How can they still say nothing?

[Purplegurple]

So numbers today over 183,000. How can BoJo and his cronies still be making no statement? No clear guidance, nothing. I'm not wanting lockdown or anything but can't believe they're so quiet over all this.

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@Jourdain11 maybe dont tell others what their medical risks are when you know nothing about them?[/quote]
Maybe don't assume that I know nothing about it, either?

Anyway I dont know why I bother talking about cev people like me who work, I learned a long time ago that few people give a shit. Just like most people don't care about cev children either.

Die quietly, I expect. Or board themselves into their houses.

This is a curious statement,

Firstly, you’ve been vaccinated so the risk of death is tiny

Secondly, you are asking for more restrictions (lockdowns included) yet moan if people say you are free to stay in. It seems to me your attitude is if I have to do it then everyone else should, even if they are perfectly fine with the risk. It strikes me as a bit selfish

@Tealightsandd 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Astonishing that it needs to be said really, but well done for doing so so clearly.

@MyrtlethePurpleTurtle It makes total sense to report ICU rather than hospital admissions. Omicron is milder, and the percentage of people in hospital with Omicron who need intensive care is far lower than it was for Delta.

Admittedly it should probably always have been ICU rather than hospital admissions that should have been reported.

@hamstersarse true for some cev people and not for others. But well done for knowing better than peoples own Drs.

We've got a window to get on top of this situation as your booster wanes significantly by 10 weeks.

I agree with many previous posters, especially @SheikhMaraca .

Us CEV should isolate ourselves away from our kids and spouses, and give up our jobs. That would be the responsible course.

I'm going to shut myself in he cupboard under the stairs from tomorrow, and give up my job.

DH can leave the odd plate of food outside the door.

Anything else would be selfish, and I would deserve to be dangerously Ill.

@RoyalFamilyFan

Anyway I dont know why I bother talking about cev people like me who work, I learned a long time ago that few people give a shit. Just like most people don't care about cev children either.

Well very few people seem to give a shit about the livelihoods of people whose businesses closed due to the lockdowns, even though covid was zero risk to them personally.

Yet some CEV seem to be up in arms at being faced with unemployment through a (difficult) choice, and would rather the whole country went back under restrictions (and therefore more business closures!) than they personally had to switch jobs. 🤷🏼‍♀️

@Doris86 Curious. So first cases dont matter, only hospitalisations. Now its only ICU admissions. What next? Those in hospital for over a week?

@Zeebrazebra my healthcare will be what? Locked down? Or subject to restrictions?

And I would say in your view, I will wait to see how it pans out. Pretty much like the preposterous model of 500 deaths a day by Saturday.

@Wizzbangfizz

I'm not prepared to hunker down until the mythical vaccine/cure. Moving to endemic status will be the route out and I for one won't be restricted in perpetuity. It is at the stage now where the cure is worse than the disease.

Absolutely true. The measures put in place to mitigate Covid are now far more damaging than Covid itself.

@MilesJuppIsMyBitch but it isn’t selfish to expect restrictions and therefore other people’s unemployment through business loss, in order to protect you?

Because I think on a balance it’s fairer for the person gaining the benefit to be unemployed as a result.

Go on and flame me, I don’t care.

@Lifeisnteasy Yes of course no cev people are affected by that as well.
Oh no my DP is self-employed and his business looks like it is going down the pan.

The way this pandemic has been handled has been terrible for business and for cev people.

Separate from jobs, which is a difficult balancing act in a pandemic, why are no fault evictions being allowed to go ahead?

Why no protection for CEV and CV private tenants? Economy/livelihoods no excuse here. I'm talking no fault evictions. Separately with rent arrears, there's an at least partial solution. Housing benefit rates to be unfrozen so tenants can afford rent. And in cases of deliberate lack of payment (rather than no money), deduct rent directly from DWP or employer, same as child support payments.

But anyway perhaps many here don't care about the plight of vulnerable tenants, but don't claim that everybody who is vulnerable can make decisions to protect themselves from Covid.

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@Lifeisnteasy Yes of course no cev people are affected by that as well.
Oh no my DP is self-employed and his business looks like it is going down the pan.

The way this pandemic has been handled has been terrible for business and for cev people.[/quote]
But the counterbalance is that you get the health benefit.

For people to whom covid poses no risk, they’ve lost everything for other people with no gain to themselves. And perhaps if they had shielded and there hadn’t been country-wide restrictions, their businesses could’ve kept running in some cases through healthy members of staff.

@hamstersarse

Die quietly, I expect. Or board themselves into their houses.

This is a curious statement,

Firstly, you’ve been vaccinated so the risk of death is tiny

Secondly, you are asking for more restrictions (lockdowns included) yet moan if people say you are free to stay in. It seems to me your attitude is if I have to do it then everyone else should, even if they are perfectly fine with the risk. It strikes me as a bit selfish

I find it sad that people feel so bitter.

I am "CEV", for what it's worth, although the term isn't in use any longer. I had AML and have various issues as a result of the illness and its treatment. I consider myself actually quite fortunate to be here and in good health! There are things I can control, such as monitoring my own health, eating well, getting enough sleep, avoiding unnecessary infection risks. And there are things I cannot control - such as Covie rates, other people's behaviour, what my kids may pick up at school. How can I expect the whole world to change for me? Of course I can't, and I shouldn't. Likewise, if I want to continue in my present role, I accept that I have to go into my workplace to do it. If that becomes, at some point, a risk I don't wish to continue taking, the responsibility to find an alternative role is mine.

It's just the way I feel and I don't say it is right or wrong. But I do understand what "risk" is.

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@Lifeisnteasy Yes of course no cev people are affected by that as well.
Oh no my DP is self-employed and his business looks like it is going down the pan.

The way this pandemic has been handled has been terrible for business and for cev people.[/quote]
How are you suggesting omicron is dealt with?

We’ll be exposed to it going by German Health Minister remark, and that was delta

How do you manage to stop that being the case.. or do you just want to ‘flatten the curve’

Are you missing his updates to call him things and say is all waffle? 🙄 There have been updates in the news and confirmation thst there won’t be lockdown for NYE.

The measures put in place to mitigate Covid are now far more damaging than Covid itself.

Clearly not true, but if you wish to cling to your ill informed denial, I recommend a move to England. I assume you're elsewhere because England barely has any mitigations. Very belated mask mandate recently brought back but half-heartedly enforced to say the least. That aside, unlike most other countries worldwide, nothing. No vaccine passes, no HEPA filters, not even (despite pleas from several leading doctors) FFP3 masks as standard for health and social care staff.

Because they think it's mild and although the hospital threshold has been breached as not all admissions will be because of covid their ignoring them.
What would be a better statistic to use would be average excess hospital admissions for this time of year.

They're

Also accept that I have a warped perspective due to "becoming" CEV during Covid rather than before, and also having had Covid with only about 2 days illness (opposed to 2 weeks in hospital from a different respiratory virus). That just brought it home to me that any German can be dangerous and I don't really feel like shutting myself away in order to avoid them all. I also understand that if someone has a specific respiratory vulnerability or a sensitivity to respiratory illnesses, it's obviously a different situation.

Hospitals are packed too. I feel so sorry for the Nhs staff. They are fantastic. I was in A&E last night for 5 hours with covid related issues. I was so well looked after but it’s incredibly busy.

any German can be dangerous = any germ

Ffs autocorrect!!