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No isolation when covid positive in March

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Whathefisgoingon · 30/01/2022 18:19

I just cannot get my head around this.

As far as I know, no other country has announced this.

For two years they’ve told us that it’s dangerous and now they’re prepared to send me to work directly next to someone infected with covid?

I had always believed it should be more socially acceptable to simply stay home when sick, as too many feel forced in to work with flu etc, but this takes the biscuit.

I understand we need to find a way to get back to some kind of normal but this seems extreme.

Will this really happen in less than 2 months!?

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blackcurrantjam · 02/02/2022 17:37

Good.

treeflowercat · 02/02/2022 17:57

@Rosscameasdoody

I am still wearing masks in shops mainly as I don't want to make those who are CEV more anxious they already are.

However, not only is masks wearing unrealistic and unsustainable long term, the impact of another person wearing a cloth, or even surgical, masks is marginal compared to the impact of you wearing a FFP2, or preferably a FFP3, mask to protect yourself... and this should be the emphasis moving forward rather than the now outdated concept that protecting each other from our respiratory droplets with our cloth masks.

Sparklingbrook · 02/02/2022 18:24

As I said before @Rosscameasdoody I know all about it believe me. It’s been a really tough couple of years.

vbnm89 · 02/02/2022 18:55

I work in a school so I have to test twice weekly but friends in family in other professions don't test because they can't actually afford to have time off work because they will not be paid. We had 6 teachers/TA's off last week only one of these was ill so any other profession they would have been at work as normal.

JellyOnAPlatewithicecream · 02/02/2022 19:42

We have an effective vaccine, and the newer strains are much less harmful. Why is it hard to get your head around the fact we are in a totally different situation now than we have been in the past two years?

Tealightsandd · 02/02/2022 19:57

534 dead in just one day from the 'less harmful' strain.

Many more left disabled.

Simple and easy infection control measures like masks, vaccines, and good ventilation, are what genuinely enable us to 'live with' (including opening up society and keeping the economy running) a still new and evolving disease that kills and disables many.

It's not only a moral issue. The fact of Long Covid, leaving a significant proportion of the working age population disabled, means there will be longer term health and economic implications of the removal of all mitigations (not restrictions).

BuickMcKane · 02/02/2022 20:09

Oh I wondered when you'd turn up to trot out the same old comment, Tea. It's done with. And not before time.

And those are deaths within 28 days of a positive test. Not deaths FROM covid, deaths WITH covid.

If I register a positive test tomorrow and get run over by a truck this weekend, I'll be part of that number too. How is that so difficult to grasp?

Waxonwaxoff0 · 02/02/2022 20:11

@Tealightsandd

534 dead in just one day from the 'less harmful' strain.

Many more left disabled.

Simple and easy infection control measures like masks, vaccines, and good ventilation, are what genuinely enable us to 'live with' (including opening up society and keeping the economy running) a still new and evolving disease that kills and disables many.

It's not only a moral issue. The fact of Long Covid, leaving a significant proportion of the working age population disabled, means there will be longer term health and economic implications of the removal of all mitigations (not restrictions).

Why do you keep repeating yourself on here as if it makes a jot of difference? Go and speak to the PM, the one who makes the rules.
Rosscameasdoody · 02/02/2022 20:11

@JellyOnAPlatewithicecream

We have an effective vaccine, and the newer strains are much less harmful. Why is it hard to get your head around the fact we are in a totally different situation now than we have been in the past two years?
Because for the last bleedin’ time - vaccines are not effective for everyone and the new strains are just as harmful for someone who effectively has no immunity. YOU may be in a different situation but for those who are vulnerable it’s the same ole same ole. Look, no one is suggesting that we lock down or continue isolation - I agree that it’s just not sustainable long term. Mask wearing is not sustainable long term either - I totally agree. But there has to be something better than take off the brakes and it’s every man for himself !! The science doesn’t support what the government’s doing and I for one don’t intend to trust a government led by a proven liar to have my best interests at heart when they’ve already demonstrated quite clearly that they don't care about anyone but themselves.
Rosscameasdoody · 02/02/2022 20:13

@Againstmachine

Its interesting we have this thread where CEV are complaining about being thrown under the bus, but also a thread asking if you are CEV if you are going abroad this year.

Interesting the word selfish about wanting to return to normal still being chucked about here.

