[quote Emergency73]@VikingOnTheFridge
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No - I’m not ‘done’ with Covid.
There was a comment earlier about “ring fence the vulnerable” which made me recoil. I then looked at another thread which had a similar theme, or was dismissing the vulnerable and there was a link to this:
People with pre-existing conditions are real people. Their lives matter. They are your parents, your grandparents, your friends, your children. Very possibly you.
If you are seriously making the argument that only 17,371 people have really died from COVID then you are saying that the ~140,000 people who died with pre-existing conditions were expendible and didn't matter.
I hope it's obvious that that is an utterly repulsive and morally indefensible position.
Don't even think about trying to make that argument to me.
It’s just hideous that people are so dismissive of the vulnerable. What kind of society are you looking for - a world that is full only if the ‘hearty henchmen” that were mentioned on another thread?
It is only on these Mumsnet threads that I hear these sort of appalling suggestions or perhaps if I tried to read the manifesto of an extreme political party.
We work together as a society, those vulnerable to Covid are NOT just expendable. They are loved, have loved ones, are part of families.
We appear to have forgotten about the gift of being alive - to have conscious thought, to experience life, to think, feel, to care, to love. It IS a repulsive idea to suggest that some are more ‘worthy’ of this gift than others - and to keep pushing for a course of events that could have resulted in many millions more dying, and losing that gift worldwide.[/quote]
Ah. But those of us vulnerable to mental health issues who have been denied face to face appropriate care, told to be more resilient, failed by mental health services, and basically told we aren't making enough effort to take care of the vulnerable? Abused for being selfish when we point out how we struggled?
That's perfectly OK. Gotcha.
Also, countless vulnerable children who have been abandoned to abusive parents at home because schools and social services shut down? That's absolutely fine and couldn't possibly have been predicted at all. Women and children forced into their homes with abusers A O FUCKING K.
That's all fine because we are protecting those who YOU deem vulnerable.
And then those missed cancer diagnoses, limited maternity services leading to women giving birth alone, people denied the ability to see their parents, siblings and even a child in once case while they died in hospital? Care home residents left to deteriorate without visits?
That's all just fucking fine.