U-turn on mandatory Covid vaccinations for NHS and social care workers

[WineGetsMeThroughIt]

Apparently this will be announced tomorrow. Thank god there's some sense coming back into this world

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/30/front-line-health-staff-no-longer-need-covid-vaccines/

Finally some good news

This was always going to happen. The same way they did with the university mandate last year.

It did the job, scared some into getting a vaccine they didn't want.

It’s too late for some of our staff. They have already handed in their notice and have new jobs. Great if they announce it but too blooming late. Arrrggghhhhh

That is a shame.

Good. I really hoped this would happen. I hope those who have already left their jobs over this have found alternative employment already.

Hallelujah i am so happy. Sad for those already jabbed who didn't want it though....

you just have to look at how this tyranny is about to crumble as the world is finally waking up ... amazing to see what's going on in every corner of the globe these last few days, e.g. Canada Trucker Freedom Convoy, freedom marches in Paris, Brussels, London, the Czech Republic challenging central Europe’s vaccine and lockdown measures. It's liberating to see people finally coming to their senses.

I am sorry if medical and care staff don't get vaccinated. I would not want to be treated by an anti vaxer.

@caringcarer

I am sorry if medical and care staff don't get vaccinated. I would not want to be treated by an anti vaxer.

Good luck with that. How exactly will you know?

Too late unfortunately. Some of our staff have already found new jobs and handed in their notice!

@caringcarer

I am sorry if medical and care staff don't get vaccinated. I would not want to be treated by an anti vaxer.

So if you're waiting for a delayed cancer treatment you'd rather risk it getting worse and potentially dying, than having someone who fought for their right to chose what they put into their own body treat you?

How would you feel if they refused to test you based on your negative close minded attitude? I'm pretty sure that most unvaccinated people would be happy to continue doing daily LFT's to keep their patients safe. A negative LFT is far more accurate than an untested vaccinated person who could still be passing it on 🤦🏼‍♀️

@caringcarer
Very much doubt they are anti vaxers. Probably have all their vaxs except something brought in under emergency use only rules with no long term data and several short term document ‘ admitted side effects by then sometimes causing death / severe short and long term effects vac. From companies you can wiki easily with huge payouts for bad side effects. Wake up!

It's a shame it's too late for many. I'm pro choice and believe it to be a personal decision. I have chosen to be vaccinated but wouldn't refuse treatment from someone unvaccinated, that would just be cutting off my nose to spite my face.

Can I just point out that, "those who have already left their jobs" may not be strictly accurate. My friend, who has declined Covid vaccinations was dismissed from her job as a care worker in a residential care home for the elderly, for failing to fulfil employment requirements.

Anyone else tired of the latest government policy being announced by the telegraph instead of in the Housenof Parliament?

It’s almost as if the PM wants journalists to owe him favours 🤔

Excellent news. What a stupid policy it was to begin with. I can't imagine how they thought it would work.

Let the law suits begin.

Good. They should get vaccinated but forcing them is wrong given there's no meaningful compensation if anything goes wrong (wildly unlikely though that is)

I am SO happy. Was going to lose a great team member who was not anti vax, had had Covid twice and felt she was low risk of getting poorly and had followed all the science. It was unbelievable her job was on the line having caught it twice in the line of duty. She had been so stressed about losing her job she had been in years most days. I have just texted her and she will await official announcement before getting too excited but is furious at the trauma so many have been put through. Thank you Boris for being brave enough to u turn on this.

@caringcarer

I am sorry if medical and care staff don't get vaccinated. I would not want to be treated by an anti vaxer.

You'll be lucky to get any treatment from anyone at all at the rate we're going.

I am awake. Without vaccines death figures would have been souch higher.

@caringcarer

I am awake. Without vaccines death figures would have been souch higher.

It's mainly the older generation that have been helped with the vaccines. The vast majority of working people would have been fine without the jabs (they were only originally supposed to be for just for elderly and vulnerable not everyone).

@caringcarer

I am awake. Without vaccines death figures would have been souch higher.

Indeed yes. But if the purpose of mandatory vaccination is to reduce deaths, then the people who should be targetted are the elderly and the Clinically Extremely Vulnerable, who are most likely to die.

Whilst some NHS workers fall into that category, most do not. Many are young, healthy, and at relatively low personal risk of serious illness with covid. I still think they'd be better off vaccinated (I'm enthusiastically triple jabbed) but if the argument is we're mandating vaccination for individual protection, reducing mortality, and cutting the burden on the NHS, then we're targetting the wrong groups.

If we want it to protect patients, that's a different argument. If the vaccine gave sterilising immunity, it would be a robust one. But, certainly against Omicron, it doesn't.

So the policy seems to be there mostly because politicians think it will be popular. And, now public opinion has shifted, it looks like the policy is shifting to match.

Absolutely fantastic news. Bodily autonomy wins.

Incompetent government in shambles shock.

Nothing new about that.

Thanks for posting this link @WineGetsMeThroughIt I am HR and sadly have been advising on the likely dismissals for this. Personally it sits very uncomfortably for me so a U turn will be a good thing on many levels.