And your point is ………….?
MarshaBradyo · 02/02/2022 20:14

Ross what do you want in place and for how long?

Againstmachine · 02/02/2022 20:15

Well my point is don't be moving about protections whilst planning your holidays.

Againstmachine · 02/02/2022 20:18

534 dead in just one day from the 'less harmful' strain.

Well there is a backlog of figures added to this.

But it's similar to February 2021, it's similar to when we were mainly jabbing people in 70s not the rest of people, and we were in a lockdown .

So not sure what your point is.

MarshaBradyo · 02/02/2022 20:19

Hospitalisation is still falling which is good

Rosscameasdoody · 02/02/2022 20:21

@Againstmachine

Well my point is don't be moving about protections whilst planning your holidays.
Who’s planning holidays ? And which thread are you on ? If you think anyone who has spent the last two years fearing for their lives is planning a holiday once restrictions are lifted you’re obviously misunderstanding.
BuickMcKane · 02/02/2022 20:22

Tea only shares the information that suits her narrative. She never adds the part that says deaths are down by 1.4% and hospital admissions are down by 11.8%.

MarshaBradyo · 02/02/2022 20:24

@BuickMcKane

Tea only shares the information that suits her narrative. She never adds the part that says deaths are down by 1.4% and hospital admissions are down by 11.8%.
That is true

I read on another thread cases won’t be reported soon (Easter iirc)

Waxonwaxoff0 · 02/02/2022 20:27

@Rosscameasdoody there is a thread in this section about CEV and holidays, I think that is what the poster is referring to. Many are saying they are planning holidays.

Tealightsandd · 02/02/2022 20:29

And those are deaths within 28 days of a positive test.

You're right. Many die after 28 days. Some are in hospital for weeks and weeks before succumbing. Then there's those who die from the damage several months later. No longer testing positive for the acute stage infection so recorded as a heart attack, stroke, clotting, pneumonia, or sepsis.

Not deaths FROM covid, deaths WITH covid.

Scientific and medical expert virologists, immunologists, and others have explained that this is pretty much the same thing. Underlying conditions are very common - millions and millions of people have at least one. They were fine - plenty working full-time jobs, being parents, participating in society. It is the SARS-COV-2 infection that killed them. It might have made their underlying condition worse - which only happened because of being infected with Covid.

Anyway, it was quite widely reported just the other day, that the majority of people currently admitted to hospital with Covid are there because of Covid.

MissMaple82 · 02/02/2022 20:30

It's never been dangerous. You've got more chance of being hit by a bus

Tealightsandd · 02/02/2022 20:32

BuickMcKane posts are a good example of the motivations of the Telegraph and the ERG - why they want Boris gone.

It ain't out of concern for the general public, nor due to compassion for the huge numbers of bereaved families and Long Covid disabled.

The motivations behind the 'Boris Out' campaign are about Covid denial and minimalisaation.

The 'let the bodies' crew have won. But, note this. They won't stick around in years to come - when the true extent of the damage becomes apparent.

Like I say, there will be long term implications of Long Covid. Heath and economic.

Good luck to those who will be most affected by the lack of life, health, and economy protecting mitigations.

Covid has disproportionately affected the poor, the elderly, the disabled, and some minority ethnic groups. (Although of course, Long Covid makes everybody potentially vulnerable).

MarshaBradyo · 02/02/2022 20:35

posts are a good example of the motivations

True for some it’s about fear and only posting negative stuff

Many have gone quiet though as their predictions (which they were certain of) didn’t happen

Thankfully omicron has not been as bad as many said last November

Tealightsandd · 02/02/2022 20:35

read on another thread cases won’t be reported soon (Easter iirc)

Yep. Just in time for when they rise. Already at 534 on just one day. By Easter - with the last remaining mitigations gone - the deaths will be even higher.

Not reporting mass death (hmmmm, and people castigate the CCP?) won't change what's actually happening.

And again. Long Covid.

Tealightsandd · 02/02/2022 20:36

Transparency and an open honest democracy. Hmmm...

MarshaBradyo · 02/02/2022 20:39

I’m fine with data but yes some posters have been intent on only coming on to go on about the worst.

Like I say the most have gone since what they were certain of didn’t come to light.

By Easter it’ll likely be fewer still.