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Work sending messages pleading for help

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whenwillthemadnessend · 27/12/2021 09:41

My work has sent out an email this morning pleading for help today. I expect it will be
Like this for a few weeks now.

It's not an essential service likely but if my Work is doing it how are the essential services going to cope

This is why I think we will
End up with some restrictions soon.

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BluebellsGreenbells · 27/12/2021 13:51

I'm massively surprised they've not done this already. Specifically for primary school children

Parents aren’t testing children so they come to school clearly ill, if not Covid then something like it and spreading it to other families.

People are only out for themselves and yes to pisstakers. They’ve stopped PCR tests and the 24 isolation until results come in here, it’s positive LFT only now, negative LFT is a return to work. X2 in 24 hours.

7 days LFT for close contacts but schools aren’t allowed to tell parents if their kids are close contacts and they don’t test anyway!

I think Boris will follow this lead.

SheikhMaraca · 27/12/2021 13:51

So you never needed to go into hopsital for treatment then, if you think you can fully isolate yourself as a cancer patient?

Yes, but that’s a risk that I would have had to take.

I, and I alone am responsible for my own health. I can’t expect others to shut down society just to protect me. I’m just one person, and closer to the end of my life than the beginning.

I could never expect my DC and GDC’s generation to sacrifice the whole of their futures just so I can avoid a virus.

I think people forget that the cost of lockdown is now over £500 billion, how can I expect my own descendants to take on such a colossal sum of debt just to potentially buy me a few more years?

Who actually thinks like that?

SheikhMaraca · 27/12/2021 13:53

@Houseplantmad

"My school only got through the last week of term by doing this. We couldn't get enough supply staff but a few PT staff did some extra days. We also didn't have enough lunch time staff so teachers covered lunch duties. Can't see much changing in January."

Mine too. The Head, who does break duty anyway, was one of four SLT who had to help run the kitchen and serve food to the children as the kitchen staff went down with Covid one by one. We had doubled up GCSE classes, lecture style, in the hall due to so many teaching staff being off. I hope it's better in the New Year but I can't see it somehow.

They were only off work because of government policy.

We can’t continue to blame a virus for this, it’s a choice made by our politicians because they are scared of the hysteria of the public.

Houseplantmad · 27/12/2021 13:53

DS has just told me of two friends who are positive and symptomatic but whose parents knowingly allowed them to return from uni by train rather than collecting them or getting them to isolate. One has been out and about at the pub every night since getting home. I despair!

FuzzyPuffling · 27/12/2021 13:55

[quote Autumndays123]@FuzzyPuffling still waiting for your alternative?[/quote]
Make all those who promote "othering" for CEV people shield instead.

BluebellsGreenbells · 27/12/2021 13:57

They were only off work because of government policy.

We can’t continue to blame a virus for this, it’s a choice made by our politicians because they are scared of the hysteria of the public.

No they are off work because schools aren’t safe, there’s no mitigations, parents won’t test and want the kids in schools to spread Covid - probably because they won’t be paid on crap contracts approved by government.

If people were paid by their company to be off work the spread would slow down.

Autumndays123 · 27/12/2021 14:01

@FuzzyPuffling you must be trolling. You think those who are vulnerable should carry on as normal and everyone else shield? 🤯 You can't possibly think like that? Jesus, it scares me that people with this mind frame walk among us

Blubells · 27/12/2021 14:03

My school only got through the last week of term by doing this. We couldn't get enough supply staff but a few PT staff did some extra days. We also didn't have enough lunch time staff so teachers covered lunch duties. Can't see much changing in January.

How many of the absences were due to being too ill to work? And how many staff and children were well enough to come to school but were stuck at home for 7 days due to Government policy?

I've heard of several people isolating at home (and getting sick pay) while they have hardly any or no symptoms l.

SheikhMaraca · 27/12/2021 14:04

@Houseplantmad

DS has just told me of two friends who are positive and symptomatic but whose parents knowingly allowed them to return from uni by train rather than collecting them or getting them to isolate. One has been out and about at the pub every night since getting home. I despair!
And?

I repeat, 14 deaths so far from omicron.

Why shouldn’t they just carry on as normal?

Blubells · 27/12/2021 14:05

If people were paid by their company to be off work the spread would slow down.

Slowed down and just prolong this wave... and extend the period of paid absences??

WonderfulYou · 27/12/2021 14:07

@SheikhMaraca where did you get the number 14 from?

SheikhMaraca · 27/12/2021 14:09

The information is in the public domain

Reuters are reporting it, but there are plenty of other sources if you look.

DopesickSis · 27/12/2021 14:10

@LumosSolem

The sad truth is that most people don’t care about people with cancer or other serious illnesses, unless it affects them personally.

