Anyone else done now?

[VeryMuchSo13]

Know I'll get slated but I'm so past caring.

Anyone else just completely done with it now? Ran out of LFTs ages ago and I'll never do another again, wouldn't even go for a PCR now with symptoms tbh. I'd stay in until I felt better like I do with everything else and then crack on.

The only reason I wear masks in shops is because of people moaning if you don't. As soon as it's no longer required that'll be in the bin.

I actually took it really seriously the past two years and did everything we were supposed to. Triple jabbed etc etc... But I can't be arsed giving it anymore headspace now. I'm sick of hearing about it, sick of seeing it on the news, sick of people talking about it.

From today on I highly doubt I'll ever voluntarily think about Covid again, in a way that restricts anything I do anyway.

@Allhallowseve yep, I had DC poorly at home too (it started when toddler caught it from a trip to the GP!) and we all got it. The last thing I needed was to be harassed multiple times a day!

@Whitefire that's horrible, honestly all common sense seemed to just fly out of the window when it comes to T&T

I dunno why they're still clinging on at this point.

@KurtWilde ridiculous now when I think about it ! But felt I had to comply ! Wouldn't do it now . . No way 4 x phone calls a day at least to see who had symptoms .

@Allhallowseve no me neither. I'd block the calls first time instead of putting up with it for days!

Been done for a long time. My whole household just had covid, I had symptoms and didn't do a test. Got on with my life completely... still left the house, whoever wants to be protected, is jabbed... so crack on.
Life goes on, and covid is not going away.
I've worn a mask once as I had a big cold sore and thought it was a perfect cover :).

@Againstmachine

So much BS about everyone having sacrificed things 'for the vulnerable'. Keep telling yourself that if you like, but the sacrifices were to avoid nightmare scenarios of people dying in hospital car parks and at home from preventable causes of all kinds due to hospitals filling up with covid patients. We made sacrifices for ourselves too, because a fast spreading disease that needs a lot of medical care threatens how society functions, even for people who don't get the illness badly themselves.

So what you are saying next time round sod the vunerable as we don't care apparently. Ok fair enough then.

Something like a lockdown was only ever going to happen to avoid an outcome that a government could see would be even more catastrophic than lockdown, and the brutal truth is that a few tens of thousands of us dying as predicted at first wouldn’t really count as that from a government’s point of view. What counts for a government (any government) is people needing medical treatment in such numbers that hospitals grind to a halt, and so many people being off work sick (even if they get better) that the normal functioning of society also grinds to a halt.

Governments also tend not to like to hear horror stories of middle-aged, not all that vulnerable, people, ill and dying at home, who would have been fine if they could just have got a place in a hospital and a bit of oxygen for a few days. That’s the sort of thing you’d get if systems were overwhelmed, even if the individual risk for lots of people isn’t that high.

Right from the very start, before covid even got going in the UK, it was the hospitalisation rate reported from other countries that was one of the most worrying things about it, rather than the death rate. It was obvious that, if millions of us had got sick at once at a peak of infections and 10% of us needed hospital care, we couldn’t all have got that care (even with the best funded health system in the world). It's not so much that we've been protecting the vulnerable, as we've been protecting hospitals from the vulnerable.

So no, I don’t think protecting vulnerable people for their own sake (rather than as a means to an end) was ever the main thing we were doing. It is great that high levels of infection don’t pose the same dangers to how hospitals and society function now, so as a society we don’t need anything as extreme as a lockdown any more. Coincidentally (not!), the people most vulnerable to covid are now on their own, which I think demonstrates that it was never mainly about them.

I really don't like the attitude that says “sorry not sorry, we’ve sacrificed enough for you vulnerable people now, you really can’t expect us to do any more now”. The people most vulnerable to covid are now in a really stressful situation, and on top of that people are blaming them for every covid restriction we ever had? That’s neither fair nor accurate, and hugely underestimates how bad things could have got for all of us without drastic measures.

@curiousmum3 would you mix with people if you had flu or norovirus, send DC into school within 48 hours of D&V?

@toomuchlaundry

Don't bother. Some people think they know better than medical and scientific experts (and most of the rest of the world).

