't see the majority of people sticking to it if they did

I've had 3 vaccines and covid twice now. I'm not prepared to do another lockdown ever again

@carefullycourageous

A tiny minority of people wear/wore FFP2 masks. Are you saying that everyone who didn't actively wanted to catch covid?

I'm sure you'll the millions of people who wore masks but caught Covid anyway are also 'anecdata' you'll cheerfully dismiss. I'm currently on my fifth round of Covid despite mask wearing and being very careful, as I'm CEV.

What's worrying about attitudes like yours is that after two years it shows that some people are still placing blame on others for catching a virus.

No I don't think there will be a lockdown again unless a new strain appears at some point which is more dangerous.

I know people who are pretty sure they have covid but aren't testing as it's in effec no worse than a cold for them. They dont want the missed education or time off work. I think this is happening alot.

If no one wants to catch COVID, the national actions are irrational. We are voluntarily increasing our risks of catching COVID.

Don’t be so silly.

No one wants to catch a bad cold, flu or norovirus either. We don’t have national restrictions to prevent it.

The last 2 years has removed rationality from a minority of the population it seems.

@implantreplace we don't all live in England. I'm in Wales

China have announced another lockdown. On the news last night.

[quote GiveMeNovocain]@implantreplace we don't all live in England. I'm in Wales[/quote]
What does that mean in terms of m question re the value of getting covid a second time in order to live freely?

Don't know why I clicked on this thread. I'm so over it, it's like flipping ground hog day!

@BluebellsGreenbells

China have announced another lockdown. On the news last night.

Yes, they had their first deaths in over a year.

www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/19/with-37-million-in-lockdown-and-covid-plans-under-fire-chinese-ask-what-comes-next

Worryingly, they say that the virus in this outbreak is 95% mild.

This could mean two things

• that is the disease pattern from omicron when a large proportion of the population is unvaccinated
• it is not omicron.

Neither of those is great for a country such as ours where people are 'fed up' and might not get autumn booster jabs (or jabs might not be available to all), because if the hospitalisation rate goes up from its current comfortably under 2% to around 5%, then NHS strain becomes worrying again. And if new variant, who knows?

China have a very poor vaccination level in the elderly and very little natural immunity (and the Sinovac vaccine probably isn't as effective either). The fatality rate in Hong Kong from the latest outbreak looks like ours did two years ago, so the levels of infection we have at the moment would be disastrous for them.