This is such a fucking horrible comment. You really think people don't care about people with cancer and other serious illnesses? I'm so sick of comments like this continually being spewed out as nasty snide digs at those who want some balance and who are realistic to the fact that society cannot continue facing restrictions and lockdowns forevermore.

You mean you don't like someone pointing out the truth.

I'm fucking sick of all the ableism when the 'live with it' and 'it's a cold' idiots start spewing their nonsense.

If you had a CEV DH or a sick child or a mum undergoing chemo your opinion would be very different.

At least be honest about your nasty views.

FourTeaFallOut · 27/12/2021 14:13

*If you had a CEV DH or a sick child or a mum undergoing chemo your opinion would be very different.

At least be honest about your nasty views.*

I have a cev. My views aren't too different. My views are pragmatic.

WonderfulYou · 27/12/2021 14:13

The information is in the public domain

Reuters are reporting it, but there are plenty of other sources if you look.

Ok I was just wondering why you kept saying 14 when that’s lower than the actual number but I can see that you’re reading stats from a couple of weeks ago.

It’s not the number of deaths that is the issue though - it would be a bit ridiculous to wait until a certain amount of people died before we took any action.

The issue is the increasing number of cases, which may lead to hospitalisations and may least to deaths.

SheikhMaraca · 27/12/2021 14:13

Nope, admiddedly I’m more than 5 years in remission, but I would still have felt this way had I been receiving treatment in the pandemic.

DopesickSis · 27/12/2021 14:14

@Beautiful3

For most people, it's a cold variant. Most people I know had it, said it was just a cold, or displayed zero symptoms. Only two people I know, were hospitalised, because they had poor health conditions. The vunerable should shield, and the rest carry on as normal.

You do realise that a sample of people you know is not scientifically significant?

Good, let's ignore that then.

nettie68 · 27/12/2021 14:15

@SheikhMaraca

The information is in the public domain

Reuters are reporting it, but there are plenty of other sources if you look.

That's from the 22nd December so five days ago so they could well be many more now.
WonderfulYou · 27/12/2021 14:15

If you look at the numbers on the graph it’s easy to see why some people are saying let’s be proactive and not get to a situation like at the beginning where we were locked down for months and couldn’t see family or friends or have any sort of normality.

Work sending messages pleading for help
SheikhMaraca · 27/12/2021 14:16

but I can see that you’re reading stats from a couple of weeks ago

5 days actually, and do you have a source for your purported actual number?

I’m happy to stand corrected, but unless is translates to a CFR north of 50 or so percent, then it’s still not worth the mass hysteria.

Autumndays123 · 27/12/2021 14:16

@DopesickSis another person coming along to tell us all how horrible we are without a single suggestion as how to save everyone from covid

SheikhMaraca · 27/12/2021 14:17

That’s from the 22nd December so five days ago so they could well be many more now

Source?

Coconut49 · 27/12/2021 14:19

@LumosSolem

The sad truth is that most people don’t care about people with cancer or other serious illnesses, unless it affects them personally.

This is such a fucking horrible comment. You really think people don't care about people with cancer and other serious illnesses? I'm so sick of comments like this continually being spewed out as nasty snide digs at those who want some balance and who are realistic to the fact that society cannot continue facing restrictions and lockdowns forevermore.

Agree totally @LumosSolem I'm really fed up with this ridiculous attempt to make people feel guilty for wanting to live their lives normally. If I had cancer or some other immune problem, I wouldn't expect everyone to put their lives on hold for me. If Omicron is now thought to be mild and like a cold, I don't see why we can't go back to normal and stay in if you feel ill but carry on as normal if you feel well enough to. Otherwise we will have to bring in isolation for other mild viruses, of which there are many!! The isolation period is harming the NHS not an overload of patients in beds.
RoyalFamilyFan · 27/12/2021 14:20

In amongst all the talk of kids, children who are disabled and vulnerable themselves, or kids with vulnerable parents are pretty much ignored. I saw an interview with a teacher who mentioned a child in their class who had lost both parents to covid. For some children covid is having an enormous impact on their lives that will never go away.

JohnSmithDrive · 27/12/2021 14:21

If you had a CEV DH or a sick child or a mum undergoing chemo your opinion would be very different.

I'd be even more worried about the NHS not being able to care for them properly because of well people isolating.

There's no perfect solution, but we can't carry on like this indefinitely. For a start businesses need to be able to trade so government can pay for the chemo!

And FWIW I did have a DH with cancer all through the first two lockdowns. It was appalling, he never met his consultant who told him he was dying because the doctor himself was shielding. He got that news alone, by telephone, in hospital without so much as a hand to hold because of the no visitor rule. I still can't quite believe that "we" as a society accepted that.