All you can do - if you want to protect yourself, and have basic courtesy and decency towards the more vulnerable (including considering their psychological wellbeing), is take the easy and simple mitigations that enable people to genuinely live with a still new, potentially lab originated virus that kills and disables many. Masks and good ventilation. And accept that the UK particularly England isn't a civic minded or sensible country.

This might be of interest to you, if you want some (long) bedtime reading.

Exceptionalism at the Time of covid-19: Where Nationalism Meets Irrationality

brill.com/view/journals/dyp/aop/article-10.1163-24689300-bja10025/article-10.1163-24689300-bja10025.xml

[quote Tealightsandd]@toomuchlaundry

Don't bother. Some people think they know better than medical and scientific experts (and most of the rest of the world).

All you can do - if you want to protect yourself, and have basic courtesy and decency towards the more vulnerable (including considering their psychological wellbeing), is take the easy and simple mitigations that enable people to genuinely live with a still new, potentially lab originated virus that kills and disables many. Masks and good ventilation. And accept that the UK particularly England isn't a civic minded or sensible country.

This might be of interest to you, if you want some (long) bedtime reading.

Exceptionalism at the Time of covid-19: Where Nationalism Meets Irrationality

brill.com/view/journals/dyp/aop/article-10.1163-24689300-bja10025/article-10.1163-24689300-bja10025.xml[/quote]
Well said, @tealightsandd and @mintfuschia, for your voices of reason and compassion in an otherwise horrible thread, which is depressing to read. Thank you

@TheKeatingFive

Japan has been an outlier with regards to deaths from the start. I hope we eventually get to the bottom of why.

Obesity rates:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listoffcountriesbyyobesity_rate

Out of 191 countries on the table Japan is ranked nearly at the bottom at 185 with only 4.3% of the population obese compared to 36% in the US and 29% in the UK.

From today on I highly doubt I'll ever voluntarily think about Covid again, in a way that restricts anything I do anyway.

Yet a day later you are still posting on a COVID board.

@BonnesVacances

Finally caught up with thread after PP. Guess I am another one eho brought this and it is totally acceptable as it has already been covered.
I'll shut up than.

Thank you @TheRainbow

Nice to end the night on a more pleasant note. Goodnight

@Tealightsandd

Thank you *@TheRainbow*

Nice to end the night on a more pleasant note. Goodnight

Definitely, goodnight

Just three days left before the mass disposal of masks on Wednesday evening!

Thanks from me too. Remember this is an extreme thread, the total other end of the spectrum from those who wanted continual lockdowns forever (although never actually came across anyone who did want perpetual lockdown, but saw posters advocating for any health measures at all accused of this).

@curiousmum3

Been done for a long time. My whole household just had covid, I had symptoms and didn't do a test. Got on with my life completely... still left the house, whoever wants to be protected, is jabbed... so crack on. Life goes on, and covid is not going away. I've worn a mask once as I had a big cold sore and thought it was a perfect cover :).

"Covid is not going away ..."

Maybe one of the reasons would be people like you?

So, so, so done. Have been for a while. Sharing this at the risk of being bombarded - I am not jabbed due to a recent pregnancy, and I had Covid at 28 weeks pregnant. Felt awful for a day or two but my (thankfully okay) immune system fought it off. I didn't report it. I did the sensible thing and isolated for two weeks anyway. I haven't worn a mask once in public since this recent "legal requirement" was reinstated around Christmas. Can not wait for this week.

And yes, there has been a definite shift in how the UK media is reporting it.

@PandorasBex nonsense. Covid will never go away unless every single person on the planet stays indoors for 2 weeks. Unfeasible.

[quote Waxonwaxoff0]@PandorasBex nonsense. Covid will never go away unless every single person on the planet stays indoors for 2 weeks. Unfeasible.[/quote]

It went over your head, then, Wax? Unsurprising.

Covid will never go away unless every single person on the planet stays indoors for 2 weeks.

There was a thread about this. It's probably closer to 8 weeks. Plus what do we do about animal reserves of the illness?

It went over your head, then, Wax? Unsurprising.

What did you mean by it then?

@1dayatatime

Obesity isn't the primary reason for death. Age is far, far more important, and Japan had a very aged population comparatively.

@PandorasBex

It went over your head, then, Wax? Unsurprising.

Well your point seems to have gone over my head too... What is it exactly?