No isolation when covid positive in March

[Whathefisgoingon]

I just cannot get my head around this.

As far as I know, no other country has announced this.

For two years they’ve told us that it’s dangerous and now they’re prepared to send me to work directly next to someone infected with covid?

I had always believed it should be more socially acceptable to simply stay home when sick, as too many feel forced in to work with flu etc, but this takes the biscuit.

I understand we need to find a way to get back to some kind of normal but this seems extreme.

Will this really happen in less than 2 months!?

Simple question though. By what measure has the omicron wave been worse than predicted? Which of the myriad predictions is being used in the comparison?

@Sparklingbrook

There were other posters doing similar. But they seem to have disappeared. If anyone needs a 'group therapy session' they aren't going to find it in the Covid topic on MN.

Haha true enough, but I do think there's an important line between not group therapy and outright invention.

The first wave we would have been in a completely different position, I'm not sure CEV relative would still be with us had they caught it and DH lost a work colleague back then. Things are different now.

Yet another generalisation. Different levels of CEV have different levels of risk. Things are not different for all of us. Not advocating lockdowns or isolations as the answer but please don’t lump all CEV under the same umbrella.

[quote BuickMcKane]@Sparklingbrook we got first wave covid, and even that was mild for us. I expected it to be so for my DC, wasn't sure about myself as I'm forties but no underlying issues and apart from loss of taste and smell and a crappy headache I could have gone about my life perfectly well. My mum is 80 and wouldn't have known she had it if she hadn't needed a test to go into hospital for something!

It's anecdotal of course, but it IS a fact that this is a mild or asymptotic illness for the majority. That's more of a fact than talking about bodies piling up or cases rising when the figures show a decrease not an increase! [/quote]
Nope. Maybe you did get it mildly even in the first wave but this is not true for people who have underlying conditions.

@Rosscameasdoody

The first wave we would have been in a completely different position, I'm not sure CEV relative would still be with us had they caught it and DH lost a work colleague back then. Things are different now.

Yet another generalisation. Different levels of CEV have different levels of risk. Things are not different for all of us. Not advocating lockdowns or isolations as the answer but please don’t lump all CEV under the same umbrella.

I'm not generalising, (why the 'yet another' ??) this is my experience (and that of my relative). I'm not lumping everyone together. My relative is in the most vulnerable category and that will never change. The highest level of risk. It has been a horrible time for us as a family, but I feel things are different now for us.

@JellyOnAPlatewithicecream

We have an effective vaccine, and the newer strains are much less harmful. Why is it hard to get your head around the fact we are in a totally different situation now than we have been in the past two years?

So we abandon CEV people to their fate. Vaccines are not effective and Omcron kills if you have no immunity. Different for you maybe but not for everyone.

@Rosscameasdoody Most people are much less likely to need hospitalisation now if they catch covid than they were they at the beginning of the pandemic due to the vaccine (and Omicron being milder). Lockdowns and restrictions have never been about protecting the vunerable as asuch, they were to prevent NHS meltdown. Flu and other diseases kill lots of vunerable people each year but we didn't have isolation periods / restrictions, and covid is starting the fall into that category..

[quote JellyOnAPlatewithicecream]@Rosscameasdoody Most people are much less likely to need hospitalisation now if they catch covid than they were they at the beginning of the pandemic due to the vaccine (and Omicron being milder). Lockdowns and restrictions have never been about protecting the vunerable as asuch, they were to prevent NHS meltdown. Flu and other diseases kill lots of vunerable people each year but we didn't have isolation periods / restrictions, and covid is starting the fall into that category..[/quote]
Er, not sure what your point is here. I have said several times upthread - and actually corrected some posters under the impression that lockdowns and isolation were to protect CEV. I know they were not, they were to protect the NHS and at no point have I said anything different. And we’ve also discussed flu and the myriad other things that can affect CEV - but these are not at pandemic levels, as with Covid. They are also illnesses which generally don’t kill healthy people - unlike Covid. Anyone CEV is used mitigating these things, we have our flu vaccines and exercise caution. I”m not advocating continuing lockdowns or isolation - just making the point to various posters on this quite unpleasant thread, that for some of us it’s not as simple as off with the mask and get back to normal.

@Sparklingbrook

She said there are over 1 million people disabled with covid in the UK

What does this even mean? Disabled because they are suffering from Covid? right now? Or still suffering from the effects from when they caught it in 2020? My work colleague is just starting to get her smell and taste back from catching it back then-is she included in the disabled count?

Long Covid. Well documented.

Long Covid. Well documented

Badly documented. The definition of what long covid encompasses is far too wide to be of any help whatsoever.

@Againstmachine

Its interesting we have this thread where CEV are complaining about being thrown under the bus, but also a thread asking if you are CEV if you are going abroad this year.

Interesting the word selfish about wanting to return to normal still being chucked about here.

I think for that point to be valid you would have to show that CEV people who are complaining about being thrown under the bus, are the same ones planning holidays.

@Wednesdayafternoon

Will this actually happen though? Or are the suggesting it now to make Boris look like the good guy and then in March he will blame a new varient for his reason to withdraw it!

Don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth anymore!

Yes, it will happen. Because the legislation necessary to introduce Covid measures into law in the first place will expire in March.

@Rosscameasdoody
We are in agreement that it makes sense to not continue isolation / lockdowns now that the NHS isn't under as much risk of meltdown now then!

The original poster said she couldn't get her head round it the fact that the government has been saying for years that it's dangerous but now is stopping isolation - my point is that yes but now it is a lot yes dangerous for most people, because of the vaccine and the new strains being less harmful.

I feel for people that will still be restricted because of various reasons such as being CEV, in the same way I feel for people with other disabilities.

@Tealightsandd

Letting the bodies pile up or become disabled is an ableist, ageist, and racist policy (and it is systemic racism - and let's not forget all the research indicating an increased risk for certain groups, potentially genetic - even after taking into account vaccine take up).

It's also going to disable a significant minority of the population. Which, as well as individual devastation, will impact heavily on the NHS and the longer term economy.

It isn't disabling a significant minority of the population though.

The bodies are not piling up are they.

HTH?